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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2020 10:10:22 GMT
We’ve been battered this season haven’t we
Allen, Shawcross, Maclean and to a lesser extent Verlinden who I’m sure was about to make his name
Any other clubs suffered like us?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2020 10:14:09 GMT
Spurs?
Reading have 4 out for this weekend's game - don't know how good they are though.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 11, 2020 10:14:50 GMT
Hull?
Although part of their problem is self inflicted.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2020 10:19:45 GMT
I don't think Verlinden can be classed as a senior player or Allen's absence of 9 games as really long term. McClean will probably be back next week which leaves us with Ryan who undoubtedly qualifies as both senior and long term. I don't think our injury record this season has been that dreadful.
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2020 10:20:59 GMT
I’m on about long term not run of the mill niggles
For those old enough this stuff cost us the title back in 74/75
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 11, 2020 10:23:37 GMT
I’m on about long term not run of the mill niggles For those old enough this stuff cost us the title back in 74/75 Good planning by the board then in not pushing for the title this season. |
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Post by neddy on Mar 11, 2020 10:25:06 GMT
I’m on about long term not run of the mill niggles For those old enough this stuff cost us the title back in 74/75 The broken legs season! |
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2020 10:25:42 GMT
I’m on about long term not run of the mill niggles For those old enough this stuff cost us the title back in 74/75 If you are going back that far I am sure there are loads of examples. One that comes to mind in 1985/6 when Everton lost Neville Southall, best keeper in the league at the time, to be replaced by the vastly inferior Bobby Mimms. Not only did Everton end up winning nothing but to rub salt into the wounds they were both overtaken in the league and beaten in the cup final by Liverpool. |
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Post by Gods on Mar 11, 2020 10:36:26 GMT
I don't think Verlinden can be classed as a senior player or Allen's absence of 9 games as really long term. McClean will probably be back next week which leaves us with Ryan who undoubtedly qualifies as both senior and long term. I don't think our injury record this season has been that dreadful. I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. |
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Post by Afrojack on Mar 11, 2020 10:43:05 GMT
I don't think Verlinden can be classed as a senior player or Allen's absence of 9 games as really long term. McClean will probably be back next week which leaves us with Ryan who undoubtedly qualifies as both senior and long term. I don't think our injury record this season has been that dreadful. I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. Hudson-Odoi did his last April and was back playing in October (6 months) yeah he had age on his side but its certainly not uncommon to come back well within 12 months |
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 11, 2020 10:43:34 GMT
I don't think Verlinden can be classed as a senior player or Allen's absence of 9 games as really long term. McClean will probably be back next week which leaves us with Ryan who undoubtedly qualifies as both senior and long term. I don't think our injury record this season has been that dreadful. I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. He'll be virtually out of contract by then wont he ? |
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2020 10:43:59 GMT
I’m on about long term not run of the mill niggles For those old enough this stuff cost us the title back in 74/75 If you are going back that far I am sure there are loads of examples. One that comes to mind in 1985/6 when Everton lost Neville Southall, best keeper in the league at the time, to be replaced by the vastly inferior Bobby Mimms. Not only did Everton end up winning nothing but to rub salt into the wounds they were both overtaken in the league and beaten in the cup final by Liverpool. That’s one player Not a bundle of major players at a club |
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2020 10:51:58 GMT
If you are going back that far I am sure there are loads of examples. One that comes to mind in 1985/6 when Everton lost Neville Southall, best keeper in the league at the time, to be replaced by the vastly inferior Bobby Mimms. Not only did Everton end up winning nothing but to rub salt into the wounds they were both overtaken in the league and beaten in the cup final by Liverpool. That’s one player Not a bundle of major players at a club It had as big an impact as any injury I can recall, Mimms was pretty dreadful and the loss of Southall undoubtedly cost Everton the League which they won in both the previous and following seasons. In a one off final you never know what would have happened but can you imagine the feeling of being pipped to both legs of a double by your bitterest rivals. |
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Post by Veritas on Mar 11, 2020 10:53:57 GMT
I don't think Verlinden can be classed as a senior player or Allen's absence of 9 games as really long term. McClean will probably be back next week which leaves us with Ryan who undoubtedly qualifies as both senior and long term. I don't think our injury record this season has been that dreadful. I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. I fear you may be correct I suppose we will know a bit more once we get a post surgery prognosis. We can only hope for the best concerning next season. |
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 11, 2020 11:26:23 GMT
I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. He'll be virtually out of contract by then wont he ? I assume that this will have a negative effect on our FFP position as any potential big money move is now negated and he will be here for some time to come whilst his recovery is managed. Not a good situation for player or club. |
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Post by Gods on Mar 11, 2020 12:04:51 GMT
I think Allen will be out for most of next season too. I've not known anyone get back, I mean really get back, from a ruptured achillies in less than 12 months. Hudson-Odoi did his last April and was back playing in October (6 months) yeah he had age on his side but its certainly not uncommon to come back well within 12 months Be November on that basis wouldn't it? I wonder if that is exceptional, it's a common squash players injury and I've seen at least a dozen down the years, and I've not known anyone properly back in less than 12 months. Scenario is the same every time, push off, achillies snaps with a loud crack, you swear your opponent has hit you but they haven't, 2 hours in denial then off to A&E for confirmation. Admittedly they are not pro athletes, just my pals who play squash, but if anything surely pros would need a higher level of recovery and there is nothing in their innate make up to help them recover faster. You can have all the physio in the world but in the end your foot is stuck in a boot at a strange angle while your achillies knots back together again And then you start walking, gingerly at first, force it and it resets too long and you have to sever it and start again! |
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