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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 8, 2020 22:15:32 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 8, 2020 22:32:35 GMT
Excellent piece. But we knew it anyway 😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 22:43:49 GMT
And he managed it all "part time" Sheiky won't like this at all.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 8, 2020 23:02:46 GMT
That's a good read. Gouranga.  |
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Post by The man from Utch on Mar 9, 2020 0:37:27 GMT
Great article. I'm a believer.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 9, 2020 4:35:27 GMT
The bit at the end is good. It’s such a relief to be looking upwards after the last four years of shyte. As long as we stay up of course.
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Post by senex on Mar 9, 2020 5:40:25 GMT
Hmm. Very positive, and I would like to believe that we can continue our progress, but I shan‘t be happy until we are mathematically safe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 7:48:32 GMT
I think we will be pushing for promotion next year regardless of what division we find ourselves in. It makes staying up even more important, if that's even possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 8:01:00 GMT
And he managed it all "part time" The test of that is still to come. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2020 9:13:09 GMT
The striker position is indeed a conundrum……. just hoping we can find another Steino for next season……
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 9, 2020 9:31:43 GMT
And he managed it all "part time" Sheiky won't like this at all. Is he carrying in after March? Do you know? We were told that was it but now it's not so clear. Paint it how you want to, it's a pathetic way to run a football club. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 9:33:45 GMT
And he managed it all "part time" Sheiky won't like this at all. Is he carrying in after March? Do you know? We were told that wasn't it but now it's not so clear. Paint it how you want to, it's a pathetic way to run a football club. You didn't need to rise to that one Sheikh. Anyone with half an eye and even less of a brain cell knows it isn't the right way to run a club, regardless of how it pans out. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 10:38:47 GMT
The celebration is a little premature. For sure O'Neill has done very well, but any half decent manager would improve us after Jones.
We could still go down. It doesn't look that way after a 5-1 win, but it was Hull we defeated, not Reading or Boro. If we lose both those games, we could be back in trouble. If we do go down, no matter how good O*Neill has done according to Sporting Life, he will still have failed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 20:38:34 GMT
MoN ...
"I think supporters want to see a team that is set up in a positive way and approaches the game in a positive way. That’s the message that we’ve hammered home to the players."
The guy is the anti - NJ
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 10, 2020 9:32:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 9:35:11 GMT
I wouldn’t say the ground is rocking?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 10, 2020 10:04:41 GMT
I wouldn’t say the ground is rocking? Agreed - that's poetic licence - but the rest of the article is pretty accurate. Interesting that he mentions that issues between the fans and the club owners/admin have not yet been resolved. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 10:19:15 GMT
I wouldn’t say the ground is rocking? Agreed - that's poetic licence - but the rest of the article is pretty accurate. Interesting that he mentions that issues between the fans and the club owners/admin have not yet been resolved. I think most people are becoming more indifferent towards the board, probably due to accepting they’re not going anywhere anytime soon. |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Mar 10, 2020 10:47:31 GMT
Great article. Too positive for on here though.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 10, 2020 11:38:39 GMT
The celebration is a little premature. For sure O'Neill has done very well, but any half decent manager would improve us after Jones. We could still go down. It doesn't look that way after a 5-1 win, but it was Hull we defeated, not Reading or Boro. If we lose both those games, we could be back in trouble. If we do go down, no matter how good O*Neill has done according to Sporting Life, he will still have failed. What "celebration" is this? Being optimistic is one thing and celebrating is something else entirely. The stats since MON joined is suggest it is perfectly realistic to have optimism. Any celebration will (rightly) be contingent upon survival being confirmed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 13:37:09 GMT
The celebration is a little premature. For sure O'Neill has done very well, but any half decent manager would improve us after Jones. We could still go down. It doesn't look that way after a 5-1 win, but it was Hull we defeated, not Reading or Boro. If we lose both those games, we could be back in trouble. If we do go down, no matter how good O*Neill has done according to Sporting Life, he will still have failed. What "celebration" is this? Being optimistic is one thing and celebrating is something else entirely. The stats since MON joined is suggest it is perfectly realistic to have optimism. Any celebration will (rightly) be contingent upon survival being confirmed. Read the article. I don't question that O'Neill has done well at all, but he has also overseen some dreadful results, and the simple facts are that we are only three points above a relegation spot. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2020 17:13:34 GMT
What "celebration" is this? Being optimistic is one thing and celebrating is something else entirely. The stats since MON joined is suggest it is perfectly realistic to have optimism. Any celebration will (rightly) be contingent upon survival being confirmed. Read the article. I don't question that O'Neill has done well at all, but he has also overseen some dreadful results, and the simple facts are that we are only three points above a relegation spot. I repeat "what celebration?" Stokies are celebrating the win - as they are entitled to do - we don't score 5 very often. But I haven't seen many, if any, Stokies celebrating being saved from relegation or being dead certs for survival. After Saturday no one thinks survival is cut and dried - but plenty are (reasonably) more optimistic than they were. Since the turn of the year we have the second best points record in the division - that's a perfectly good reason to be optimistic - most fans agree that celebrations will have to wait until survival is assured - if it is assured. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 19:22:07 GMT
Read the article. I don't question that O'Neill has done well at all, but he has also overseen some dreadful results, and the simple facts are that we are only three points above a relegation spot. I repeat "what celebration?" Stokies are celebrating the win - as they are entitled to do - we don't score 5 very often. But I haven't seen many, if any, Stokies celebrating being saved from relegation or being dead certs for survival. After Saturday no one thinks survival is cut and dried - but plenty are (reasonably) more optimistic than they were. Since the turn of the year we have the second best points record in the division - that's a perfectly good reason to be optimistic - most fans agree that celebrations will have to wait until survival is assured - if it is assured. I am not referring to the game. I am reacting to the article linked by jimigoodwinsbeard. If you're talking 'bout a revolution that means something has substantially changed and you can celebrate, but, nothing has changed substantially or otherwise. There hasn't been a revolution, just a lift off from where Jones left us. We're still knee deep in the mud. |
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Post by thicknthin on Mar 11, 2020 20:36:57 GMT
Notice a scummy gooner had to comment though!
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Post by tosh on Mar 11, 2020 20:37:41 GMT
I repeat "what celebration?" Stokies are celebrating the win - as they are entitled to do - we don't score 5 very often. But I haven't seen many, if any, Stokies celebrating being saved from relegation or being dead certs for survival. After Saturday no one thinks survival is cut and dried - but plenty are (reasonably) more optimistic than they were. Since the turn of the year we have the second best points record in the division - that's a perfectly good reason to be optimistic - most fans agree that celebrations will have to wait until survival is assured - if it is assured. I am not referring to the game. I am reacting to the article linked by jimigoodwinsbeard. If you're talking 'bout a revolution that means something has substantially changed and you can celebrate, but, nothing has changed substantially or otherwise. There hasn't been a revolution, just a lift off from where Jones left us. We're still knee deep in the mud. We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 11, 2020 20:58:10 GMT
I am not referring to the game. I am reacting to the article linked by jimigoodwinsbeard. If you're talking 'bout a revolution that means something has substantially changed and you can celebrate, but, nothing has changed substantially or otherwise. There hasn't been a revolution, just a lift off from where Jones left us. We're still knee deep in the mud. We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. I agree with everything you say mate but you shouldn't have bothered. Old 'Silly Billy' won't answer any of the points you've raised but just spout the same old crap he has done in his 15 previous posts (not literally 15 if you read this). He's done the same on the Joe Allen thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 21:02:06 GMT
We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. I agree with everything you say mate but you shouldn't have bothered. Old 'Silly Billy' won't answer any of the points you've raised but just spout the same old crap he has done in his 15 previous posts (not literally 15 if you read this). He's done the same on the Joe Allen thread. He loves the "attention". |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 7:48:45 GMT
We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. I agree with everything you say mate but you shouldn't have bothered. Old 'Silly Billy' won't answer any of the points you've raised but just spout the same old crap he has done in his 15 previous posts (not literally 15 if you read this). He's done the same on the Joe Allen thread. Talking to yourself, Silly Billy Gravy…? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 7:51:50 GMT
I am not referring to the game. I am reacting to the article linked by jimigoodwinsbeard. If you're talking 'bout a revolution that means something has substantially changed and you can celebrate, but, nothing has changed substantially or otherwise. There hasn't been a revolution, just a lift off from where Jones left us. We're still knee deep in the mud. We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. I have said O'Neill has done well, and he has, but it doesn't change the fact that we are just three points away from being relegated. If we do, we have failed. If we don't, then, and only then, it's time to celebrate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 7:58:15 GMT
We were bottom of the league, six points adrift after fifteen games, when Michael O’Neill came in. We are now effectively four points clear of the drop, and we are SEVENTH in the league since he was appointed. Since the new year we are the SECOND most successful team in the Championship. After not scoring three or more in a match for eighty eight games we have now done it SIX times in twenty two games under his stewardship, including a four goal haul and two fives! Achieved rapidly with mostly a failed manager’s squad, that appeared to have no hope, that performance definitely meets my definition of working some sort of minor miracle let alone a revolution. To use your analogy, when he came here we were in mud up to our necks rather than our knees. The fact that we’re now a lot less than knee deep, and looking transformed from what we were is a magnificent achievement by him so far, and augurs well for the future. You’d have to be a bit of a wet blanket, I would have thought to interprete those stats in any other way, but each to their own. I agree with everything you say mate but you shouldn't have bothered. Old 'Silly Billy' won't answer any of the points you've raised but just spout the same old crap he has done in his 15 previous posts (not literally 15 if you read this). He's done the same on the Joe Allen thread. Toss up between him and biscuit for the worst poster award. |
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