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Post by nott1 on Mar 9, 2020 17:50:44 GMT
2 wins and 2 draws should suffice with our current goal difference Or 1 win and 5 draws, obviously. personally I think 48 points will be enough however expect Stoke should expect to get at least 52/53 points, if we actually maintain the 50% win ration we should hit at least 54 points Don't understand why people are worried about the last two or three games, we are just as likely to win one of those games as any other games We will certainly beat Forest, as I will be there and the players will be keen to please me with a great attacking display. Forest 0 Stoke 4
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 17:54:27 GMT
I have us finishing 19th with 50 points, Charlton staying up on goal difference sending Hull down on 44 points. I think we'll finish 17th and if Hull lose to Charlton on Saturday then they are in a bit of dog doo.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 9, 2020 17:58:31 GMT
Well the bookies on average have us at 16/1... that's pretty long odds in betting terms.The nearest to us is Huddersfield at 8/1. Of course the odds will change but currently few fancy us to go down.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 9, 2020 18:09:51 GMT
Assuming Luton and Barnsley don't go into promotion form (doubt it) and Hull continue plummetting (probably) we should be ok with that. However it's so bunched up down there we should be looking to win all our home games and as a minimum draw all our away games to really make sure.
I'd be far happier if 2 other teams would do a Hull but all the teams around us (apart from Hull) keep having an occasional decent run of form. We need to get the point in the next 4 or 5 games rather than go into the last 4 games in a dog fight.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Mar 9, 2020 18:32:11 GMT
The turn around under MON has been pretty incredible when you look at the state we were in when Jones was sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 18:37:37 GMT
With only 9 games left both Barnsley and Luton need 3 games to catch us which I think is too much for them and having watched Hull yesterday I can't see anyway they will catch us. For me winning our next two home games will as good as done the job. Nothing is too much for a team when you're fighting to escape relegation. Some teams have the ability to get impossible results, some don't. Unfortunately Stoke don't have a lot of latterday experience of escaping. We didn't really fight against relegation two seasons ago, we just sort of slipped in there at the death. I'm not saying it will happen again, but it could especially if we place ourselves as having already escaped just because we had a smart game. Last season our form was relegation worthy but thanks to Rowett's points we were never really in danger of going down. So as I say we don't really have the right sort of experience, moreover many of our current players are still riding a lollipop train. Whenever that mentality kicks in, even O'Neill can't help us.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 9, 2020 18:42:01 GMT
I think it will be very close. It’s a big ask to keep our current form up to the end of the season. Just hope Hull/Boro/Huddersfield/Charlton don’t find amazing form
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 9, 2020 19:05:14 GMT
I think it will be very close. It’s a big ask to keep our current form up to the end of the season. Just hope Hull/Boro/Huddersfield/Charlton don’t find amazing form The encouraging thing is that our form has been pretty consistent since the start of the year and others have been more up and down. I think this reflects the quality of our squad compared to those around us - in terms of quality we are not in the three worst teams in the relegation teams, in fact we're probably the best. There's no need to be complacent but we just have to play to our potential while others will have to play well above it to survive.
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Post by stokiejoe on Mar 9, 2020 19:19:06 GMT
According to stats zone website "An average of around 47 points has been enough to survive the drop in the Championship, but the magic number has varied significantly over the years. Just 40 points would have beaten the drop (with a superior goal difference) in both 2011-12 and 2015-16, whilst 54 points were not enough to keep Peterborough up in 2012-13." So 12 more points likeliest. www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/Given the remaining fixtures of all the teams reckon we should be ok at around 17th barring disasters. We have a better run in compared with others in danger zone.
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Post by Sfance on Mar 9, 2020 19:39:04 GMT
It's still very tight, too tight. I don't think you can rely on current form of anyone as a sure bet predictor. We're only 1 point away from 21st and still only 3 away from 22nd. And we were 7 points clear not very long ago, if I recall correctly. And losing Allen is a huge blow. It's going to be pretty exciting!
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Post by scfc75 on Mar 9, 2020 19:48:27 GMT
According to stats zone website "An average of around 47 points has been enough to survive the drop in the Championship, but the magic number has varied significantly over the years. Just 40 points would have beaten the drop (with a superior goal difference) in both 2011-12 and 2015-16, whilst 54 points were not enough to keep Peterborough up in 2012-13." So 12 more points likeliest. www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/Given the remaining fixtures of all the teams reckon we should be ok at around 17th barring disasters. We have a better run in compared with others in danger zone. Given that the Premier League is reasonably predictable (34pts to 38pts kept you up in the last 5 seasons), that 54pts for Peterborough is insane!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 20:24:00 GMT
I feel like the seven and eight point gaps we have respectively over Luton and Barnsley will keep us ahead of them and can’t see Hull picking up many more points. I think nine will do it, maybe fewer even. There are two Hull's . The one with Jarrod Bowen and the one without . Have they actually won a game since they sold Bowen ?
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Post by rosco on Mar 9, 2020 20:32:00 GMT
I feel like the seven and eight point gaps we have respectively over Luton and Barnsley will keep us ahead of them and can’t see Hull picking up many more points. I think nine will do it, maybe fewer even. There are two Hull's . The one with Jarrod Bowen and the one without . Have they actually won a game since they sold Bowen ? They've not won a game without Bowen since April 2018
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Post by swampmongrel on Mar 9, 2020 20:34:33 GMT
I think it will be very close. It’s a big ask to keep our current form up to the end of the season. Just hope Hull/Boro/Huddersfield/Charlton don’t find amazing form The encouraging thing is that our form has been pretty consistent since the start of the year and others have been more up and down. I think this reflects the quality of our squad compared to those around us - in terms of quality we are not in the three worst teams in the relegation teams, in fact we're probably the best. There's no need to be complacent but we just have to play to our potential while others will have to play well above it to survive. Good point. Almost since MON arrived results have been very consistent. Three matches, his third, fourth and fifth, has been the longest without a win. Every other three match period has included at least one win.
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 10, 2020 19:56:48 GMT
I’d be hugely disappointed if we didn’t win 6 out of the last 9 games
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 10, 2020 20:24:07 GMT
The turn around under MON has been pretty incredible when you look at the state we were in when Jones was sacked. From bottom of what looked like a mini league of 4, all of of whom have performed so well we are now top of a mini league of 8. Staggering turnaround with some very bold calls involved.
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 11, 2020 1:09:34 GMT
It's still very tight, too tight. I don't think you can rely on current form of anyone as a sure bet predictor. We're only 1 point away from 21st and still only 3 away from 22nd. And we were 7 points clear not very long ago, if I recall correctly. And losing Allen is a huge blow. It's going to be pretty exciting! If my memory serves me right we were 7 points clear only because we played on a Friday night. The number was cut to 4 points after the other teams below us played on Saturday. So we're now pretty much as was if you take our much improved goal difference into account. I reckon we need another 10/12 points to be really safe. OS.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 11, 2020 10:35:51 GMT
I’d be hugely disappointed if we didn’t win 6 out of the last 9 games That really won't happen. There again, I assume you were joking.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2020 10:37:19 GMT
It's still very tight, too tight. I don't think you can rely on current form of anyone as a sure bet predictor. We're only 1 point away from 21st and still only 3 away from 22nd. And we were 7 points clear not very long ago, if I recall correctly. And losing Allen is a huge blow. It's going to be pretty exciting! If my memory serves me right we were 7 points clear only because we played on a Friday night. The number was cut to 4 points after the other teams below us played on Saturday. So we're now pretty much as was if you take our much improved goal difference into account. I reckon we need another 10/12 points to be really safe. OS. OS the voice of reason! I'd appoint you as my Coronavirus Czar if I were Boris!
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 11, 2020 14:07:50 GMT
I’d be hugely disappointed if we didn’t win 6 out of the last 9 games That really won't happen. There again, I assume you were joking. No lol I’m serious 😎
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