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Post by Gods on Jul 3, 2020 16:48:27 GMT
PM didn't seem to have anything to say other than next week there will be a timetable for more stuff opening.
Just not sure why he didn't hold fire until then instead of making an announcement about an announcement?
And I think it's a mistake for the journalists to ask 3 questions at once, it means no attempt is made to answer any of them.
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Post by Davef on Jul 3, 2020 17:47:31 GMT
The fact that she needs to bore us shitless with daily briefings when more Scots are committing suicide daily than are dying of Cooooovid 19 says all you need to know about this little Hitler. Yea, why do we need a First Minister who tells the truth and tries to keep us safe when we have a PM who is willing to risk all our lives to keep his business mates happy? Just because I think Nicola Sturgeon is a jumped up little dictator doesn't mean I have any less contempt for Boris Johnson and his sorry band of idiots.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 3, 2020 18:27:28 GMT
Still very much feeling in the dark for all involved. Nobody has any idea if there'll be a second wave or its severity. Perhaps the current restrictions will be enough to keep things under control but the pub frenzy this weekend will be the ultimate test. I was expecting BLM demonstrations to kick off alot more infections but this doesn't seem to have been the case. I'm not sure I get the logic of the Telegraph article - surely if the common cold gives you a level of immunity then the more colds you've had the more immune you would be and as such older people will be more immune and suffer less rather than the younger ones. As for this weekend I doubt we will have a second spike on the back of it anymore than BLM - I wouldn't expect it to set off a mass outbreak of colds. My biggest fear is that it does however keep up a level of circulation which will bloom in to a fully blow outbreak later in the year when people are huddling indoors and the central heating is on. Instead we should now be taking the opportunity of the respite we are having to chase it down into almost negligible existence.
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Post by 828492 on Jul 3, 2020 19:07:47 GMT
PM didn't seem to have anything to say other than next week there will be a timetable for more stuff opening. Just not sure why he didn't hold fire until then instead of making an announcement about an announcement? And I think it's a mistake for the journalists to ask 3 questions at once, it means no attempt is made to answer any of them. He did make reference to Sheffield. What was that about? Is there something happening in Sheffield that has not yet been picked up by the press? Or was Johnson just confused about anything to do with places north of Uxbridge and what he meant was Leicester but he could not be arsed to get the name of a ‘northern’ city correct. After all he is an indolent, mendacious, incompetent cult.
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Post by noustie on Jul 3, 2020 20:50:52 GMT
Yea, why do we need a First Minister who tells the truth and tries to keep us safe when we have a PM who is willing to risk all our lives to keep his business mates happy? Not sure the folk in Scotland would necessarily agree with you, particularly those in care homes. Scotland's record in that regard is worse than England's. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53280011Not sure about that mate - England's excess care home deaths just come out at 30,000. Scotland's entire excess deaths is 5,000; 4,000 with Corona noted; 2,000 in care homes and; 1,000 unknown. They could add the entire 1000 on to carehomes and in would still just give Scotland 9% in line with population split.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 3, 2020 21:12:54 GMT
PM didn't seem to have anything to say other than next week there will be a timetable for more stuff opening. Just not sure why he didn't hold fire until then instead of making an announcement about an announcement? And I think it's a mistake for the journalists to ask 3 questions at once, it means no attempt is made to answer any of them. that's because he mutes them with follow ups!!! he does not like scrutiny!! and the reason he didn't hold fire is his ego !! he likes the sound of his own voice!!!
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Post by Davef on Jul 3, 2020 21:22:07 GMT
Joris Bohnson in great form.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 4, 2020 9:01:46 GMT
He's simply an utter fuckwit isn't he.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 4, 2020 9:10:39 GMT
The fact that she needs to bore us shitless with daily briefings when more Scots are committing suicide daily than are dying of Cooooovid 19 says all you need to know about this little Hitler. Yea, why do we need a First Minister who tells the truth and tries to keep us safe when we have a PM who is willing to risk all our lives to keep his business mates happy? The big problem in your argument is that if the situation persisted the economy goes down the pan. Even more folk will die due to deprivation than ever will of Covid. It's a fine line they're trying to walk. Whichever route the Government take is fraught with danger. Too many people playing politics
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 4, 2020 9:12:09 GMT
He's simply an utter fuckwit isn't he. It's absolutely unbelievable isn't it? This is why people get confused by their messaging, or just think "ah fuck it" and ignore it completely.
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Post by henry on Jul 4, 2020 9:38:15 GMT
"You should not:
gather indoors in groups of more than two households (your support bubble counts as one household) - this includes when dining out or going to the pub"
How does this work in a fucking pub ?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 4, 2020 9:42:17 GMT
Yea, why do we need a First Minister who tells the truth and tries to keep us safe when we have a PM who is willing to risk all our lives to keep his business mates happy? The big problem in your argument is that if the situation persisted the economy goes down the pan. Even more folk will die due to deprivation than ever will of Covid. It's a fine line they're trying to walk. Whichever route the Government take is fraught with danger. Too many people playing politics You can apply the same arguement to opening up though - as long as Covid remains endemic it will be the health services #1 priority increasing waiting times for everything else and a high risk of further lockdown hangs (with it's attendant economic and social damage) over us. The objective for both the economy and wider public health should surely therefore be to case down Covid to as near zero as possible. I'm not a fan of Ms S's wider agenda and Scotland also fucked up on care homes (though did admit it rather than gaslighting with "throwing a protective ring" bollocks) but I would far prefer to have had her in charge of our Covid response than Jolly Boris, Toxic Dom and Smallcock.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 4, 2020 10:15:10 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2020 10:24:45 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 4, 2020 10:28:38 GMT
That's a really interesting article. Fewer than a thousand deaths, with the most elderly population in the world, living in some of the most densely packed cities. Incredible ... Japan also discovered two significant patterns early in the pandemic. Dr Kazuaki Jindai, a medical researcher at Kyoto university and member of the cluster-suppression taskforce, said data showed over a third of infections originated in very similar places. "Our figures... showed many infected people had visited music venues where there is screaming and singing... we knew that those were the places people needed to avoid." The team identified "heavy breathing in close proximity" including "singing at karaoke parlours, parties, cheering at clubs, conversations in bars and exercising in gyms" as the highest-risk activities. Second, the team found that the infection's spread was down to a small percentage of those carrying the virus. An early study found around 80% of those with SARS Covi-2 did not infect others - while 20% were highly infectious. These discoveries led to the government launching a nationwide campaign warning people to avoid the "Three Cs". Enclosed spaces with poor ventilation Crowded places with many people Close contact settings such as face-to-face conversations. "I think that probably worked better than just telling people to stay at home," Dr Jindai says.
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Post by Davef on Jul 4, 2020 11:37:16 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 4, 2020 11:37:49 GMT
That's a really interesting article. Fewer than a thousand deaths, with the most elderly population in the world, living in some of the most densely packed cities. Incredible ... Japan also discovered two significant patterns early in the pandemic. Dr Kazuaki Jindai, a medical researcher at Kyoto university and member of the cluster-suppression taskforce, said data showed over a third of infections originated in very similar places. "Our figures... showed many infected people had visited music venues where there is screaming and singing... we knew that those were the places people needed to avoid." The team identified "heavy breathing in close proximity" including "singing at karaoke parlours, parties, cheering at clubs, conversations in bars and exercising in gyms" as the highest-risk activities. Second, the team found that the infection's spread was down to a small percentage of those carrying the virus. An early study found around 80% of those with SARS Covi-2 did not infect others - while 20% were highly infectious. These discoveries led to the government launching a nationwide campaign warning people to avoid the "Three Cs". Enclosed spaces with poor ventilation Crowded places with many people Close contact settings such as face-to-face conversations. "I think that probably worked better than just telling people to stay at home," Dr Jindai says. Imagine if that's all we did. People would be going nuts. They are already shitting themselves at every change that doesn't involve "don't leave your house".
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 4, 2020 13:24:39 GMT
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 4, 2020 16:17:41 GMT
That's a really interesting article. Fewer than a thousand deaths, with the most elderly population in the world, living in some of the most densely packed cities. Incredible ... Japan also discovered two significant patterns early in the pandemic. Dr Kazuaki Jindai, a medical researcher at Kyoto university and member of the cluster-suppression taskforce, said data showed over a third of infections originated in very similar places. "Our figures... showed many infected people had visited music venues where there is screaming and singing... we knew that those were the places people needed to avoid." The team identified "heavy breathing in close proximity" including "singing at karaoke parlours, parties, cheering at clubs, conversations in bars and exercising in gyms" as the highest-risk activities. Second, the team found that the infection's spread was down to a small percentage of those carrying the virus. An early study found around 80% of those with SARS Covi-2 did not infect others - while 20% were highly infectious. These discoveries led to the government launching a nationwide campaign warning people to avoid the "Three Cs". Enclosed spaces with poor ventilation Crowded places with many people Close contact settings such as face-to-face conversations. "I think that probably worked better than just telling people to stay at home," Dr Jindai says. Imagine if that's all we did. People would be going nuts. They are already shitting themselves at every change that doesn't involve "don't leave your house". Different mentality in Japan, and wearing face coverings has been quite normal for nigh on 100 years. I do despair at the attitude of some in this country
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2020 16:42:39 GMT
bloody hell...
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 4, 2020 16:56:11 GMT
Imagine if that's all we did. People would be going nuts. They are already shitting themselves at every change that doesn't involve "don't leave your house". Different mentality in Japan, and wearing face coverings has been quite normal for nigh on 100 years. I do despair at the attitude of some in this country Isn't what our Japanese friend is suggesting pretty much the advice given here before we locked down? It didn't work. At an individual level people couldn't stay out of pubs and at a corporate level events like Cheltenham still went ahead. If people aren't responsible enough to follow advice then you have to legislate.
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Post by Davef on Jul 4, 2020 17:21:07 GMT
Imagine if that's all we did. People would be going nuts. They are already shitting themselves at every change that doesn't involve "don't leave your house". Different mentality in Japan, and wearing face coverings has been quite normal for nigh on 100 years. I do despair at the attitude of some in this country Did you know that there was a major influenza epidemic in Japan in 2018/19 despite their willingness to wear masks? www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00386/japan-gripped-by-major-flu-outbreak.html
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 4, 2020 17:54:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2020 18:06:33 GMT
It’s probably nothing more than not being arsed to get the intern make the graphic but it’s just odd and on the surface looks like they’re hiding something.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 4, 2020 18:15:27 GMT
It’s probably nothing more than not being arsed to get the intern make the graphic but it’s just odd and on the surface looks like they’re hiding something. Exactly my thoughts also
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 4, 2020 18:20:14 GMT
So 67 deaths and 624 new cases. That's brilliant for a Saturday! But doesn't include NI figures.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 4, 2020 18:21:54 GMT
So 67 deaths and 624 new cases. That's brilliant for a Saturday! Yes for both Paul👍
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2020 18:26:48 GMT
So 67 deaths and 624 new cases. That's brilliant for a Saturday! Yes for both Paul👍 Sorry chaps, I see nothing to celebrate.
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Post by Davef on Jul 4, 2020 18:31:00 GMT
Apparently, this is 10 times below epidemic level.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 4, 2020 18:35:07 GMT
Sorry chaps, I see nothing to celebrate. It's the lowest figures we've seen on a standard day since the beginning of lock down by a huge margin. This following the protests and the packed beaches. If this trend continues it can only be a good thing. Obviously we've got people now congregating inside as well as outside, this will be the real test and we've got to hope that this relaxing of the rules won't reverse the current trend. I'm not convinced that it won't but I'll be delighted if it doesn't.
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