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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2020 13:44:42 GMT
Anyway I see the ex doctor who reported Cummins has admitted to breaking the lockdown himself Having made a lengthy trip to Berkshire to pick his daughter up And the report of a second trip was false as the second man has admitted he made it all up and even falsified his cycling records And this is the big problem. No ones trying to do things for the right reason everyone has an agenda. Hypocrites everywhere.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 31, 2020 13:45:07 GMT
A couple of weeks of wet weather might be just what is needed right now. Keeps many inside and could act as the last bit of lockdown to really get on top of this thing.
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Post by xchpotter on May 31, 2020 13:47:08 GMT
Dickheads .... I would have left them there It's going to be like this for weeks with millions furloughed, most of the schools out shopping not yet back to normal and universities closed and the weather likely to get hotter as we go into June, July and August. I can only see a second spike coming in a few weeks time. I'm going to keep the same social distancing I've used for the last 10 weeks for a few more weeks/months yet to be on the safe side. I will be changing very little about how I'm currently maintainting my distance. I work on the belief that anyone near me probably has it and I will keep out of their way. Unfortunately those who are too thick or too selfish won't behave the same way. Just the other day whilst walking across a large public field which had a worn foot path through the grass I became aware of two cyclists behind me. Not kids, but middle aged blokes. They had the whole field(which had short grass and was bone dry) to negotiate around me, but no they had to come right up close behind me causing me to step aside. I'm afraid the country has too many entitled and selfish sorts across all spectrums for there to be anything other than a second spike... just hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2020 14:15:01 GMT
Relaxing restrictions for most vulnerable has no scientific rationale, says top virologist ... The government’s surprise announcement that more than 2 million of the most vulnerable people will be allowed outside from Monday lacks any scientific rationale and amounts to a public relations exercise, a leading virus expert has said. Dr Stephen Griffin, an associate professor at Leeds University’s school of medicine, said the relaxation of measures for shielders - those most at risk from severe Covid-19 symptoms - “seems to lack any obvious rationale other than to add to an ongoing ‘good news’ narrative that appears to have little grounding in reality”. www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/31/experts-decry-easing-of-coronavirus-lockdown-for-englands-shielders
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Post by wagsastokie on May 31, 2020 14:17:12 GMT
The crowds at Trafalger Square are a bit concerning also regarding large gatherings🤔 NHS and care workers lives matter whatever there colour Fellow londoners lives matter whatever there colour Transport workers lives matter whatever there colour All those people put at risk by those irresponsible arseholes and there virtue signalling
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2020 14:29:04 GMT
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Post by theincontinents on May 31, 2020 14:47:49 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2020 14:55:32 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2020 14:57:49 GMT
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Post by Davef on May 31, 2020 15:02:38 GMT
Im pretty sure I posted a link on here three or four weeks ago about the many cases of blood clotting and why ventilators weren't the answer to the problem. It was probably lost in the endless pages of political bollocks.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2020 15:03:10 GMT
I wonder where Mr Jenrick got his hair cut🤔
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2020 15:09:05 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 31, 2020 15:09:08 GMT
The crowds at Trafalger Square are a bit concerning also regarding large gatherings🤔 I wonder how many fines were handed out to these lot ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2020 15:14:04 GMT
The crowds at Trafalger Square are a bit concerning also regarding large gatherings🤔 I wonder how many fines were handed out to these lot ? I’d have a guess at none and this lot also
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Post by crapslinger on May 31, 2020 15:21:09 GMT
The crowds at Trafalger Square are a bit concerning also regarding large gatherings🤔 NHS and care workers lives matter whatever there colour Fellow londoners lives matter whatever there colour Transport workers lives matter whatever there colour All those people put at risk by those irresponsible arseholes and there virtue signalling If black lives matter so much to them and as we have been told members of the BAME community are more susceptible to dying from the Chinese death sentence why are these layabouts risking black lives to protest about an incident in America, it's a load of bollocks and look ay me syndrome fcuking plebs.
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Post by crapslinger on May 31, 2020 15:22:42 GMT
I wonder how many fines were handed out to these lot ? I’d have a guess at none and this lot also It would be interesting to find out how far they travelled to protest in London.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 31, 2020 15:27:31 GMT
Im pretty sure I posted a link on here three or four weeks ago about the many cases of blood clotting and why ventilators weren't the answer to the problem. It was probably lost in the endless pages of political bollocks. There was something about a week ago I posted about how they've found people with severe cases had a different amount of certain white blood cells And they reckon with a blood test when people first show symptoms they maybe able to determin who will get the worst symptoms and intervine earlier
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2020 15:29:17 GMT
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Post by Davef on May 31, 2020 15:32:45 GMT
I wonder where Mr Jenrick got his hair cut🤔 I'll tell you what, there can't be many politicians and TV presenters who aren't married to hairdressers!
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Post by chad on May 31, 2020 15:38:06 GMT
NHS and care workers lives matter whatever there colour Fellow londoners lives matter whatever there colour Transport workers lives matter whatever there colour All those people put at risk by those irresponsible arseholes and there virtue signalling If black lives matter so much to them and as we have been told members of the BAME community are more susceptible to dying from the Chinese death sentence why are these layabouts risking black lives to protest about an incident in America, it's a load of bollocks and look ay me syndrome fcuking plebs. They’ll be looting later
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Post by wagsastokie on May 31, 2020 15:41:48 GMT
If black lives matter so much to them and as we have been told members of the BAME community are more susceptible to dying from the Chinese death sentence why are these layabouts risking black lives to protest about an incident in America, it's a load of bollocks and look ay me syndrome fcuking plebs. They’ll be looting later That's a little harsh
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Post by Old School Stokie on May 31, 2020 15:49:15 GMT
Purpose of lockdown - to ensure NHS was not overun with sharp rise in cases in order that it could be managed. That has now passed and yes there may be a second "spur" but the science say the NHS will not be overun, so as far as govt are concerned carry on - there is no stopping this virus from spreading, a vaccine may be found but it will take at least 12 months of testing and even then the side effects might be worse than the vaccine curing people- lets not forget thalidamide - now people can be infected in a more controlled manner and as soon as they do and get immunity then that will be the end goal. Its sad I know and more vulnerable people will die - but not in the massive surges as anticipated - may just be 100 per day for the next 10 to 12 months - manageable
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Post by ravey123 on May 31, 2020 15:55:11 GMT
As I have previously said I think a lot of the easing of the lockdown is down to the behavioural science rather than the medical science I don't think the lockdown was going to hold much longer and the government rightly or wrongly have tried to prempt it in a semi controlled way Me personally I shall continue to isolate as much as possible and keep to social distancing until there is a vaccine or cure I think you’ve very much hit the nail on the head The young / young adults have had enough. They know they’re not particularly vulnerable and they don’t have the wisdom or patience of us elderly 😊 Hang on - who are you calling elderly. I think you are really talking about common sense and respect for others
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Post by stokeson on May 31, 2020 15:58:22 GMT
Why does Dr Anita Harris keep saying 200,000 tests available when the most weve done is 127,00........
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2020 16:02:59 GMT
Purpose of lockdown - to ensure NHS was not overun with sharp rise in cases in order that it could be managed. That has now passed and yes there may be a second "spur" but the science say the NHS will not be overun, so as far as govt are concerned carry on - there is no stopping this virus from spreading, a vaccine may be found but it will take at least 12 months of testing and even then the side effects might be worse than the vaccine curing people- lets not forget thalidamide - now people can be infected in a more controlled manner and as soon as they do and get immunity then that will be the end goal. Its sad I know and more vulnerable people will die - but not in the massive surges as anticipated - may just be 100 per day for the next 10 to 12 months - manageable Others countries have it down it to 0. Why can’t we have that?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2020 16:03:19 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 31, 2020 16:11:04 GMT
It's going to be like this for weeks with millions furloughed, most of the schools out shopping not yet back to normal and universities closed and the weather likely to get hotter as we go into June, July and August. I can only see a second spike coming in a few weeks time. I'm going to keep the same social distancing I've used for the last 10 weeks for a few more weeks/months yet to be on the safe side. As I have previously said I think a lot of the easing of the lockdown is down to the behavioural science rather than the medical science I don't think the lockdown was going to hold much longer and the government rightly or wrongly have tried to prempt it in a semi controlled way Me personally I shall continue to isolate as much as possible and keep to social distancing until there is a vaccine or cure Excellent post and bang on the money. It's obvious from working the last 10 weeks that people will not stay in for ever and from speaking to neighbours I have one who has constantly breached the conditions from day one and she will continue to but even the ones who have done really well have started to wobble a bit, with one driving up to see her daughter after being on her own for 10 weeks and the others who have started seeing there mum and having her over. It could never last for ever and if it can be managed and get down to less than 100 deaths a day for the forseable future then it indeed makes good sense to lift some of the conditions but as you say still being careful around distancing and not having wild parties. Of course every death is awful but there are other factors mental health, the economy that we cant ignore.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 31, 2020 16:14:23 GMT
Purpose of lockdown - to ensure NHS was not overun with sharp rise in cases in order that it could be managed. That has now passed and yes there may be a second "spur" but the science say the NHS will not be overun, so as far as govt are concerned carry on - there is no stopping this virus from spreading, a vaccine may be found but it will take at least 12 months of testing and even then the side effects might be worse than the vaccine curing people- lets not forget thalidamide - now people can be infected in a more controlled manner and as soon as they do and get immunity then that will be the end goal. Its sad I know and more vulnerable people will die - but not in the massive surges as anticipated - may just be 100 per day for the next 10 to 12 months - manageable Others countries have it down it to 0. Why can’t we have that? [/quote If only it was that easy. In a lot of cases I'm sure they've acted quicker than we have but you also have to look at the dynamics of the countries and the size of cities etc plus who lives there. I'm not sure we could get down to 0 even if we had a complete lockdown and no one was allowed out of there house. I'm sure not even the second coming Starmer could have done that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2020 16:17:48 GMT
Others countries have it down it to 0. Why can’t we have that? If only it was that easy. In a lot of cases I'm sure they've acted quicker than we have but you also have to look at the dynamics of the countries and the size of cities etc plus who lives there. I'm not sure we could get down to 0 even if we had a complete lockdown and no one was allowed out of there house. I'm sure not even the second coming Starmer could have done that. A quicker lockdown would mean we would be a lot closer. All of what they’re doing now is too soon. They have fucked it from the get go.
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Post by southstanddan on May 31, 2020 16:19:54 GMT
Why does Dr Anita Harris keep saying 200,000 tests available when the most weve done is 127,00........ Because people either don’t show up for a booked appointment or aren’t booking them in the first place. Most test centres aren’t reaching anywhere near the daily capacity that they can be testing
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