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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 14:09:09 GMT
Give him a break it’s a bank holiday weekend. He’ll be on his second bottle of Bollinger and 5th episode of Game of Thrones by now.....
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 14:10:57 GMT
For me It’s not about politics anymore, it’s about leadership This lot have failed us badly.
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Post by noustie on May 23, 2020 14:13:53 GMT
Yeah mate - as I understand when he went it was stay at home. Once he got back it changed to allowing family to help out. Convenient that eh, mate? Saw somewhere the dates it changed but when he was spoken to on 31st March it was stay at home and if you get it then you shouldn't leave your house. Calderwood was sacked less than a week after that for travelling 45 minutes to her second home symptom free and walking on a lonely beach. The duplicity stinks mate.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 23, 2020 14:13:54 GMT
A spokesman for Durham Constabulary said:“On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had traveled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city. Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house. In line with national policing guidance, officers explained the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel”.Official number 10 statement:"He went to a house near to but separate from his extended family.""At no stage was he or his family spoken to by the police about this matter, as is being reported."
So somebody is lying then? What on earth would the police stand to gain, by making stuff up? What on earth would number 10 stand to gain, by making stuff up?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2020 14:18:47 GMT
You've lost me? If you're agreeing viewpoint just say so........ Agreeing with whose viewpoint? My point is...... I think he makes a basic point about the actual origin of the virus....and the initial actions of the Chinese government have had more implications in the UK and worldwide than anything that the UK government could have done or did do. Just a simple point that he is making. The Chinese government should not have lied , should have acted more quickly and should have stopped travel out of the country. Perhaps he repeats " slab or lab" to emphasise his basic point, I don't know, as I say , I don't need to defend him. If it had originated in the UK then this government would have zbeen slaughtered, in my opinion. So I agree with Carps that the Chinese government does have some major responsibility in the spread of the virus. Do you agree with his point?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 23, 2020 14:19:19 GMT
The attorney general has spoken.
Anyone who has been fined during this should get their lawyers to take all these tweets and get their money back.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 23, 2020 14:23:57 GMT
For me It’s not about politics anymore, it’s about leadership This lot have failed us badly. I agree. I've tried to avoid the politics bit because I didn't vote last time out. I couldn't even be arsed to spoil the paper such is the disdain I had for the leader of each party as well as the parties themselves. The last election was essentially a 2nd Brexit vote and I'd already voted in that particular battle. You are bang on. It is about leadership and if you are leading the masses you have to be whiter the white. This lot (and the rest) clearly aren't. Boris is missing in action. He's either well enough to return to work or he isn't. To be well enough to return to work then effectively disappear is gross negligence. This Cummings thing is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. He's broken every guideline going, guidelines he's seemingly had a significant role in putting in place, yet it's ok. It absolutely isn't ok. My mother in law, a fit and healthy 67 year old is a former head teacher. She would be a godsend for home schooling whilst I'm working under difficult circumstances and under massive pressure. Cummings has taken a trip, when he should have been isolating at a time that by pure Coincidence, coincided with his mums birthday. It's a disgrace. Plain and simple and leadership is the key word. They couldn't lead a piss up in a brewery. Edit - and that's before you take into his wifes description of life in covid induced isolation.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2020 14:30:24 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2020 14:46:49 GMT
Agreeing with whose viewpoint? My point is...... I think he makes a basic point about the actual origin of the virus....and the initial actions of the Chinese government have had more implications in the UK and worldwide than anything that the UK government could have done or did do. Just a simple point that he is making. The Chinese government should not have lied , should have acted more quickly and should have stopped travel out of the country. Perhaps he repeats " slab or lab" to emphasise his basic point, I don't know, as I say , I don't need to defend him. If it had originated on the UK then this government would have been slaughtered, in my opinion. So I agree with Carps that the Chinese government does have some major responsibility in the spread of the virus. Do you agree with his point? Not one of them have answered the lab or slab question not one I wonder why that is, they are still smarting from the Brexit vote and the drubbing at the GE in December which is what this faux outrage about their victors is all about in truth. A number of them disappeared from this board for months after the GE, they are disgracefully using this Chinese "virus" the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, wrecked economy and people losing their livelihoods to score political points in the hope of clawing back some credibility Their stock response is to label anyone who dares to challenge the main culprit in this "virus" wrecking the World and it's economy as racist, xenophobic, mentally ill etc., yet they have no opinion or answer's to simple straight forward questions, their negativity is there for all to see just as it was for over three years on from the Brexit result, their socialist dream for the UK is dead in the water, it's like a dinosaur with it's head cut off it's demise is taking a while to reach it's twitching tail.
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2020 14:49:11 GMT
For me It’s not about politics anymore, it’s about leadership This lot have failed us badly. I agree. I've tried to avoid the politics bit because I didn't vote last time out. I couldn't even be arsed to spoil the paper such is the disdain I had for the leader of each party as well as the parties themselves. The last election was essentially a 2nd Brexit vote and I'd already voted in that particular battle. You are bang on. It is about leadership and if you are leading the masses you have to be whiter the white. This lot (and the rest) clearly aren't. Boris is missing in action. He's either well enough to return to work or he isn't. To be well enough to return to work then effectively disappear is gross negligence. This Cummings thing is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. He's broken every guideline going, guidelines he's seemingly had a significant role in putting in place, yet it's ok. It absolutely isn't ok. My mother in law, a fit and healthy 67 year old is a former head teacher. She would be a godsend for home schooling whilst I'm working under difficult circumstances and under massive pressure. Cummings has taken a trip, when he should have been isolating at a time that by pure Coincidence, coincided with his mums birthday. It's a disgrace. Plain and simple and leadership is the key word. They couldn't lead a piss up in a brewery. Edit - and that's before you take into his wifes description of life in covid induced isolation. I thought you had a trip to make better hurry up or you will be late
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2020 14:52:11 GMT
Shapps, that well known fountain of truth is taking the briefing.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2020 14:53:35 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2020 14:54:26 GMT
Shapps, that well known fountain of truth is taking the briefing. They truly don't give a flying fuck do they.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2020 14:54:26 GMT
My point is...... I think he makes a basic point about the actual origin of the virus....and the initial actions of the Chinese government have had more implications in the UK and worldwide than anything that the UK government could have done or did do. Just a simple point that he is making. The Chinese government should not have lied , should have acted more quickly and should have stopped travel out of the country. Perhaps he repeats " slab or lab" to emphasise his basic point, I don't know, as I say , I don't need to defend him. If it had originated on the UK then this government would have been slaughtered, in my opinion. So I agree with Carps that the Chinese government does have some major responsibility in the spread of the virus. Do you agree with his point? Not one of them have answered the lab or slab question not one I wonder why that is, they are still smarting from the Brexit vote and the drubbing at the GE in December which is what this faux outrage about their victors is all about in truth. A number of them disappeared from this board for months after the GE, they are disgracefully using this Chinese "virus" the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, wrecked economy and people losing their livelihoods to score political points in the hope of clawing back some credibility Their stock response is to label anyone who dares to challenge the main culprit in this "virus" wrecking the World and it's economy as racist, xenophobic, mentally ill etc., yet they have no opinion or answer's to simple straight forward questions, their negativity is there for all to see just as it was for over three years on from the Brexit result, their socialist dream for the UK is dead in the water, it's like a dinosaur with it's head cut off it's demise is taking a while to reach it's twitching tail.
Do you think Cummings should resign?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on May 23, 2020 14:57:26 GMT
At what point was his child at risk and not being looked after by anyone? If they both had coronavirus how would they know their symptoms wouldn't rapidly deteriotate enough so they wouldn't be able to keep their children safe. They made a very difficult judgement call at the time, maybe it was right or maybe it was wrong but there's a lot of people judging who have not been in that position and who do not have an alternative solution. Maybe. But if they genuinely believed themselves to have done nothing wrong why portray an alternative and entirely false version of events in the Mail and the Spectator? So if I abstain from being judgemental about their approach to childcare is it ok if I'm judgenental about them lying?
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 23, 2020 14:58:45 GMT
I agree. I've tried to avoid the politics bit because I didn't vote last time out. I couldn't even be arsed to spoil the paper such is the disdain I had for the leader of each party as well as the parties themselves. The last election was essentially a 2nd Brexit vote and I'd already voted in that particular battle. You are bang on. It is about leadership and if you are leading the masses you have to be whiter the white. This lot (and the rest) clearly aren't. Boris is missing in action. He's either well enough to return to work or he isn't. To be well enough to return to work then effectively disappear is gross negligence. This Cummings thing is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. He's broken every guideline going, guidelines he's seemingly had a significant role in putting in place, yet it's ok. It absolutely isn't ok. My mother in law, a fit and healthy 67 year old is a former head teacher. She would be a godsend for home schooling whilst I'm working under difficult circumstances and under massive pressure. Cummings has taken a trip, when he should have been isolating at a time that by pure Coincidence, coincided with his mums birthday. It's a disgrace. Plain and simple and leadership is the key word. They couldn't lead a piss up in a brewery. Edit - and that's before you take into his wifes description of life in covid induced isolation. I thought you had a trip to make better hurry up or you will be late I'm here mate. Mum is just packing then we'll be on road again
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2020 15:02:03 GMT
Not one of them have answered the lab or slab question not one I wonder why that is, they are still smarting from the Brexit vote and the drubbing at the GE in December which is what this faux outrage about their victors is all about in truth. A number of them disappeared from this board for months after the GE, they are disgracefully using this Chinese "virus" the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, wrecked economy and people losing their livelihoods to score political points in the hope of clawing back some credibility Their stock response is to label anyone who dares to challenge the main culprit in this "virus" wrecking the World and it's economy as racist, xenophobic, mentally ill etc., yet they have no opinion or answer's to simple straight forward questions, their negativity is there for all to see just as it was for over three years on from the Brexit result, their socialist dream for the UK is dead in the water, it's like a dinosaur with it's head cut off it's demise is taking a while to reach it's twitching tail.
Do you think Cummings should resign? Yes I have already stated that, if not he should be sacked for negligence, now do you believe this "virus" originate from lab or slab ?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2020 15:03:45 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2020 15:04:18 GMT
I thought you had a trip to make better hurry up or you will be late I'm here mate. Mum is just packing then we'll be on road again Well done I would have done the same in the circumstances, have a safe 100 mile trip back
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 23, 2020 15:05:42 GMT
If this is true....he's fucked.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 15:06:38 GMT
My point is...... I think he makes a basic point about the actual origin of the virus....and the initial actions of the Chinese government have had more implications in the UK and worldwide than anything that the UK government could have done or did do. Just a simple point that he is making. The Chinese government should not have lied , should have acted more quickly and should have stopped travel out of the country. Perhaps he repeats " slab or lab" to emphasise his basic point, I don't know, as I say , I don't need to defend him. If it had originated on the UK then this government would have been slaughtered, in my opinion. So I agree with Carps that the Chinese government does have some major responsibility in the spread of the virus. Do you agree with his point? Not one of them have answered the lab or slab question not one I wonder why that is, they are still smarting from the Brexit vote and the drubbing at the GE in December which is what this faux outrage about their victors is all about in truth. A number of them disappeared from this board for months after the GE, they are disgracefully using this Chinese "virus" the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, wrecked economy and people losing their livelihoods to score political points in the hope of clawing back some credibility Their stock response is to label anyone who dares to challenge the main culprit in this "virus" wrecking the World and it's economy as racist, xenophobic, mentally ill etc., yet they have no opinion or answer's to simple straight forward questions, their negativity is there for all to see just as it was for over three years on from the Brexit result, their socialist dream for the UK is dead in the water, it's like a dinosaur with it's head cut off it's demise is taking a while to reach it's twitching tail.
Several people have somehow managed to pick the bones out of your mainly incoherent posts and responded to the point you keep harping on about. Stop making shit up.....
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Post by vokeswagen on May 23, 2020 15:07:06 GMT
Cummings is in serious trouble here. Even the fyds, the todgers and the particks of this world haven't managed to find a deflective tweet from a totally unqualified source yet
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2020 15:09:10 GMT
As the Left seem to be liking the Mail now a days
From the Mail on line. China has acknowledged it destroyed early samples of COVID-19, confirming a claim put forward by U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo late last month.
On Friday, Liu Dengfeng, a supervisor with China's National Health Commission, admitted that 'the Chinese government issued an order on January 3 to dispose of coronavirus samples' at unauthorized laboratories, according to Newsweek.
But Liu denied that the samples were destroyed as part of a cover-up, insisting that they were disposed of so as to 'prevent risk to laboratory biological safety and prevent secondary disasters caused by unidentified pathogens.'
He stated that the labs were 'unauthorized' to handle such samples, and they had to be terminated in order to comply with Chinese public health laws.
Liu did not specify how many labs destroyed coronavirus samples.
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Post by 828492 on May 23, 2020 15:09:37 GMT
Shapps, that well known fountain of truth is taking the briefing. He looks a bit like Michael Green to me. Or is it Sebastian Fox? They all look so alike.
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Post by essexstokey on May 23, 2020 15:12:11 GMT
wtf has this press briefing got to do with carona virus today
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 15:14:34 GMT
Leave Dominic alone. He's doing a great job of pulling the rug from under Boris.
He'll have him and the Tories out in no time.
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Post by chad on May 23, 2020 15:24:09 GMT
Leave Dominic alone. He's doing a great job of pulling the rug from under Boris. He'll have him and the Tories out in no time. If you consider 10 years as no time 😊
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Post by spitthedog on May 23, 2020 15:24:37 GMT
Agreeing with whose viewpoint? My point is...... I think he makes a basic point about the actual origin of the virus....and the initial actions of the Chinese government have had more implications in the UK and worldwide than anything that the UK government could have done or did do. Just a simple point that he is making. The Chinese government should not have lied , should have acted more quickly and should have stopped travel out of the country. Perhaps he repeats " slab or lab" to emphasise his basic point, I don't know, as I say , I don't need to defend him. If it had originated on the UK then this government would have been slaughtered, in my opinion. So I agree with Carps that the Chinese government does have some major responsibility in the spread of the virus. Do you agree with his point? so they have a major responsibility?...Ok let's assume the answer is Yes. In what ways is that relevant to the responsibilities of other Government's in protecting their populations? You could say Germany had a responsibility for producing Hitler, but arguing over that wouldn't have helped the allies in defeating him in WW2. That was pretty low on the list of concerns when their was a war to fight. The vast majority of people are obviously and understandably concerned about the management of this virus within our own boundaries, the rest is largely irrelevant until its sorted here. What goes on in China is very hard to establish for people in China never mind outside. Its just a distraction from the job at hand which is not being handled at all well let's face it.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 23, 2020 15:26:48 GMT
Do you think Cummings should resign? Yes I have already stated that, if not he should be sacked for negligence, now do you believe this "virus" originate from lab or slab ? Genetic mutation of a bat virus somewhere in China. As far as I'm aware bats aren't very nationalistic but do tend to have right wing political views so that they can fly clockwise when catching moths. However all known viruses are rampant Marxists and receive regular backhanders from the communist governments. If you wish to apportion blame - which is clearly what you want - why blame China when only they have 83,000 confirmed cases and 4,600 deaths while the US have 1,600,000 cases and 96,000 deaths? Surely the most irresponsible nation on earth isn't the one where the unfortunate genetic mutation occurred (which is just bad luck) but the one that has managed to kill the biggest proportion of their own population and continues to incubate and potentially infect the rest of the world? Fact is every country has made mistakes but once China got it's act together they got on top of it and the countries that didn't get on top of it early enough happen to be in the West and on the whole headed by incompetent right wing dickheads. But that doesn't suit your political agenda does it...
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Post by spitthedog on May 23, 2020 15:27:09 GMT
Shapps, that well known fountain of truth is taking the briefing. Is he still called Shapps or has he changed his name again?
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