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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 16:27:51 GMT
So then you take them on, head on. I wasn't blaming them for it, just saying it was curious, which it is. Their whole take on the environment and animals has to change though, it's so damaging. And we have to think about that too. Climate change is going to be a massive issue and we have to make changes. I've made my standpoint on the Americans food hygiene, I think it's disgusting and their whole system in general. Why anyone would want to align themselves with them I do now know. I can understand about the animals, but the environment is one area they are taking big strides to change isn't it, vast projects to move to clean energy and regreening deserts etc. ? Regreening deserts sounds terrible tbh.
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Post by Davef on Mar 30, 2020 16:28:25 GMT
That'll be your planes landing.
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Post by Northy on Mar 30, 2020 16:32:06 GMT
I can understand about the animals, but the environment is one area they are taking big strides to change isn't it, vast projects to move to clean energy and regreening deserts etc. ? Regreening deserts sounds terrible tbh. why ?
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 30, 2020 16:35:58 GMT
I've had to edit my post, they announced wrong numbers. New cases up by almost 1000 compared to yesterday and deaths higher. I think I've noticed a couple of those hiccoughs since Borrelli went down... missed Piemonte for a bit in one announcement didn't they? We're coming up to what I first thought should be peak death time in Lombardy. Another day where the south is still looking alright. Another tiny drop in intensive care numbers and 34 deaths total. Given the weaker healthcare down system it would have ripped through people like a scythe, I'm feeling really grateful that hasn't happened yet & there's still no sign.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 16:36:26 GMT
Regreening deserts sounds terrible tbh. why ? Because I'd like to think that would be a natural thing or happen in newly deforested areas. And it just sounds like a grand scheme like carbon offsettimg, ooh look we're doing this.....what about the pollution from the factories, cars etc but we're planting trees in deserts.... Just didn't sit right me with me tbh.
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Post by zerps on Mar 30, 2020 16:38:39 GMT
Saying that everyone is going to die is really helpful 😄 Perhaps people should vent their anger at the nobheads who are still using the tube like this. It's this selfish "I'll be OK" attitude that will result in more stringent restrictions being put in place. Why can't more people think about the bigger picture and other people rather than not wanting their own lives impacted. Can you prove they’re not key workers or carers? I’m classed as both as it happens.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 30, 2020 16:43:05 GMT
So then you take them on, head on. I wasn't blaming them for it, just saying it was curious, which it is. Their whole take on the environment and animals has to change though, it's so damaging. And we have to think about that too. Climate change is going to be a massive issue and we have to make changes. I've made my standpoint on the Americans food hygiene, I think it's disgusting and their whole system in general. Why anyone would want to align themselves with them I do now know. I think we agree on the need to address climate change and American food standards. Keep off the pangolin and stay safe. Whilst the ammout of blame placed at the door of the PRC for this virus has yet to be agreed I can confidently state they and there fellow South East asian cronies are mostly responsible for the decimation of African and Asian wildlife over the last thirty years or so For nothing else than superstitious quack medicine
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 16:43:22 GMT
Proper bike shops aren't open. Halfords is. Pains me to have to buy a bike for a 6 year old when I used to work in that industry myself. I have a garage full of bikes, scooters and cycle accessories but none in the size that would be suitable for my little one. Very annoying to say the very least! ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) I've bought a couple of bikes and a few odds & sods online from these, and always got what I thought was a fair deal.... Rutland linkTa. Know this business. Will pain me to buy a bike from anywhere to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 16:45:00 GMT
Save your money and go to a proper shop. Proper bike shops aren't open. Halfords is. Pains me to have to buy a bike for a 6 year old when I used to work in that industry myself. I have a garage full of bikes, scooters and cycle accessories but none in the size that would be suitable for my little one. Very annoying to say the very least! ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) It sounds like you appreciate the dislike of Halfords from cycling enthusiasts. It isn't the quality of the bikes (although some are really crap), but the ability of the "mechanics" that assemble the bikes (they all arrive at the store "flat pack"). We have all seen pics of bikes sold by Halfords with front forks the wrong way round .....
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 30, 2020 16:45:10 GMT
So then you take them on, head on. I wasn't blaming them for it, just saying it was curious, which it is. Their whole take on the environment and animals has to change though, it's so damaging. And we have to think about that too. Climate change is going to be a massive issue and we have to make changes. I've made my standpoint on the Americans food hygiene, I think it's disgusting and their whole system in general. Why anyone would want to align themselves with them I do now know. I can understand about the animals, but the environment is one area they are taking big strides to change isn't it, vast projects to move to clean energy and regreening deserts etc. ? People who know told me some of their environment problems are caused by the same issues that affected the whole coronavirus outbreak. The local CCP government often has different pressures than the national, e.g. national gov't limited coal but at the local ones knew they'd get punished for missing financial targets, and an easy way to hit those is to access cheap loans for a new coal plant. It sounds like there were basically loopholes. China's done amazing things with clean power & electric vehicles but could only slow down coal. Even so, the next decade looks like they'll see about 150 GW of new coal versus ~1,000 GW of renewables. I bet it was the same with corona in Wuhan: the local government tried to cover up because they didn't want to be punished for their province falling behind. The national government seems more competent, once the information got to the top levels they hit it hard. Kind of like on that HBO Chernobyl show.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 16:45:22 GMT
Proper bike shops aren't open. Halfords is. Pains me to have to buy a bike for a 6 year old when I used to work in that industry myself. I have a garage full of bikes, scooters and cycle accessories but none in the size that would be suitable for my little one. Very annoying to say the very least! ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) Can you not even use Evans online? Are they not still operating, or even local to us down here Swynertons or Rourkes? I don't live locally to stoke mate and Evans Cycles are owned by Mike Ashley.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 16:45:45 GMT
Can you not even use Evans online? Are they not still operating, or even local to us down here Swynertons or Rourkes? I don't live locally to stoke mate and Evans Cycles are owned by Mike Ashley. Really, since when? Edit. Just checked, nearly two effing years! Last time I use them!
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 30, 2020 16:46:40 GMT
Because I'd like to think that would be a natural thing or happen in newly deforested areas. And it just sounds like a grand scheme like carbon offsettimg, ooh look we're doing this.....what about the pollution from the factories, cars etc but we're planting trees in deserts.... Just didn't sit right me with me tbh. I think there trying to create a barrier across Africa to stop further spread and erosion caused by the Sahara
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 16:47:34 GMT
Proper bike shops aren't open. Halfords is. Pains me to have to buy a bike for a 6 year old when I used to work in that industry myself. I have a garage full of bikes, scooters and cycle accessories but none in the size that would be suitable for my little one. Very annoying to say the very least! ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif) It sounds like you appreciate the dislike of Halfords from cycling enthusiasts. It isn't the quality of the bikes (although some are really crap), but the ability of the "mechanics" that assemble the bikes (they all arrive at the store "flat pack"). We have all seen pics of bikes sold by Halfords with front forks the wrong way round ..... Absolutely. One thing I will say about halfords though, is that they pay their suppliers well and without the issues you get with the likes of Sports Direct, Tesco and others. I can also pick an option that I know originates from a Taiwanese rather than Chinese factory, assuming it is in stock.
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Post by yeokel on Mar 30, 2020 16:47:58 GMT
I've bought a couple of bikes and a few odds & sods online from these, and always got what I thought was a fair deal.... Rutland linkTa. Know this business. Will pain me to buy a bike from anywhere to be honest. Don't buy one then. Go and nick one instead ![B-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/GW5u7F6ZsL7YqNjCbXMk.gif)
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 16:50:21 GMT
Ta. Know this business. Will pain me to buy a bike from anywhere to be honest. Don't buy one then. Go and nick one instead ![B-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/GW5u7F6ZsL7YqNjCbXMk.gif) I hadn't thought of that 👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 16:50:52 GMT
Because I'd like to think that would be a natural thing or happen in newly deforested areas. And it just sounds like a grand scheme like carbon offsettimg, ooh look we're doing this.....what about the pollution from the factories, cars etc but we're planting trees in deserts.... Just didn't sit right me with me tbh. I think there trying to create a barrier across Africa to stop further spread and erosion caused by the Sahara Christ really? Again, a noble gesture but not really stopping the real issue of what's causing it and being done for the entire wrong reasons like most of the thing they do in Africa are. And yes that's totally hypocritical because it what we did too. I know that.
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Post by Northy on Mar 30, 2020 16:51:02 GMT
Because I'd like to think that would be a natural thing or happen in newly deforested areas. And it just sounds like a grand scheme like carbon offsettimg, ooh look we're doing this.....what about the pollution from the factories, cars etc but we're planting trees in deserts.... Just didn't sit right me with me tbh. Lots of areas have ben planted with crops, and areas that have been turned into forests and wildlife oasis check out the H&S on this one ![B-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/GW5u7F6ZsL7YqNjCbXMk.gif) Plenty of stuff going on, it's just not about carbon offsetting, their factories produce most of the worlds shit, so we are half to blame for sleep walking into it, new vineyards halting the advance of the gobi desert
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2020 16:54:12 GMT
Because I'd like to think that would be a natural thing or happen in newly deforested areas. And it just sounds like a grand scheme like carbon offsettimg, ooh look we're doing this.....what about the pollution from the factories, cars etc but we're planting trees in deserts.... Just didn't sit right me with me tbh. Lots of areas have ben planted with crops, and areas that have been turned into forests and wildlife oasis check out the H&S on this one ![B-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/GW5u7F6ZsL7YqNjCbXMk.gif) Plenty of stuff going on, it's just not about carbon offsetting, their factories produce most of the worlds shit, so we are half to blame for sleep walking into it, new vineyards halting the advance of the gobi desert It is amazing tbh. But still missing the point to a massive extent. And like I've said, it is just China that needs to do more, we all do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 17:00:01 GMT
It sounds like you appreciate the dislike of Halfords from cycling enthusiasts. It isn't the quality of the bikes (although some are really crap), but the ability of the "mechanics" that assemble the bikes (they all arrive at the store "flat pack"). We have all seen pics of bikes sold by Halfords with front forks the wrong way round ..... Absolutely. One thing I will say about halfords though, is that they pay their suppliers well and without the issues you get with the likes of Sports Direct, Tesco and others. Is Decathlon still open and trading? I bought a touring bike from one of their stores (Coventry) about six years ago. I still shake my head and wonder how they could sell such a high spec bike at the price. Over six years I have never had a hint of a problem with the bike. Came with click gears, mudguards, lights and "dynamo", comfy saddle, rack ..... everything really.
For anyone reading this post who might be considering buying a bike (for excercise) - do not not touch BSOs sold cheaply by supermarkets.
BSO = "Bicycle Shaped Objects".
EDIT: having thought about it, I did change the saddle for an even more "comfy" saddle. I switched the pedals to clipless.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 30, 2020 17:02:13 GMT
All very well and good saying the plan to isolate only the most vulnerable was the most appropriate, in theory yes it works but in practice? Nothing changed, oldies were still going to pubs right up until mandated shutdown, people still visiting elderly relatives having parties and whatnot. It was completely unworkable and the British public demonstrated as much. Johnson repeatedly said he didn’t want to impose lockdowns and the public repeatedly demonstrated they weren’t capable.
All we can be is vigilant and hold the government to account that these laws and acts will be repealed as quick as possible when this is over. Which, this being the UK i have confidence over.
I find it humorous that lockdown was allegedly the “globalist plan” when notorious Anti-Globalist Viktor Orban in Hungary has just managed to give himself sole rule of the nation for however long he sees fit and cancelled any elections via a state of emergency decree with no time limit.
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Post by musik on Mar 30, 2020 17:03:06 GMT
Latest
Some of the pub, night club and restaurant owners in Stockholm don't understand the max 50-rule. Interviewed on National TV: "50? What do they mean? I can't live on 50 guests! So I don't understand what they mean" (business as usual,hundreds of guests)
Reporter: "Do you understand people's worry about The Corona virus?" Female Night club visitor: "In a way yes, if you have it. But I haven't got it. Why should I worry? I don't see why."
And now several old people have got Corona in Homes for the elderly, even though they don't get visits, I guess?! But the staff in different homes have it now and transmit it to the old. How come? They aren't tested.
Some call it Liberalism.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 17:06:33 GMT
Doesn't sound like the antibody test is imminent from the latest soundbite in that press conference.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 30, 2020 17:08:27 GMT
Doesn't sound like the antibody test is imminent from the latest soundbite in that press conference. They probably are aware of how anticipated it is and how there appeared to be a bit of a breakdown in communication last week between Whitty and the Director of the Infection last week where she seemed to indicate it would be “days” away. Probably being extra cautious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 17:11:17 GMT
Doesn't sound like the antibody test is imminent from the latest soundbite in that press conference. They probably are aware of how anticipated it is and how there appeared to be a bit of a breakdown in communication last week between Whitty and the Director of the Infection last week where she seemed to indicate it would be “days” away. Probably being extra cautious. You'd imagine it's a couple of weeks away at least. Shame that. By the time its available to the masses, we may have missed the window where it would have been most valuable. Although it will still be crucial, no matter how long it takes.
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Post by stokeson on Mar 30, 2020 17:24:26 GMT
When are the Gov going to stop "RAMPING UP" and start delivering PPE /Ventilators ect... lot of talk .lot of Ramping but not much to see.................
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 30, 2020 17:24:43 GMT
Absolutely. One thing I will say about halfords though, is that they pay their suppliers well and without the issues you get with the likes of Sports Direct, Tesco and others. Is Decathlon still open and trading? I bought a touring bike from one of their stores (Coventry) about six years ago. I still shake my head and wonder how they could sell such a high spec bike at the price. Over six years I have never had a hint of a problem with the bike. Came with click gears, mudguards, lights and "dynamo", comfy saddle, rack ..... everything really.
For anyone reading this post who might be considering buying a bike (for excercise) - do not not touch BSOs sold cheaply by supermarkets. BSO = "Bicycle Shaped Objects". EDIT: having thought about it, I did change the saddle for an even more "comfy" saddle. I switched the pedals to clipless.
Yeah. Decathlon are a french owned business. Bulk of their bikes, certainly adult ones, are from Taiwanese factories.
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 30, 2020 17:29:48 GMT
medium.com/@greenrupertread/the-coronavirus-letter-youve-just-been-sent-by-johnson-is-a-lie-transcript-824e71aa73bDr. Rupert Read The coronavirus letter you’ve just been sent by Johnson is a lie [00:00:00] Fellow citizens of this great country of Britain, I’m here to tell you that you’re about to be deceived deliberately by your own government. [00:00:11] A letter will soon come through your door from them, telling you that unless you get more serious about locking down, the government is going to tighten the lockdown that we are all under. They are trying to put the blame on you for this public health disaster of the Coronavirus and for the lockdown needed, it is indeed needed, in response to that disaster. In the letter, Prime Minister Johnson says, quote, “From the start, we, the government have sought to put in the right measures at the right time”. [00:00:42] The truth is very different. The truth is that the government have, for two months, systematically flouted World Health Organisation advice on how to deal with this pandemic and that in some respects they are still doing so now. [00:00:58] My name is Dr Rupert Read, a few weeks ago, I coordinated a letter; a version of which was published in The Daily Mail. It was signed by the editor of Britain’s foremost medical journal, The Lancet, and by the former chair of the House of Commons Science Select Committee. Now the government should have acted well before receiving our letter. They should have moved already to stop flights coming in from Italy and China. They should have quarantined those possibly having the virus. They should have ordered in ventilators and personal protective equipment for carers. They should have begun a mass program of testing. They should have provided enough to live on to all those tempted to work sick. But even after receiving a letter and even after being told firmly by the World Health Organisation that they were letting everyone down through their inactivity, they still did virtually nothing. [00:01:50] Now, of course, I’m not saying that dealing with this virus crisis is easy. Far from it. I don’t envy the governments and their advisers in their unprecedented task here. But the unprecedentedness of the task is exactly why we needed them to take strong action to protect us and to stay ahead of the curve and exactly why you deserve honesty from them now. The truth is, we didn’t get what we deserve. We didn’t get strong action to protect us. Instead, they wasted weeks on end and then cooked up their utterly disastrous herd immunity plan to infect most of us with this sometimes-deadly disease. And we’re still not getting honesty about all this now. The government are not telling us the truth about why a harsher lockdown may be needed. [00:02:44] South Korea came through this with no lockdown at all because they acted fast ahead of the virus to mass test, to contact trace, to physically distance. Think about that. South Korea showed the way. The difference between them and us; government policy. [00:03:05] The truth is that a hard lockdown is needed now, not for the reason the government is insinuating; they’re trying to blame us, the people, for the mess they created. Do not let Johnson get away with putting the blame for this horrific crisis that we’re now in, on you. The truth is that they, the government, are primarily to blame for the tsunami of infections and the torrent of deaths that Britain is still at the relatively early stages of. They, the government, have not done their first job. They have not protected us. A well-placed source has indicated to colleagues of mine that the Chief Medical Officer was ready some time ago to put in place tougher measures for physical distancing and so on and that these were vetoed at the last minute by the Prime Minister. A Prime Minister who showed leadership by shaking hands with hospital patients in a hospital where they were Coronavirus cases just a few weeks ago. [00:04:06] Now, if you happen to be someone who has privileged information that you could use to blow the whistle on the full truth about what our own government has done to us, then please go to www.truthteller.life. We all deserve to know the full facts. [00:04:26] We the people have led in this country and we’ve dragged our reluctant government behind us. That’s the truth. We led by pushing the government finally to act. We led already before that, many millions of us, by cancelling events, working from home, initiating physical distancing, before the government had done anything significant to protect us. And we’re leading now by being there for each other, by supporting our beloved NHS and by demanding that our carers get the personal protective equipment they so desperately need and deserve. We refused to go quietly and meekly into the tsunami of suffering that is coming, a torrent of death that is coming because our government fiddled while the world started to burn. And because for a while, our government’s ludicrous and deadly herd immunity plan meant that we had the most inactive and indeed actively harmful government policy in the whole world on the Coronavirus pandemic. [00:05:29] Why does all this matter? Am I just crying over spilt milk? It matters because thousands are dying unnecessarily and it matters because we’re still only at the relatively early stages of this emergency and we’re going to need much better leadership to get through it. We will get through this, though not before the government’s prevarication has cost large numbers of British lives. We’ll get through this together. And when we got through it, we’ll memorialize the dead by making damn sure that nothing like this deadly fiasco can ever happen again. And to make sure of that, we’ll need to start with a full public inquiry into how our government came to have the worst policy of inaction on Coronavirus in the whole world; a policy that will have killed many of our loved ones. A policy that means that a harsh and knock-down lockdown may indeed now be necessary. [00:06:27] It is government policy which has led to the desperate situation we are now in. If a fuller lockdown comes, this will be because they did not act and they must take responsibility for that. They must take responsibility for the need for any harsher lockdown soon to come. [00:06:52] Thank you for watching. If you agree with this video, then please share it. And please stay safe. When the government doesn’t protect, we the people have to lead the way. He comes across as a raving nut case. What's with all the timings in the left margin? And the virtually impossible to read solid blocks of text? Never trust people who write with too little white space on the page. That’s what my granny used to tell me. Well,........ ......She didn’t, actually. But she would have been right, if she had. The only white space this bloke has an affiliation to is between his ears, I think. I would not on principle take advice or instruction from a scruffy looking individual like that at any time. Looks deranged to me.
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Post by stokeson on Mar 30, 2020 17:34:43 GMT
He comes across as a raving nut case. What's with all the timings in the left margin? And the virtually impossible to read solid blocks of text? Never trust people who write with too little white space on the page. That’s what my granny used to tell me. Well,........ ......She didn’t, actually. But she would have been right, if she had. The only white space this bloke has an affiliation to is between his ears, I think. I would not on principle take advice or instruction from a scruffy looking individual like that at any time. Looks deranged to me. Dominic Cummings?
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 30, 2020 17:39:02 GMT
Him too.
There is no excuse for delivering what you feel to be an important message, on a visual medium, whilst looking as though you've been dragged through a hedge backwards.
To think that there was a time when BBC Newsreaders would wear Evening dress, including bow tie, to deliver the RADIO news.
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