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Post by superjw on Mar 5, 2023 19:28:26 GMT
You were hoaxed. The test, the scares, the numbers, the causes of death, all hoaxed. And I told you. As I've said previously. Vindication day after day for those of us who were vilified and ridiculed for daring to question the narrative and stating the obvious about mask wearing and natural immunity. "Deploy the new variant", I always said how convenient one would come around just when it was needed, just when people started to get a little complacent. It was "the science" don't you know?! Oh yes I remember this variant, came around with absolutely perfect timing didn’t it - well turns out things in a pandemic can be perfectly timed when orchestrated…
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Post by henry on Mar 5, 2023 19:29:15 GMT
Gosh, who'd have thought this thread was just an echo chamber of the 20% or so who've convinced themselves that it was all a massive con... I recall Bianco trying to tell me not that long ago that he was reflective of the majority of public opinion. I wasn't having it. Seems I was right. I also recall telling Starkiller back in March 2020 or so that we'd all be looking back in a couple of years time and all the controls would be rolled back and freedoms returned and that his "never-ending, dystopian, global power grab, sham pandemic" stuff would be looking pretty daft. I wasn't wrong there, either. You know what, mistakes were made, the science was constantly evolving, decisions were based on partial evidence and the government made a pretty poor job of managing the whole thing, but none of that means it was anything more sinister than what it was: a global pandemic, one of many that has affected mankind on a regular basis throughout its history and had far-reaching effects. Apologies for disturbing your circle jerk, pray continue... What a bizarre rant. All those stats show is the gullible nature of young people and how easily coercive they are to government tyranny and social media pressure. Well not the only thing but I found that to be the most stark stat Spot on. The young are sitting ducks.
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Post by henry on Mar 5, 2023 19:33:06 GMT
What's that old saying, something along the lines of "It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled"? These figures are staggering... Gosh, who'd have thought this thread was just an echo chamber of the 20% or so who've convinced themselves that it was all a massive con... I recall Bianco trying to tell me not that long ago that he was reflective of the majority of public opinion. I wasn't having it. Seems I was right. I also recall telling Starkiller back in March 2020 or so that we'd all be looking back in a couple of years time and all the controls would be rolled back and freedoms returned and that his "never-ending, dystopian, global power grab, sham pandemic" stuff would be looking pretty daft. I wasn't wrong there, either. You know what, mistakes were made, the science was constantly evolving, decisions were based on partial evidence and the government made a pretty poor job of managing the whole thing, but none of that means it was anything more sinister than what it was: a global pandemic, one of many that has affected mankind on a regular basis throughout its history and had far-reaching effects. Apologies for disturbing your circle jerk, pray continue... Circle jerk, the fucking irony.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 19:38:57 GMT
Gosh, who'd have thought this thread was just an echo chamber of the 20% or so who've convinced themselves that it was all a massive con... I recall Bianco trying to tell me not that long ago that he was reflective of the majority of public opinion. I wasn't having it. Seems I was right. I also recall telling Starkiller back in March 2020 or so that we'd all be looking back in a couple of years time and all the controls would be rolled back and freedoms returned and that his "never-ending, dystopian, global power grab, sham pandemic" stuff would be looking pretty daft. I wasn't wrong there, either. You know what, mistakes were made, the science was constantly evolving, decisions were based on partial evidence and the government made a pretty poor job of managing the whole thing, but none of that means it was anything more sinister than what it was: a global pandemic, one of many that has affected mankind on a regular basis throughout its history and had far-reaching effects. Apologies for disturbing your circle jerk, pray continue... The problem is two issues are being conflated Many people who are now appalled at the contemt with which this Government holds the general population laid bare, were amongst many of the people who were content to defend Government on many other occasions, even defending Partygate Matt Hancock deciding to force school children to wear Facemasks to avoid a row with Sturgeon is a Political Decision Boris Johnson chortling at a couple being fined £10,000 is just the character of the man The head of the Civil Serice taking glee at people with more wherewithal than himself being accommodated in a class below their norm just betrays his character None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 5, 2023 20:07:51 GMT
Gosh, who'd have thought this thread was just an echo chamber of the 20% or so who've convinced themselves that it was all a massive con... I recall Bianco trying to tell me not that long ago that he was reflective of the majority of public opinion. I wasn't having it. Seems I was right. I also recall telling Starkiller back in March 2020 or so that we'd all be looking back in a couple of years time and all the controls would be rolled back and freedoms returned and that his "never-ending, dystopian, global power grab, sham pandemic" stuff would be looking pretty daft. I wasn't wrong there, either. You know what, mistakes were made, the science was constantly evolving, decisions were based on partial evidence and the government made a pretty poor job of managing the whole thing, but none of that means it was anything more sinister than what it was: a global pandemic, one of many that has affected mankind on a regular basis throughout its history and had far-reaching effects. Apologies for disturbing your circle jerk, pray continue... What a bizarre rant. All those stats show is the gullible nature of young people and how easily coercive they are to government tyranny and social media pressure. Well not the only thing but I found that to be the most stark stat The starkest stat for me is that less than 20% of all ages think like the contributors to this thread, which is quite refreshing to see. This doesn't really surprise me I have to say as I've always thought this thread was a museum piece of mutually self-affirmative confirmation bias. But I agree that the youth response is interesting, you'd think that they'd be most affected by the restrictions and therefore most pissed off. But with this result and similar with regard to Brexit, perhaps the future direction of the UK is in good hands? We just need all the dinosaurs to shuffle off (winky thing).
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 5, 2023 20:20:51 GMT
What a bizarre rant. All those stats show is the gullible nature of young people and how easily coercive they are to government tyranny and social media pressure. Well not the only thing but I found that to be the most stark stat The starkest stat for me is that less than 20% of all ages think like the contributors to this thread, which is quite refreshing to see. This doesn't really surprise me I have to say as I've always thought this thread was a museum piece of mutually self-affirmative confirmation bias. But I agree that the youth response is interesting, you'd think that they'd be most affected by the restrictions and therefore most pissed off. But with this result and similar with regard to Brexit, perhaps the future direction of the UK is in good hands? We just need all the dinosaurs to shuffle off (winky thing). It tells me that 20% of the population have their own mind and are not easily coerced into government propaganda and social media bullshit which is deeply worrying. The fact that you live in the world of the 80% doesn’t surprise me one bit
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Post by Davef on Mar 5, 2023 20:52:45 GMT
I'll bet this nutcase was all for lockdowns as well.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 20:59:24 GMT
What a bizarre rant. All those stats show is the gullible nature of young people and how easily coercive they are to government tyranny and social media pressure. Well not the only thing but I found that to be the most stark stat The starkest stat for me is that less than 20% of all ages think like the contributors to this thread, which is quite refreshing to see. This doesn't really surprise me I have to say as I've always thought this thread was a museum piece of mutually self-affirmative confirmation bias. But I agree that the youth response is interesting, you'd think that they'd be most affected by the restrictions and therefore most pissed off. But with this result and similar with regard to Brexit, perhaps the future direction of the UK is in good hands? We just need all the dinosaurs to shuffle off (winky thing). “Refreshing to see…” Far from it for me, shows the paucity of critical thought and a susceptibility to behavioural science manipulation This “pandemic” (and we are still in it if you still believe the supposed foremost authority) has seen one of the greatest wealth transfers in history and because people got a few quid for doing nothing they accepted it. Amazing how many of those circle jerkers and conspiracy theorists were actually right. Maybe if “the science” had actually tried to defend “the science” through reasoned debate rather than through coercion and manipulation we’d all be in a better place.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 21:01:01 GMT
Gosh, who'd have thought this thread was just an echo chamber of the 20% or so who've convinced themselves that it was all a massive con... I recall Bianco trying to tell me not that long ago that he was reflective of the majority of public opinion. I wasn't having it. Seems I was right. I also recall telling Starkiller back in March 2020 or so that we'd all be looking back in a couple of years time and all the controls would be rolled back and freedoms returned and that his "never-ending, dystopian, global power grab, sham pandemic" stuff would be looking pretty daft. I wasn't wrong there, either. You know what, mistakes were made, the science was constantly evolving, decisions were based on partial evidence and the government made a pretty poor job of managing the whole thing, but none of that means it was anything more sinister than what it was: a global pandemic, one of many that has affected mankind on a regular basis throughout its history and had far-reaching effects. Apologies for disturbing your circle jerk, pray continue... The problem is two issues are being conflated Many people who are now appalled at the contemt with which this Government holds the general population laid bare, were amongst many of the people who were content to defend Government on many other occasions, even defending Partygate Matt Hancock deciding to force school children to wear Facemasks to avoid a row with Sturgeon is a Political Decision Boris Johnson chortling at a couple being fined £10,000 is just the character of the man The head of the Civil Serice taking glee at people with more wherewithal than himself being accommodated in a class below their norm just betrays his character None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are. Absolute wankers but this is patently untrue: None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 5, 2023 21:14:46 GMT
I'll bet this nutcase was all for lockdowns as well. What nutcase?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 5, 2023 21:15:45 GMT
The starkest stat for me is that less than 20% of all ages think like the contributors to this thread, which is quite refreshing to see. This doesn't really surprise me I have to say as I've always thought this thread was a museum piece of mutually self-affirmative confirmation bias. But I agree that the youth response is interesting, you'd think that they'd be most affected by the restrictions and therefore most pissed off. But with this result and similar with regard to Brexit, perhaps the future direction of the UK is in good hands? We just need all the dinosaurs to shuffle off (winky thing). “Refreshing to see…” Far from it for me, shows the paucity of critical thought and a susceptibility to behavioural science manipulation This “pandemic” (and we are still in it if you still believe the supposed foremost authority) has seen one of the greatest wealth transfers in history and because people got a few quid for doing nothing they accepted it. Amazing how many of those circle jerkers and conspiracy theorists were actually right. Maybe if “the science” had actually tried to defend “the science” through reasoned debate rather than through coercion and manipulation we’d all be in a better place. Absolutely spot on
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 22:33:09 GMT
The problem is two issues are being conflated Many people who are now appalled at the contemt with which this Government holds the general population laid bare, were amongst many of the people who were content to defend Government on many other occasions, even defending Partygate Matt Hancock deciding to force school children to wear Facemasks to avoid a row with Sturgeon is a Political Decision Boris Johnson chortling at a couple being fined £10,000 is just the character of the man The head of the Civil Serice taking glee at people with more wherewithal than himself being accommodated in a class below their norm just betrays his character None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are. Absolute wankers but this is patently untrue: None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are. Maybe my selection of wording could have been clearer A Covid Epidemic existed ..... unless you disagree It was a "Novel" disease meaning never seen before UK was ill prepared for a "traditional" Epidemic never mind a novel one. It is now and then unclear precisely when and how the disease manifested in China Taiwan with it's very close proximity and monitoring of China, for obvious reasons, was one of the first Countries to lock down with very good outcomes www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-topsy-turvy-end-of-zero-covid-in-taiwanThe first evidence of widespread Covid and its implications in Europe first became evident in Italy An ill prepared and Dysfunctional Johnson Government first followed the Herd Immunity Policy, since denied, and allowed Superspreader Events e.g. Cheltenham, Football, Inward Travel etc to continue Who or what decided adults in the room to change policy from Herd Immunity to Containment is not entirely clear but was certainly behind the messaging of "Save the NHS" I shall await the outcome of the "Covid Enquiry" to judge if the policy to release elderly but generally well patients potentially asymptomatic but with Covid to rampantly spread the disease amongst the most vulnerable in Society Having a collection of incompetents in charge was obviously unhelpful to say the least and they became intoxicated with their power. Do not also overlook the Profit Motive, which may never be fully properly investigated which involves Billions of £s through Government and Private Enterprise Fraud I have deliberately avoided this Thread due to its toxic and inconclusive nature By all means be angry, as I am, but be careful who your anger is directed towards and why.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 22:45:51 GMT
The starkest stat for me is that less than 20% of all ages think like the contributors to this thread, which is quite refreshing to see. This doesn't really surprise me I have to say as I've always thought this thread was a museum piece of mutually self-affirmative confirmation bias. But I agree that the youth response is interesting, you'd think that they'd be most affected by the restrictions and therefore most pissed off. But with this result and similar with regard to Brexit, perhaps the future direction of the UK is in good hands? We just need all the dinosaurs to shuffle off (winky thing). “Refreshing to see…” Far from it for me, shows the paucity of critical thought and a susceptibility to behavioural science manipulation This “pandemic” (and we are still in it if you still believe the supposed foremost authority) has seen one of the greatest wealth transfers in history and because people got a few quid for doing nothing they accepted it. Amazing how many of those circle jerkers and conspiracy theorists were actually right. Maybe if “the science” had actually tried to defend “the science” through reasoned debate rather than through coercion and manipulation we’d all be in a better place. Apologies, I was replying to your reply to me in ad breaks while watching Endeavour and I didn't see this. There is no such thing as "The Science" . Epidemiologists, Medical Clinicians and Statisticians examine the facts available to them and advise Government of the probability of outcome Governments then make POLITICAL DECISIONS consistent or inconsistent with the scenarios presented to them
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 22:54:04 GMT
Absolute wankers but this is patently untrue: None of these directly relate to Covid and it just shows what a bunch of Wankers they are. Maybe my selection of wording could have been clearer A Covid Epidemic existed ..... unless you disagree It was a "Novel" disease meaning never seen before UK was ill prepared for a "traditional" Epidemic never mind a novel one. It is now and then unclear precisely when and how the disease manifested in China Taiwan with it's very close proximity and monitoring of China, for obvious reasons, was one of the first Countries to lock down with very good outcomes www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-topsy-turvy-end-of-zero-covid-in-taiwanThe first evidence of widespread Covid and its implications in Europe first became evident in Italy An ill prepared and Dysfunctional Johnson Government first followed the Herd Immunity Policy, since denied, and allowed Superspreader Events e.g. Cheltenham, Football, Inward Travel etc to continue Who or what decided adults in the room to change policy from Herd Immunity to Containment is not entirely clear but was certainly behind the messaging of "Save the NHS" I shall await the outcome of the "Covid Enquiry" to judge if the policy to release elderly but generally well patients potentially asymptomatic but with Covid to rampantly spread the disease amongst the most vulnerable in Society Having a collection of incompetents in charge was obviously unhelpful to say the least and they became intoxicated with their power. Do not also overlook the Profit Motive, which may never be fully properly investigated which involves Billions of £s through Government and Private Enterprise Fraud I have deliberately avoided this Thread due to its toxic and inconclusive nature By all means be angry, as I am, but be careful who your anger is directed towards and why. [br My anger is directed at everyone who allowed this to happen without reasoned debate, it’s not aimed at any one individual, party, country or organisation I want reasoned debate and accountability for errors that have happened and continue to happen so that we can avoid this in the future. The greatest transfer of wealth in history happened under this “pandemic” and very few (especially those who will be most affected by it, the working class) did anything to question it, in fact many were complicit in aiding it. It’s a disgrace that there’s 6.6 billion quids worth of unused or unusable PPE in storage, costing over 300k a day to store. Nurses teachers bus drivers etc needing to use food banks because they aren’t paid properly but while the great wealth transfer happened no one said boo because we were saving granny! I’m actually amazed there’s anyone left that thinks lockdowns were a good idea I thought China was going to see millions die when they opened up, maybe I’ve just missed it…
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2023 22:55:21 GMT
So lads where are we all at now on this stuff. This isn't me taking the piss or anything either by the way, but as someone not so invested in all the covid hype, I do have stuff I'd love to know the answers too.
So is the general consensus that covid is real and did exist or do people believe it was made up and just a flu?
Do people believe the vaccine was made with good intentions to cure said vaccine. Or do they think there was a ulterior motive? And people got injected with stuff which will likely kill them?
Based on people's answers and views on the above. Where do they stand with the likes of the Ukraine/Russia conflict? As obviously Russia also did lockdowns and vaccines, as did China. I don't think they'd do this unless they believed it themselves. So does that mean Russia and China where in on "scamdemic" and if so do people then believe the Ukraine conflict is also some sort of scam and not real? As in world leaders colluding together with another motive?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 22:56:06 GMT
“Refreshing to see…” Far from it for me, shows the paucity of critical thought and a susceptibility to behavioural science manipulation This “pandemic” (and we are still in it if you still believe the supposed foremost authority) has seen one of the greatest wealth transfers in history and because people got a few quid for doing nothing they accepted it. Amazing how many of those circle jerkers and conspiracy theorists were actually right. Maybe if “the science” had actually tried to defend “the science” through reasoned debate rather than through coercion and manipulation we’d all be in a better place. Apologies, I was replying to your reply to me in ad breaks while watching Endeavour and I didn't see this. There is no such thing as "The Science" . Epidemiologists, Medical Clinicians and Statisticians examine the facts available to them and advise Government of the probability of outcome Governments then make POLITICAL DECISIONS consistent or inconsistent with the scenarios presented to them Exactly but tell that to one Anthony Fauci…
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2023 22:59:56 GMT
Maybe my selection of wording could have been clearer A Covid Epidemic existed ..... unless you disagree It was a "Novel" disease meaning never seen before UK was ill prepared for a "traditional" Epidemic never mind a novel one. It is now and then unclear precisely when and how the disease manifested in China Taiwan with it's very close proximity and monitoring of China, for obvious reasons, was one of the first Countries to lock down with very good outcomes www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-topsy-turvy-end-of-zero-covid-in-taiwanThe first evidence of widespread Covid and its implications in Europe first became evident in Italy An ill prepared and Dysfunctional Johnson Government first followed the Herd Immunity Policy, since denied, and allowed Superspreader Events e.g. Cheltenham, Football, Inward Travel etc to continue Who or what decided adults in the room to change policy from Herd Immunity to Containment is not entirely clear but was certainly behind the messaging of "Save the NHS" I shall await the outcome of the "Covid Enquiry" to judge if the policy to release elderly but generally well patients potentially asymptomatic but with Covid to rampantly spread the disease amongst the most vulnerable in Society Having a collection of incompetents in charge was obviously unhelpful to say the least and they became intoxicated with their power. Do not also overlook the Profit Motive, which may never be fully properly investigated which involves Billions of £s through Government and Private Enterprise Fraud I have deliberately avoided this Thread due to its toxic and inconclusive nature By all means be angry, as I am, but be careful who your anger is directed towards and why. The greatest transfer of wealth in history happened under this “pandemic” Is there a source for this? I'm not doubting you, I'm just interested in the actual figures. Inequality has been sharply rising for years, espesically across the last decade in the UK. From a financial perspective though I think the 08 crash hit working families worse than covid did. Although maybe that also hit the super wealthy just as bad.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 23:00:47 GMT
“Refreshing to see…” Far from it for me, shows the paucity of critical thought and a susceptibility to behavioural science manipulation This “pandemic” (and we are still in it if you still believe the supposed foremost authority) has seen one of the greatest wealth transfers in history and because people got a few quid for doing nothing they accepted it. Amazing how many of those circle jerkers and conspiracy theorists were actually right. Maybe if “the science” had actually tried to defend “the science” through reasoned debate rather than through coercion and manipulation we’d all be in a better place. Apologies, I was replying to your reply to me in ad breaks while watching Endeavour and I didn't see this. There is no such thing as "The Science" . Epidemiologists, Medical Clinicians and Statisticians examine the facts available to them and advise Government of the probability of outcome Governments then make POLITICAL DECISIONS consistent or inconsistent with the scenarios presented to them You’re making my argument for me. The government used a discredited idiot (my sentiments) in Ferguson who couldn’t model underpants to make their decision and rebuffed other voices and contrary positions, so they decided that was “the science” Why Ferguson hasn’t been censured and castigated is beyond belief together with the pathetic governments worldwide would used similar “science” to justify their decisions
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 23:02:46 GMT
The greatest transfer of wealth in history happened under this “pandemic” Is there a source for this? I'm not doubting you, I'm just interested in the actual figures. Inequality has been sharply rising for years, espesically across the last decade in the UK. From a financial perspective though I think the 08 crash hit working families worse than covid did. Although maybe that also hit the super wealthy just as bad. Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 23:05:59 GMT
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2023 23:10:16 GMT
Is there a source for this? I'm not doubting you, I'm just interested in the actual figures. Inequality has been sharply rising for years, espesically across the last decade in the UK. From a financial perspective though I think the 08 crash hit working families worse than covid did. Although maybe that also hit the super wealthy just as bad. Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. I think a lot of people who may have been in support of lockdowns where also incredibly critical of the government's spending during covid. The fact that no tendering was required for huge contracts was a massive red flag. Furlough as well was another ridiculous thing considering JSA is meant to be enough for me if I lose my job tomorrow, why was it suddenly not enough for those who couldn't work in Pandemic. And then there was the furlough fruad too which the tories voted against investigating I believe. Where companies were claiming the money while having staff work. And similarly a lot of people on furlough where getting second jobs and earning mad amounts while getting up to 30 of the gov too. There are a lot of anti covid people out there that still defended, and defend, the Conservative government and don't hold them to account for their actions and corruption. Some were even defending party gate while big Boris was having a laugh at their expense on WhatsApp.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 23:14:43 GMT
Apologies, I was replying to your reply to me in ad breaks while watching Endeavour and I didn't see this. There is no such thing as "The Science" . Epidemiologists, Medical Clinicians and Statisticians examine the facts available to them and advise Government of the probability of outcome Governments then make POLITICAL DECISIONS consistent or inconsistent with the scenarios presented to them You’re making my argument for me.
The government used a discredited idiot (my sentiments) in Ferguson who couldn’t model underpants to make their decision and rebuffed other voices and contrary positions, so they decided that was “the science” Why Ferguson hasn’t been censured and castigated is beyond belief together with the pathetic governments worldwide would used similar “science” to justify their decisions If I am perhaps I'm agreeing with you on certain points For the record Neil Ferguson resigned from the "Covid Science Team" precisely for removing his underpants in a place he shouldn't have removed them on 5th May 2020 There are many other Villains in this piece and most of them held Political Office
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 23:17:16 GMT
Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. I think a lot of people who may have been in support of lockdowns where also incredibly critical of the government's spending during covid. The fact that no tendering was required for huge contracts was a massive red flag. Furlough as well was another ridiculous thing considering JSA is meant to be enough for me if I lose my job tomorrow, why was it suddenly not enough for those who couldn't work in Pandemic. And then there was the furlough fruad too which the tories voted against investigating I believe. Where companies were claiming the money while having staff work. And similarly a lot of people on furlough where getting second jobs and earning mad amounts while getting up to 30 of the gov too. There are a lot of anti covid people out there that still defended, and defend, the Conservative government and don't hold them to account for their actions and corruption. Some were even defending party gate while big Boris was having a laugh at their expense on WhatsApp. I couldn’t give a fuck about the right or left, I see myself as a cynical libertarian. Whether by accident or design there has been the biggest wealth transfer and abuse of personal liberties during covid and people still can’t see it. It happened worldwide in countries with left, right and centre governments. But it’s an indisputable fact that the working and middle classes have bourne and will continue to bear the greatest brunt.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 5, 2023 23:25:36 GMT
You’re making my argument for me.
The government used a discredited idiot (my sentiments) in Ferguson who couldn’t model underpants to make their decision and rebuffed other voices and contrary positions, so they decided that was “the science” Why Ferguson hasn’t been censured and castigated is beyond belief together with the pathetic governments worldwide would used similar “science” to justify their decisions If I am perhaps I'm agreeing with you on certain points For the record Neil Ferguson resigned from the "Covid Science Team" precisely for removing his underpants in a place he shouldn't have removed them on 5th May 2020 There are many other Villains in this piece and most of them held Political Office “precisely for removing his underpant…” That made me laugh but also copperfastened the ridiculous of it all, he obviously didn’t think it was very deadly. I also think after that the MSM continued to seek out his views on covid (rather than illicit sexual dalliances 😆)
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 23:38:20 GMT
Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. I think a lot of people who may have been in support of lockdowns where also incredibly critical of the government's spending during covid. The fact that no tendering was required for huge contracts was a massive red flag. Furlough as well was another ridiculous thing considering JSA is meant to be enough for me if I lose my job tomorrow, why was it suddenly not enough for those who couldn't work in Pandemic. And then there was the furlough fruad too which the tories voted against investigating I believe. Where companies were claiming the money while having staff work. And similarly a lot of people on furlough where getting second jobs and earning mad amounts while getting up to 30 of the gov too. There are a lot of anti covid people out there that still defended, and defend, the Conservative government and don't hold them to account for their actions and corruption. Some were even defending party gate while big Boris was having a laugh at their expense on WhatsApp. You believe wrong, there was no Tory Vote Rishi Sunak shut down in October 2022 the impressive sounding Treasury "Covid Taxpayer Recovery Fund" which he had staffed with Nincompoops who couldn’t find there arse with both hands. He refused to allow the National Crime Agency to get involved in the investigation estimated to have cost Taxpayers anywhere between £4.8Bn and £30Bn
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2023 23:43:27 GMT
If I am perhaps I'm agreeing with you on certain points For the record Neil Ferguson resigned from the "Covid Science Team" precisely for removing his underpants in a place he shouldn't have removed them on 5th May 2020 There are many other Villains in this piece and most of them held Political Office “precisely for removing his underpant…” That made me laugh but also copperfastened the ridiculous of it all, he obviously didn’t think it was very deadly. I also think after that the MSM continued to seek out his views on covid (rather than illicit sexual dalliances 😆) It's amazing what risks people will take when in the throws of Passion, as Neil and Matt will attest too
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2023 23:46:09 GMT
Is there a source for this? I'm not doubting you, I'm just interested in the actual figures. Inequality has been sharply rising for years, espesically across the last decade in the UK. From a financial perspective though I think the 08 crash hit working families worse than covid did. Although maybe that also hit the super wealthy just as bad. Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. Seen your articles and some of them reference this report too - www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/ten-richest-men-double-their-fortunes-pandemic-while-incomes-99-percent-humanityThe strangest thing for me from the list is how Bill Gates has had the most modest gains because a lot of focus was on bill Gates getting wealthy from vaccines. How the frig did Elon Musk increase his wealth by 1000% and others over 100%. Jeff Bezos in some ways I can understand from Amazon but not the others although tbf I don't know a geest deal of the others backgrounds.
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2023 23:52:31 GMT
I think a lot of people who may have been in support of lockdowns where also incredibly critical of the government's spending during covid. The fact that no tendering was required for huge contracts was a massive red flag. Furlough as well was another ridiculous thing considering JSA is meant to be enough for me if I lose my job tomorrow, why was it suddenly not enough for those who couldn't work in Pandemic. And then there was the furlough fruad too which the tories voted against investigating I believe. Where companies were claiming the money while having staff work. And similarly a lot of people on furlough where getting second jobs and earning mad amounts while getting up to 30 of the gov too. There are a lot of anti covid people out there that still defended, and defend, the Conservative government and don't hold them to account for their actions and corruption. Some were even defending party gate while big Boris was having a laugh at their expense on WhatsApp. I couldn’t give a fuck about the right or left, I see myself as a cynical libertarian. Whether by accident or design there has been the biggest wealth transfer and abuse of personal liberties during covid and people still can’t see it. It happened worldwide in countries with left, right and centre governments. But it’s an indisputable fact that the working and middle classes have bourne and will continue to bear the greatest brunt. It's not about left or right though. It's about holding the government accountable. Someone posted an info graph a few pages back about opinions on lockdowns by age demographic as well as party preference. The tory supporters in that demographic were the least supportive of lockdowns. Which to me shows a correlation between being opposed to lockdowns but not holding the government to account for the financial fraud. Alot of people's focus has been more on their "freedoms" rather than the financial implications. So again I don't agree with the coorelation you made between those supporting lockdowns and also supporting transfer of wealth and an increase in inequality.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 6, 2023 0:29:48 GMT
Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. Seen your articles and some of them reference this report too - www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/ten-richest-men-double-their-fortunes-pandemic-while-incomes-99-percent-humanity1.The strangest thing for me from the list is how Bill Gates has had the most modest gains because a lot of focus was on bill Gates getting wealthy from vaccines. 2. How the frig did Elon Musk increase his wealth by 1000% and others over 100%. Jeff Bezos in some ways I can understand from Amazon but not the others although tbf I don't know a geest deal of the others backgrounds. 1. It's the "Great Reset" don't you know The Coronavirus "Hoax" was a sceme dreamt up by Bill to Microchip the Whole World's Population. Look it up. 2. During the Pandemic the S&P 500 went Stratospheric for certain stocks. Tesla stock price went up by 1,400% and SpaceX went from a $33Bn valuation to $71Bn it touched over $100Bn at its peak
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Post by henry on Mar 6, 2023 6:53:01 GMT
Yes, let me try and dig it up. The working and middle classes have been screwed while thanking the people screwing them for keeping them safe. Seen your articles and some of them reference this report too - www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/ten-richest-men-double-their-fortunes-pandemic-while-incomes-99-percent-humanityThe strangest thing for me from the list is how Bill Gates has had the most modest gains because a lot of focus was on bill Gates getting wealthy from vaccines. How the frig did Elon Musk increase his wealth by 1000% and others over 100%. Jeff Bezos in some ways I can understand from Amazon but not the others although tbf I don't know a geest deal of the others backgrounds. Didn’t Musk pump and dump on the bitcoin ponzi ?
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