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Post by Northy on Aug 17, 2022 17:20:38 GMT
The cost of living crisis is directly linked to our actions around Covid More so the war in Ukraine and brexit How has crop failures owing to droughts in non EU countries have an effect on Brexit?
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 17, 2022 20:26:14 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 8:53:47 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 8:56:51 GMT
There’s one growth industry since Brexit… doommongers. Fucking loads of them.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 10:51:20 GMT
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 11:25:02 GMT
Brexit and the cost of living crisis will cause more damage to UK businesses than covid. Are you as angry about those too? Yeah because shutting down society for 18 months had nothing to do with the cost of living crisis 😆😆 Oggy you can't just endlessly blame brexit for bad stuff that happens in the world. This current cost of living crisis is more a consequence of the lockdowns than anything even remotely brexit related
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 12:24:24 GMT
The death rate in the UK is relatively high at the moment and has been consistently so in recent months based on 5 year comparisons. up 15% on normal (5 year comparison), yet only 6-7% of this attributed to Covid. Any explanations why? I wonder what might be the cause of this,,,
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Post by noustie on Aug 19, 2022 12:44:30 GMT
It's fucking nuts mate - my wee lass has gone into a P3-P4 composite class and they've spent the first week pissing about 'team building' so approaching 8 year old and played or coloured in all week. She was in P3 last year and doing P4 stuff from the off but came home yesterday raging because she'd had to sit through an episode of CBeebies bedtime story when she's reading Roald Dahl's herself at home. The gap between the kids is absolutely massive anyway let alone having to deal with kids who are behind for a P3 in with kids miles ahead for a P4 and there doesn't appear to be any plan in place to close it other than 'don't worry they'll catch-up by the end' or by slowing mine down by the look of it so far. An example would be there is a P4-P5 composite too so surely they could have done it on ability where those a bit ahead in P3 could go into that along with those a bit behind in P4 and similarly those who were ahead in P2 or behind in P3 could go into the composite. Instead they purely did it off of age which just seems half arsed to me. Probably just counting down the days until they strike because the heating costs are so high with all the fucking windows still being open.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 19, 2022 12:57:51 GMT
There’s one growth industry since Brexit… doommongers. Fucking loads of them. Yep, certainly no other industry has done well out of brexit.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2022 13:48:29 GMT
2020-2022 - when the world lost its mind over a largely non fatal virus. Just had those haunting flashbacks to when the government and teachers unions came out and forced children to wear masks in schools despite all the evidence suggesting it was an insane idea. The mask mandate scandal was right up there with some of the most disturbed misinformation and abusive policies the country has seen in a long time. Watching indoctrinated zombies walking through the streets and in supermarkets masked up and then shouting at those who applied common sense by not wearing one was quite something. Mass indoctrination with misinformation and propaganda, forcing children out of education, destroying businesses and ripping apart livelihoods - no one deserves to be forgiven for that. I'm not convinced you can attach blame to Government and Teaching Unions equally here. If you cast your mind back we were all going on the information that were being fed, Teaching Unions included, and that information coming through the Government and the hand picked scientists that they were working with was pretty alarming (intentionally so) There were literally no other voices being heard at the time. Teaching Unions would have been going against all the advice if they would have acted any differently and what would have happened if all those projections of catastrophe would have been accurate? Easy targets, but it went much deeper than that. Its ok to say that in retrospect but there was huge uncertainty and we were all drip fed confusing information and data to coerce us into Project Fear. If you are going to point the finger, then I would do so at those who initiated this indoctrination and fear first and foremost.
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Post by hotterpotter on Aug 19, 2022 20:53:09 GMT
The death rate in the UK is relatively high at the moment and has been consistently so in recent months based on 5 year comparisons. up 15% on normal (5 year comparison), yet only 6-7% of this attributed to Covid. Any explanations why? I wonder what might be the cause of this,,, Kitson?
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Aug 19, 2022 20:55:06 GMT
I wonder what might be the cause of this,,, Kitson? That will probably be used as a excuse as well
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 20, 2022 22:26:52 GMT
The death rate in the UK is relatively high at the moment and has been consistently so in recent months based on 5 year comparisons. up 15% on normal (5 year comparison), yet only 6-7% of this attributed to Covid. Any explanations why? Which times are you looking at? Looks like the record hot days killed 1-2k people. The loss of routine care during the pandemic is going to come back to haunt us as well, it really sucks. On the other hand, tens of thousands of older folk got wiped out by COVID and some of those would have been dying now. Usually there's a dip in deaths after similar things, like a big flu season. That's nicknamed " harvesting". UK Excess Deaths : Statistics Deaths coming from Covid and Covid Vaccinations
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 23, 2022 12:36:51 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 23, 2022 15:01:00 GMT
Big Nige spot on as usual
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2022 16:07:10 GMT
Which times are you looking at? Looks like the record hot days killed 1-2k people. The loss of routine care during the pandemic is going to come back to haunt us as well, it really sucks. On the other hand, tens of thousands of older folk got wiped out by COVID and some of those would have been dying now. Usually there's a dip in deaths after similar things, like a big flu season. That's nicknamed " harvesting". UK Excess Deaths : Statistics Deaths coming from Covid and Covid Vaccinations I see YouTube have taken down this video, more crazy covid censorship.!
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Post by Davef on Aug 23, 2022 16:14:26 GMT
UK Excess Deaths : Statistics Deaths coming from Covid and Covid Vaccinations I see YouTube have taken down this video, more crazy covid censorship.! If John Campbell's videos are being censored then I think anyone who is sceptical about this bullshit is totally vindicated.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2022 16:26:19 GMT
I see YouTube have taken down this video, more crazy covid censorship.! If John Campbell's videos are being censored then I think anyone who is sceptical about this bullshit is totally vindicated. Yep, always seemed to back up his pov with scientific published papers or governmental data. Mental stuff
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Post by riverman on Aug 23, 2022 17:50:13 GMT
Something that isn't being mentioned is that we are now reaching a moment in time when the post war baby boomers will be starting to die off in large numbers. This will without doubt lead to a sustained increase in the death rate worldwide over the coming years and has probably already started. A drastic increase in the birth rate in the mid 40s can only end one way 70 odd years later given the average life span. It just happens to coincide with a disease that, although potentially fatal, has been largely mild in the vast majority of cases. This has to be taken into consideration at some point surely. Excess deaths compared to the last 5 to 10 years are not so much an anomaly but inevitable and would have happened anyway. The causes of these deaths, whether from Covid, lockdowns, vaccinations or whatever is open to debate but generally I'd say it's just the natural order of things. You're born, you live, you die 70 to 80 odd years later, on average, and I'd say there are a lot more people around who fit that criteria right now.
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 23, 2022 18:06:07 GMT
I found this interesting. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthcaresystem/bulletins/healthcareexpenditureukhealthaccountsprovisionalestimates/2021It shows healthcare spending up a lot in both 2020 and 2021. Which isn’t especially surprising. However, scroll down to figure 4 and you can see the actual changes to NHS output (GP appointments, A & E visits, etc). All were hugely reduced in 2020. Basically we were spending more but getting less. There’s a poster here (werrington, IIRC) who used to insist that the hospitals were empty and it does look like he was correct from this data. I’m not arguing necessarily that lockdowns weren’t needed. I assume the parts of the NHS that were actually treating Covid were super busy at peak cases. But it does look like lots of the NHS (GPs etc) were running well below capacity. Perhaps explaining (in part) the infamous TikTok video.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 23, 2022 18:19:46 GMT
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Post by henry on Aug 23, 2022 18:28:53 GMT
The media will be all over excess deaths come winter. ITV will be rolling their celeb GP's out and calling for the wearing of masks to be returned, and the government will be blaming picket lines for spreading deadly flu.
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Post by knype on Aug 24, 2022 5:42:06 GMT
The media will be all over excess deaths come winter. ITV will be rolling their celeb GP's out and calling for the wearing of masks to be returned, and the government will be blaming picket lines for spreading deadly flu. Yep, the inefficient NHS is already warning of issues this winter...The same as every winter for the last 20+ years Dr Shillary will be all over the TV stating that masks work and the cycle will kick back in for all those that have worked from home calling for the same to happen again.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 25, 2022 7:55:27 GMT
Which times are you looking at? Looks like the record hot days killed 1-2k people. The loss of routine care during the pandemic is going to come back to haunt us as well, it really sucks. On the other hand, tens of thousands of older folk got wiped out by COVID and some of those would have been dying now. Usually there's a dip in deaths after similar things, like a big flu season. That's nicknamed " harvesting". UK Excess Deaths : Statistics Deaths coming from Covid and Covid Vaccinations I've been travelling and when I got back to watch this it's gone. Do you remember what data he was using and which time period?
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 25, 2022 8:02:09 GMT
The NHS needed extra investment years ago. Now it seems like there will have to be some real hard work done by the government to attract immigrants to help us out. I think the headline could be misleading: the 1k extra deaths a week now are nothing like the 10k+ we were seeing at peak COVID. And we worked fucking hard to keep the death rates below tens of thousands more per week.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 25, 2022 8:18:25 GMT
It's fucking nuts mate - my wee lass has gone into a P3-P4 composite class and they've spent the first week pissing about 'team building' so approaching 8 year old and played or coloured in all week. She was in P3 last year and doing P4 stuff from the off but came home yesterday raging because she'd had to sit through an episode of CBeebies bedtime story when she's reading Roald Dahl's herself at home. The gap between the kids is absolutely massive anyway let alone having to deal with kids who are behind for a P3 in with kids miles ahead for a P4 and there doesn't appear to be any plan in place to close it other than 'don't worry they'll catch-up by the end' or by slowing mine down by the look of it so far. An example would be there is a P4-P5 composite too so surely they could have done it on ability where those a bit ahead in P3 could go into that along with those a bit behind in P4 and similarly those who were ahead in P2 or behind in P3 could go into the composite. Instead they purely did it off of age which just seems half arsed to me. Probably just counting down the days until they strike because the heating costs are so high with all the fucking windows still being open. I was only talking to my daughter, a year 6 primary teacher, about this couple of weeks ago. She is also the Literacy lead for the multi school academy trust of 3 primary schools. What she tries to instil into teachers of both literacy and numeracy is to try and avoid moving kids to higher levels within that year. This is because in year 6 they will have nowhere to go and will quickly become demotivated. She tries to instil a policy of broadening there ability and understanding within that level which would include extensions and even using brighter students to help those less able. It’s a difficult balance for sure but she says that knowing your whole student, meaning ability and home/life circumstances, is so important in helping to develop primary school kids.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 25, 2022 9:55:18 GMT
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 25, 2022 10:06:25 GMT
It's not like he's 'suddenly realised' , he knew all along, it's what the majority of us were saying since day one . I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can spit and that goes for the 'scientists' as well . Follow the money
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 25, 2022 11:47:31 GMT
It's not like he's 'suddenly realised' , he knew all along, it's what the majority of us were saying since day one . I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I can spit and that goes for the 'scientists' as well . Follow the money the scientists were hand picked, i.e. Government spokespersons.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 25, 2022 12:04:17 GMT
Which times are you looking at? Looks like the record hot days killed 1-2k people. The loss of routine care during the pandemic is going to come back to haunt us as well, it really sucks. On the other hand, tens of thousands of older folk got wiped out by COVID and some of those would have been dying now. Usually there's a dip in deaths after similar things, like a big flu season. That's nicknamed " harvesting". UK Excess Deaths : Statistics Deaths coming from Covid and Covid Vaccinations I'm gobsmacked that a video which simply asks the question regarding these excess UK death rates has been removed The video just presents official published Government data which is otherwise accessible to all but then asks the question why the huge increase in deaths with some possible explanations? Seems that is enough for censorship!!! this is the content of video which got it banned......... Why are people dying more than normal? UK, excess deaths www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022... Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales Not from Covid www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati... Covid deaths, UK w/e 24 June, 346 w/e 17 June, 309 Total deaths registered in the UK 12,278 15.9% above the five-year average Latest breakdown, (England and Wales) Excess deaths = 1,540 Covid deaths, 285 58.2% of this 285 gave covid as the underlying cause So, 166 from covid 119 with covid Non covid excess deaths, 1,540 – 166 = 1,374 www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati... www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati... England and Wales data (5 years up to 2019) England and Wale, 16.6% Wales, 18.2% Where excess deaths occurred (above the five-year average) Private homes, 31.5% above Hospitals, 12.1% above Care homes, 10.3% above Other settings, 10.1% above Health experts call for urgent investigation Possible explanations include:Lockdown and restrictions stress Reduced physical activity Lack of access to healthcare Delayer referrals for diagnosis and treatment Cost of living crisis People whose health was / is weakened by covid Known increase risk of stroke and heart attacks Vaccination Increasing autoimmune disease New medications used as covid treatments Prof Paul Hunter, University of East Anglia I think the reality is going to be quite complex but it’s something we do need to be aware of and actually try and understand. There is despair from your livelihood disappearing up the swanny. It doesn’t have to lead to suicide, chronic stress can lead to all sorts of problems. Dr Charles Levinson, DoctorCall The reasons behind these horrific numbers are complicated and none of us fully understand them, so that is exactly why there should be an urgent and comprehensive Government inquiry.If anything, the situation seems to be worsening. Considering the relentless focus on one virus for more than two years, requesting answers from Government on thousands and thousands of non-Covid excess deaths is entirely reasonable.
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