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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jul 6, 2022 12:50:49 GMT
Ramping it up again masks to be worn in all areas of royal stoke again from last night after rules were relaxed last month from only clinical areas..
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Post by noustie on Jul 6, 2022 13:19:35 GMT
Ramping it up again masks to be worn in all areas of royal stoke again from last night after rules were relaxed last month from only clinical areas.. Hope the mask's are big enough cover their arse: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../excess-deaths-rise-not.../Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show. Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus. Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame....Dr Charles Levinson, the chief executive of the private GP company DoctorCall, also called for a government inquiry into what was causing so many deaths at home. The ONS reported 752 excess deaths in the home in the latest week, 30 per cent more than usual, and more than hospitals and care homes put together. “This is exactly why a proper government investigation is required,” he said. “This is not just displacement from hospitals... I do not understand how this is not being properly discussed.”
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Post by henry on Jul 6, 2022 13:36:27 GMT
Ramping it up again masks to be worn in all areas of royal stoke again from last night after rules were relaxed last month from only clinical areas.. Hope the mask's are big enough cover their arse: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../excess-deaths-rise-not.../Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show. Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus. Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame....Dr Charles Levinson, the chief executive of the private GP company DoctorCall, also called for a government inquiry into what was causing so many deaths at home. The ONS reported 752 excess deaths in the home in the latest week, 30 per cent more than usual, and more than hospitals and care homes put together. “This is exactly why a proper government investigation is required,” he said. “This is not just displacement from hospitals... I do not understand how this is not being properly discussed.”Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years
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Post by musik on Jul 6, 2022 14:54:58 GMT
My uncle died of it.
My mother died of it.
Now my brother has it.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 6, 2022 15:40:01 GMT
Hope the mask's are big enough cover their arse: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../excess-deaths-rise-not.../Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show. Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus. Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame....Dr Charles Levinson, the chief executive of the private GP company DoctorCall, also called for a government inquiry into what was causing so many deaths at home. The ONS reported 752 excess deaths in the home in the latest week, 30 per cent more than usual, and more than hospitals and care homes put together. “This is exactly why a proper government investigation is required,” he said. “This is not just displacement from hospitals... I do not understand how this is not being properly discussed.”Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years Who'd have thought that not diagnosing and treating patients would have a knock on effect? Plenty forsore it.
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Post by superjw on Jul 6, 2022 16:33:39 GMT
Hope the mask's are big enough cover their arse: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../excess-deaths-rise-not.../Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show. Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus. Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame....Dr Charles Levinson, the chief executive of the private GP company DoctorCall, also called for a government inquiry into what was causing so many deaths at home. The ONS reported 752 excess deaths in the home in the latest week, 30 per cent more than usual, and more than hospitals and care homes put together. “This is exactly why a proper government investigation is required,” he said. “This is not just displacement from hospitals... I do not understand how this is not being properly discussed.”Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years I'm trying to figure if that's sarcasm or not
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jul 6, 2022 16:51:09 GMT
Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years I'm trying to figure if that's sarcasm or not I would hope so.
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Post by knype on Jul 7, 2022 5:39:18 GMT
Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years I'm trying to figure if that's sarcasm or not It's definitely sarcasm, I know henry!
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 7, 2022 6:39:31 GMT
I'm trying to figure if that's sarcasm or not It's definitely sarcasm, I know henry! My Henry vacuum cleaner is always being suckastic.
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Post by knype on Jul 7, 2022 8:45:50 GMT
It's definitely sarcasm, I know henry! My Henry vacuum cleaner is always being suckastic. Each to their own...
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 7, 2022 14:00:01 GMT
Hope the mask's are big enough cover their arse: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../excess-deaths-rise-not.../Hundreds more people than usual are dying each week in England and Wales with Covid not to blame for the majority of deaths, new figures show. Latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show there were 1,540 excess deaths in the week ending June 24 but only around 10 per cent were due to coronavirus. Health experts have called for an urgent investigation into what is behind the excess mortality, with fears that the pandemic response, lack of access to healthcare and even the cost of living crisis, may be to blame....Dr Charles Levinson, the chief executive of the private GP company DoctorCall, also called for a government inquiry into what was causing so many deaths at home. The ONS reported 752 excess deaths in the home in the latest week, 30 per cent more than usual, and more than hospitals and care homes put together. “This is exactly why a proper government investigation is required,” he said. “This is not just displacement from hospitals... I do not understand how this is not being properly discussed.”Nobody could have foreseen shutting hospitals and GP surgery’s would have a knock on effect in later years In Arizona and some other places they tried not to copy us. Took a more hands off approach. There were so many COVID patients that the hospitals were fucked for months and couldn't help people anyway. And they should have had it easy, everyone has big houses, uses their own cars etc so it's harder to spread a virus. Who knows whether one way was better. We should get an update every year or so as the data comes in.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 8, 2022 12:10:31 GMT
I'm curious how the authorities know that 1 in 25 people have Covid?
I don't know of anyone who is still testing as there doesn't seem to be any requirement?
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Post by Northy on Jul 8, 2022 12:53:34 GMT
I'm curious how the authorities know that 1 in 25 people have Covid? I don't know of anyone who is still testing as there doesn't seem to be any requirement? ONS surveys. I know quite a few who are still checking for work, school etc. My boss tested negative this morning which means I didn't have to work the weekend in Thurrock, I was on standby as he'd been in close contact with someone on Monday for the same work who was rough on Tuesday and then tested positive.
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Post by noustie on Jul 8, 2022 14:38:03 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/more-worrying-data-on-myocarditis-pericarditis/Two new studies on myocarditis / pericarditis after mRNA vaccination have been published in major peer-reviewed journals. Both are based on very large population samples. The first was published in Nature and is based on a matched case-control study performed in France. The second – published in JAMA – contains an analysis of electronic health records in Ontario, Canada. Both these studies find significantly higher rates of myocarditis, especially in younger males, than governments have to date acknowledged publicly............
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 8, 2022 14:52:53 GMT
I'm curious how the authorities know that 1 in 25 people have Covid? I don't know of anyone who is still testing as there doesn't seem to be any requirement? ONS surveys. I know quite a few who are still checking for work, school etc. My boss tested negative this morning which means I didn't have to work the weekend in Thurrock, I was on standby as he'd been in close contact with someone on Monday for the same work who was rough on Tuesday and then tested positive. Ive been working in a school 2 days a week for all this year and testing has never been mentioned since it was scrapped. Same for my wife who works in Health. Seems to be very random.
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2022 16:56:52 GMT
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Post by bjarnig on Jul 15, 2022 17:41:39 GMT
All about money and trying to reduce the population. Vax deaths on the increase.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 15, 2022 18:48:48 GMT
They usually calculate the way to save the most lives and then go with that.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 15, 2022 19:37:25 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/more-worrying-data-on-myocarditis-pericarditis/Two new studies on myocarditis / pericarditis after mRNA vaccination have been published in major peer-reviewed journals. Both are based on very large population samples. The first was published in Nature and is based on a matched case-control study performed in France. The second – published in JAMA – contains an analysis of electronic health records in Ontario, Canada. Both these studies find significantly higher rates of myocarditis, especially in younger males, than governments have to date acknowledged publicly............ Really useful work, thanks for sharing! My read of the Nature paper: 1. COVID infection is worse than the vaccines for Myo/pericarditis 2. Vaccine-caused Myo/pericarditis is less harmful than non-vaccine cases. 3. Moderna much worse than Pfizer for Myo/pericarditis in young men Example result for pericarditis: "The frequency of admission in intensive care unit, mechanical ventilation or death was lower for post-vaccination cases than for unexposed cases. After a follow-up of 30 days after discharge, 4 (0.24%) deaths among cases of myocarditis (none among exposed to vaccine) and 5 (0.31%) deaths among cases of pericarditis (including one patient having received a vaccine 8 to 21 days prior to the diagnosis) were reported." So it looks like in France, they might have found one person who died from vaccine-caused pericarditis. But they can't rule out it being another cause. That compares with estimated 150,000 dead from COVID.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 15, 2022 20:39:43 GMT
Why do healthy people get any jabs?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 15, 2022 20:53:20 GMT
Why do healthy people get any jabs? Usually to stop them catching whatever they got jabbed for.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 15, 2022 20:55:40 GMT
Why do healthy people get any jabs? Usually to stop them catching whatever they got jabbed for. A flu jab doesn’t stop you from getting the flu……
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 15, 2022 20:58:07 GMT
Usually to stop them catching whatever they got jabbed for. A flu jab doesn’t stop you from getting the flu…… How many 'healthy' people get the flu jab?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 15, 2022 21:03:52 GMT
A flu jab doesn’t stop you from getting the flu…… How many 'healthy' people get the flu jab? Loads, healthcare workers for example. Change flu to typhoid if you prefer…….
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 15, 2022 21:15:36 GMT
Change flu to typhoid if you prefer……. "If someone else eats food or drinks water that's been contaminated with a small amount of infected poo or pee, they can become infected with the bacteria and develop typhoid fever."I'll leave that to you, mate. I'm alright.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 15, 2022 21:25:03 GMT
Change flu to typhoid if you prefer……. "If someone else eats food or drinks water that's been contaminated with a small amount of infected poo or pee, they can become infected with the bacteria and develop typhoid fever."I'll leave that to you, mate. I'm alright. I think you get my point mate. Healthy or otherwise we get different types vaccines all the time even though they don’t offer full protection. If you’re over 50 and you want one great, if you don’t happy days……
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 15, 2022 21:25:32 GMT
ONS surveys. I know quite a few who are still checking for work, school etc. My boss tested negative this morning which means I didn't have to work the weekend in Thurrock, I was on standby as he'd been in close contact with someone on Monday for the same work who was rough on Tuesday and then tested positive. Ive been working in a school 2 days a week for all this year and testing has never been mentioned since it was scrapped. Same for my wife who works in Health. Seems to be very random. ONS do a survey where they test a sample of people around the country. I think they only have to test a few thousand people to get a reasonable estimate. It’s a bit like an opinion poll. They control for different factors (age, mobility, work situation, etc.) that make people more/less likely to catch the ‘rona. The ONS surveys are very highly regarded both at home and overseas.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 16, 2022 4:12:42 GMT
Ive been working in a school 2 days a week for all this year and testing has never been mentioned since it was scrapped. Same for my wife who works in Health. Seems to be very random. ONS do a survey where they test a sample of people around the country. I think they only have to test a few thousand people to get a reasonable estimate. It’s a bit like an opinion poll. They control for different factors (age, mobility, work situation, etc.) that make people more/less likely to catch the ‘rona. The ONS surveys are very highly regarded both at home and overseas. From what I've read it's brilliant. Like now we know loads of people are catching it but there aren't too many dying so there's no need to panic. Without the ONS survey it could look scarier.
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Post by felonious on Jul 16, 2022 6:58:38 GMT
Why do healthy people get any jabs? To go on holiday?
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Post by felonious on Jul 16, 2022 7:06:30 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/more-worrying-data-on-myocarditis-pericarditis/Two new studies on myocarditis / pericarditis after mRNA vaccination have been published in major peer-reviewed journals. Both are based on very large population samples. The first was published in Nature and is based on a matched case-control study performed in France. The second – published in JAMA – contains an analysis of electronic health records in Ontario, Canada. Both these studies find significantly higher rates of myocarditis, especially in younger males, than governments have to date acknowledged publicly............ Really useful work, thanks for sharing! My read of the Nature paper: 1. COVID infection is worse than the vaccines for Myo/pericarditis 2. Vaccine-caused Myo/pericarditis is less harmful than non-vaccine cases. 3. Moderna much worse than Pfizer for Myo/pericarditis in young men Example result for pericarditis: "The frequency of admission in intensive care unit, mechanical ventilation or death was lower for post-vaccination cases than for unexposed cases. After a follow-up of 30 days after discharge, 4 (0.24%) deaths among cases of myocarditis (none among exposed to vaccine) and 5 (0.31%) deaths among cases of pericarditis (including one patient having received a vaccine 8 to 21 days prior to the diagnosis) were reported." So it looks like in France, they might have found one person who died from vaccine-caused pericarditis. But they can't rule out it being another cause. That compares with estimated 150,000 dead from COVID. I suppose there are a couple of points here. Focussing on deaths from myo/pericarditis is not the real point it's the effects on health. The second point taken from your comments are that since vaccines don't stop people getting Covid them they are increasing the risks of issues surrounding myo/pericarditis.
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