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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 8, 2022 11:02:03 GMT
The nation salutes you. Self righteous bellend, don't pretend you stood up against it all for the sake of humanity. You posted fucking tweets on a messageboard simply to try and oneup yourself over other posters. The literal definition of keyboard warrior and now you're trying to claim to be some kind of moral campaigner who stood against the powers that be. You did fuck all i suspect and, even if you did, you achieved fuck all by it as the lockdowns carried on. I'm in favour of keyboard warrior-ing Persuading other people is sometimes the best we can do, and can eventually cause change. I'm glad people like rossi were getting really obviously angry about the civil rights side, because the government needs to know it's unacceptable to use an emergency to grab permanent extra control. He was a bit over-worried IMO because it always seemed obvious that it was temporary and now the fears of a police state were obviously off base. Otoh I think he's massively wrong in implying that lockdowns don't slow down the spread of viruses. The scientific method is the tool that dragged our whole species out of the shit IMO, and we should be pushing people to use that rather than just pick a political position ("lockdowns bad") and use anger to try and bludgeon people into rejecting science and rewriting history. But it's very clearly seen in his last self-congratulatory couple of posts, that he wasn't doing anything to let the govt. know he's angry, he's doing it for oneupmanship so he can laud it over people on here. He hasn't even blamed the govt. in his last couple of posts, he's blaming members of the public that disagreed with him, so it's clear he isn't trying to show the govt. anything, he's simply trying to say he's better than other normal people on here. It's 100% about his own ego, nothing else. To do that and make it all about him and his ego with regards to a subject where thousands of people died over the last 2 yers (some of whom will be close relatives of other posters on here, that's he now claiming to be better than...y'know while they grieved and now have to read rossi telling them it was all their own fault and he sat on his sofa doing fuck all) is unpallatable, possibly the most disrespectful thing i've ever seen on here to other posters who lost loved ones and downright disgusting. Posting on The Oatcake doesn't tell the govt. shit mate. If you genuinely believe The Oatcake has that kind of influence (or that many people have even heard of it existing in the first place) then you're as delusional as him. To vent his amger and frustration at the time..no issue with that whatsoever. To come on now and basically blame other posters for the deaths of their own loved ones because they disagreed with him and they should now forget all that and worship him because he was right, so he can shout "I told you so, you're all fucking thick" at those who are still grieving however, is stooping to a new level of low that has rarely been seen on The Oatcake. It's disgraceful, nothing else.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 8, 2022 11:14:18 GMT
Highly amusing seeing some people desperately clinging to the notion that lockdowns were a good idea.
They weren’t.
They are not happening again. Ever.
Those with a weird fetish for locking people in their houses will need to get their kicks some other way.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 8, 2022 11:31:35 GMT
The nation salutes you. Self righteous bellend, don't pretend you stood up against it all for the sake of humanity. You posted fucking tweets on a messageboard simply to try and oneup yourself over other posters. The literal definition of keyboard warrior and now you're trying to claim to be some kind of moral campaigner who stood against the powers that be. You did fuck all i suspect and, even if you did, you achieved fuck all by it as the lockdowns carried on. I'm in favour of keyboard warrior-ing Persuading other people is sometimes the best we can do, and can eventually cause change. I'm glad people like rossi were getting really obviously angry about the civil rights side, because the government needs to know it's unacceptable to use an emergency to grab permanent extra control. He was a bit over-worried IMO because it always seemed obvious that it was temporary and now the fears of a police state were obviously off base. Otoh I think he's massively wrong in implying that lockdowns don't slow down the spread of viruses. The scientific method is the tool that dragged our whole species out of the shit IMO, and we should be pushing people to use that rather than just pick a political position ("lockdowns bad") and use anger to try and bludgeon people into rejecting science and rewriting history. Maybe not so much if you’re Canadian…
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 8, 2022 13:35:39 GMT
You were wrong and you know you were wrong which is why you're now resorting to personal insults - always a give away. You were on the wrong side of history and will, by the younger generation coming through, always be that plank (given we are on insults) who supported obscene measures that cost a nation its economy, its mental health and its education. Own your mistakes. Even the politicians telling you to lock yourself away were laughing at the very rules they implemented, that you were religiously following. I didn't even back the lockdowns you babbling prick! In fact i actually agreed with much of what you said over the last few months. That doesn't mean that it's ok for you to turn this into a "Let's all tell rossi he was right so he can feel clever and validated, whilst insulting and belittling others who disagreed with him" thread though. I'm resorting to personal insults because YOU are trying to turn the entire thread into a personal thread about why YOU'RE so much better than everyone else on here. So yes, the insults will therefore be directed at you accordiingly. If you obviously want the adulation and worship because it's all about you, then you also have to take criticism directed at you. You don't just get unequivocal hero worship, no matter how much you want it or insist to everyone else you deserve it. However, i do take offence to yourpersonal crusade to belittle other posters and desperately try to make people believe you're better than them by using other people's deaths and mental health issues purely to further your own ego. It's fucking disgusting to be honest. Shows how fucking desperate you are to be portrayed as some kind of hero of the people. Utterly pathetic and absolutely no-one thinks that of you, you delusional dipshit So what did you do other than post on a fucking message board? Nothing i.e. exactly the same as the people you apparently think you're better than. Put away your imaginary medals and trophies sad act and stop patting yourself on the back. You did fuck all, don't try to pretend to be some kind of hero. Believe me, there have been plenty of heroes around in the world over the last couple of years, people that have actually done things for others. You're no hero to anyone by coming on here, day after day telling everyone how much better you are than them from your keyboard whilst working on your beer belly sat on your fucking sofa, just an arrogant, delusional, self congratulatory dickhead with zero humility. Your family must be SOOO proud of grandad who did what?? He fought wars for his beliefs...no? He saved people's lives...no? He sat on his sofa making comments on The Oatcake insulting people who recently lost loved ones??? Wow! Such courage!! Listen to yourself, you're sounding like a mad man. And frankly a total nutjob. Hurling abuse at other posters in some kind of desperate attempt to justify their point - its not a good look mate. Opposing those disgusting restrictions that have failed a nation is not about being better than you. It's about not losing your moral compass. Saying stuff like "sat on your sofa with a beer belly" is also pretty funny, given I barely drink and don't have a beer belly. Presumably you'll make something else up now 😂 In all seriousness though, you've absolutely embarrassed yourself with that post. Compose yourself, lighten up and don't be a sore loser.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 8, 2022 13:46:38 GMT
I'm in favour of keyboard warrior-ing Persuading other people is sometimes the best we can do, and can eventually cause change. I'm glad people like rossi were getting really obviously angry about the civil rights side, because the government needs to know it's unacceptable to use an emergency to grab permanent extra control. He was a bit over-worried IMO because it always seemed obvious that it was temporary and now the fears of a police state were obviously off base. Otoh I think he's massively wrong in implying that lockdowns don't slow down the spread of viruses. The scientific method is the tool that dragged our whole species out of the shit IMO, and we should be pushing people to use that rather than just pick a political position ("lockdowns bad") and use anger to try and bludgeon people into rejecting science and rewriting history. But it's very clearly seen in his last self-congratulatory couple of posts, that he wasn't doing anything to let the govt. know he's angry, he's doing it for oneupmanship so he can laud it over people on here. He hasn't even blamed the govt. in his last couple of posts, he's blaming members of the public that disagreed with him, so it's clear he isn't trying to show the govt. anything, he's simply trying to say he's better than other normal people on here. It's 100% about his own ego, nothing else. To do that and make it all about him and his ego with regards to a subject where thousands of people died over the last 2 yers (some of whom will be close relatives of other posters on here, that's he now claiming to be better than...y'know while they grieved and now have to read rossi telling them it was all their own fault and he sat on his sofa doing fuck all) is unpallatable, possibly the most disrespectful thing i've ever seen on here to other posters who lost loved ones and downright disgusting. Posting on The Oatcake doesn't tell the govt. shit mate. If you genuinely believe The Oatcake has that kind of influence (or that many people have even heard of it existing in the first place) then you're as delusional as him. To vent his amger and frustration at the time..no issue with that whatsoever. To come on now and basically blame other posters for the deaths of their own loved ones because they disagreed with him and they should now forget all that and worship him because he was right, so he can shout "I told you so, you're all fucking thick" at those who are still grieving however, is stooping to a new level of low that has rarely been seen on The Oatcake. It's disgraceful, nothing else. What are you talking about? Yeah everyone should shut up, not have an opinion, nod our heads and only post on the oatcake if you think you can change the government or if you've "done something for society". What an absurd post. Also I take issue with that point of "those who are still grieving". Why are you literally making stuff up? Maybe you should spare a thought for those who are still grieving because they were banned from seeing their loved ones in their final moments because of government policy and government science that the government didn't even believe in? Or those who lost loved ones to suicide because they were told to lock themselves away for something they were likely immune to? What about those who weren't even allowed to have a proper funeral or those who lost their business that they'd spent their whole life building? All in the name of a virus with a 99%+ survival rate. That's not to say covid isn't real or those who died from covid are somehow less important - It's about applying reason and common sense when looking at a nation of a largely healthy 70 million people forced into absurd restrictions based on manipulated data, propaganda and government overreach. Anyway, not really sure why I'm giving you the time of day given your mental outbursts 😂
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 8, 2022 14:28:13 GMT
But it's very clearly seen in his last self-congratulatory couple of posts, that he wasn't doing anything to let the govt. know he's angry, he's doing it for oneupmanship so he can laud it over people on here. He hasn't even blamed the govt. in his last couple of posts, he's blaming members of the public that disagreed with him, so it's clear he isn't trying to show the govt. anything, he's simply trying to say he's better than other normal people on here. It's 100% about his own ego, nothing else. To do that and make it all about him and his ego with regards to a subject where thousands of people died over the last 2 yers (some of whom will be close relatives of other posters on here, that's he now claiming to be better than...y'know while they grieved and now have to read rossi telling them it was all their own fault and he sat on his sofa doing fuck all) is unpallatable, possibly the most disrespectful thing i've ever seen on here to other posters who lost loved ones and downright disgusting. Posting on The Oatcake doesn't tell the govt. shit mate. If you genuinely believe The Oatcake has that kind of influence (or that many people have even heard of it existing in the first place) then you're as delusional as him. To vent his amger and frustration at the time..no issue with that whatsoever. To come on now and basically blame other posters for the deaths of their own loved ones because they disagreed with him and they should now forget all that and worship him because he was right, so he can shout "I told you so, you're all fucking thick" at those who are still grieving however, is stooping to a new level of low that has rarely been seen on The Oatcake. It's disgraceful, nothing else. What are you talking about? Yeah everyone should shut up, not have an opinion, nod our heads and only post on the oatcake if you think you can change the government or if you've "done something for society". What an absurd post. Also I take issue with that point of "those who are still grieving". Why are you literally making stuff up? Maybe you should spare a thought for those who are still grieving because they were banned from seeing their loved ones in their final moments because of government policy and government science that the government didn't even believe in? Or those who lost loved ones to suicide because they were told to lock themselves away for something they were likely immune to? What about those who weren't even allowed to have a proper funeral or those who lost their business that they'd spent their whole life building? All in the name of a virus with a 99%+ survival rate. That's not to say covid isn't real or those who died from covid are somehow less important - It's about applying reason and common sense when looking at a nation of a largely healthy 70 million people forced into absurd restrictions based on manipulated data, propaganda and government overreach. Anyway, not really sure why I'm giving you the time of day given your mental outbursts 😂 You're literally a pathetic specimen of the human race. And i'm not a sore loser as i said, i agreed with much of what you said but the way you're acting now is a disgrace...but that shows you up for what you are. It's nothing to do with real people, their lives, their liberty...it's simply about YOU "winning". Shown your true colours there All hail rossi 'cos him being right is more important than real people's real lives. Utterly delusional sense of grandeur and self importance. You've spent far too much time over the last 2 years on the ibternet belittling others, that you now seem to believe your own heroship and legendary god status. And yes, there are still people grieving loved ones whether you choose to believe it or not. Saying there aren't because you're so far up your own arse that you now genuinely believe you're better than other people so want to turn the thread into a rossi was right thread IS fucking disgusting. You really are an utter fucking low life trying to gain social media points over others who lost loved ones and disagreed with you. This board, this thread and most of the people here don't give a flying fuck about you and whether you were right or wrong, so stop trying to hijack the thread with your narcissistic need for validation. Pathetic human being.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 8, 2022 14:38:14 GMT
i’ve always aired on the side of caution. Had all my jabs because it felt like the right thing to do and adhered to lockdowns too (unlike Boris and Keir). working in education one thing i have noticed though is the huge impact lockdowns have had on the 10-13 age groups in particular. Huge issues with kids mental health and it’s very sad to see.
Too much time online at home on their own rather than being in the classroom has clearly had an impact some of which has been down to parenting.
I guess we’ll never really know what would have happened with no lockdowns other than educated guesses but in the classrooms we’re beginning to see the costs now and it’s very sad as the likes of CAMHS don’t have the numbers to support all those that need support.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 8, 2022 14:47:39 GMT
What are you talking about? Yeah everyone should shut up, not have an opinion, nod our heads and only post on the oatcake if you think you can change the government or if you've "done something for society". What an absurd post. Also I take issue with that point of "those who are still grieving". Why are you literally making stuff up? Maybe you should spare a thought for those who are still grieving because they were banned from seeing their loved ones in their final moments because of government policy and government science that the government didn't even believe in? Or those who lost loved ones to suicide because they were told to lock themselves away for something they were likely immune to? What about those who weren't even allowed to have a proper funeral or those who lost their business that they'd spent their whole life building? All in the name of a virus with a 99%+ survival rate. That's not to say covid isn't real or those who died from covid are somehow less important - It's about applying reason and common sense when looking at a nation of a largely healthy 70 million people forced into absurd restrictions based on manipulated data, propaganda and government overreach. Anyway, not really sure why I'm giving you the time of day given your mental outbursts 😂 You're literally a pathetic specimen of the human race. And i'm not a sore loser as i said, i agreed with much of what you said but the way you're acting now is a disgrace...but that shows you up for what you are. It's nothing to do with real people, their lives, their liberty...it's simply about YOU "winning". Shown your true colours there All hail rossi 'cos him being right is more important than real people's real lives. Utterly delusional sense of grandeur and self importance. You've spent far too much time over the last 2 years on the ibternet belittling others, that you now seem to believe your own heroship and legendary god status. And yes, there are still people grieving loved ones whether you choose to believe it or not. Saying there aren't because you're so far up your own arse that you now genuinely believe you're better than other people so want to turn the thread into a rossi was right thread IS fucking disgusting. You really are an utter fucking low life trying to gain social media points over others who lost loved ones and disagreed with you. This board, this thread and most of the people here don't give a flying fuck about you and whether you were right or wrong, so stop trying to hijack the thread with your narcissistic need for validation. Pathetic human being. Are you pissed? Serious question - It's like you've gone completely mad. Just take a step back and look at what you're posting. The level of abuse you're putting out is pretty appalling. You're also making absolutely no sense.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 8, 2022 15:03:09 GMT
You're literally a pathetic specimen of the human race. And i'm not a sore loser as i said, i agreed with much of what you said but the way you're acting now is a disgrace...but that shows you up for what you are. It's nothing to do with real people, their lives, their liberty...it's simply about YOU "winning". Shown your true colours there All hail rossi 'cos him being right is more important than real people's real lives. Utterly delusional sense of grandeur and self importance. You've spent far too much time over the last 2 years on the ibternet belittling others, that you now seem to believe your own heroship and legendary god status. And yes, there are still people grieving loved ones whether you choose to believe it or not. Saying there aren't because you're so far up your own arse that you now genuinely believe you're better than other people so want to turn the thread into a rossi was right thread IS fucking disgusting. You really are an utter fucking low life trying to gain social media points over others who lost loved ones and disagreed with you. This board, this thread and most of the people here don't give a flying fuck about you and whether you were right or wrong, so stop trying to hijack the thread with your narcissistic need for validation. Pathetic human being. Are you pissed? Serious question - It's like you've gone completely mad. Just take a step back and look at what you're posting. The level of abuse you're putting out is pretty appalling. Considering what you posted, blaming people on here for what happened (as i said, many of whom lost loved ones) everything i've said is perfectly justified. There is absolutely NO need for you to be posting things like that. It's just bloody sick. You're a sick man who's more interested in his own Oatcake points and people saying "You were right" than you are in actual real people and they way you make them feel. You talk about mental health issues, then have such little concept of the matter that you think it's ok to come here and blame other posters for the ills that lockdown caused. How do you think that will affect the mental health of people who did lose family members and/or friends, you blaming them for it because they disagreed with you on the oatcake? You don't even have the awareness to notice that do you? No, because it's all about you seemingly. For someone who claims to have been concerned for people suffering, you have a very arrogant and self agrandising way of showing support and empathy towards anyone whatseover who disagreed with you! You banged on about the govt. dividing the people and trying to shift the public's blame away fron the govt. and towards each other instead. Well, you completely 100% bought into that didn't you, and haven't even bloody noticed it. I guess that makes you one of those sheep who just does whatever the govt. wants you to do but you just aren't even bloody bright enough to spot it.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 8, 2022 16:08:21 GMT
Are you pissed? Serious question - It's like you've gone completely mad. Just take a step back and look at what you're posting. The level of abuse you're putting out is pretty appalling. Considering what you posted, blaming people on here for what happened (as i said, many of whom lost loved ones) everything i've said is perfectly justified. There is absolutely NO need for you to be posting things like that. It's just bloody sick. You're a sick man who's more interested in his own Oatcake points and people saying "You were right" than you are in actual real people and they way you make them feel. You talk about mental health issues, then have such little concept of the matter that you think it's ok to come here and blame other posters for the ills that lockdown caused. How do you think that will affect the mental health of people who did lose family members and/or friends, you blaming them for it because they disagreed with you on the oatcake? You don't even have the awareness to notice that do you? No, because it's all about you seemingly. For someone who claims to have been concerned for people suffering, you have a very arrogant and self agrandising way of showing support and empathy towards anyone whatseover who disagreed with you! You banged on about the govt. dividing the people and trying to shift the public's blame away fron the govt. and towards each other instead. Well, you completely 100% bought into that didn't you, and haven't even bloody noticed it. I guess that makes you one of those sheep who just does whatever the govt. wants you to do but you just aren't even bloody bright enough to spot it. You've really lost it over this. It's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with a nation let down by corrupt politicians, manipulative government science, government overreach and a proportion of (often very wealthy/comfortable groupings) British society who were cheering on sickening restrictions, often for their own benefit. Its no surprise the wealthiest have and are benefitting from the Covid insanity, while the rest are suffering dearly. If opposing unjustifiable, oppressive restrictions on one's freedom makes people like you angry, then great. I'll carry on making you angry and will take great pleasure in doing so.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 8, 2022 17:44:24 GMT
Considering what you posted, blaming people on here for what happened (as i said, many of whom lost loved ones) everything i've said is perfectly justified. There is absolutely NO need for you to be posting things like that. It's just bloody sick. You're a sick man who's more interested in his own Oatcake points and people saying "You were right" than you are in actual real people and they way you make them feel. You talk about mental health issues, then have such little concept of the matter that you think it's ok to come here and blame other posters for the ills that lockdown caused. How do you think that will affect the mental health of people who did lose family members and/or friends, you blaming them for it because they disagreed with you on the oatcake? You don't even have the awareness to notice that do you? No, because it's all about you seemingly. For someone who claims to have been concerned for people suffering, you have a very arrogant and self agrandising way of showing support and empathy towards anyone whatseover who disagreed with you! You banged on about the govt. dividing the people and trying to shift the public's blame away fron the govt. and towards each other instead. Well, you completely 100% bought into that didn't you, and haven't even bloody noticed it. I guess that makes you one of those sheep who just does whatever the govt. wants you to do but you just aren't even bloody bright enough to spot it. You've really lost it over this. It's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with a nation let down by corrupt politicians, manipulative government science, government overreach and a proportion of (often very wealthy/comfortable groupings) British society who were cheering on sickening restrictions, often for their own benefit. Its no surprise the wealthiest have and are benefitting from the Covid insanity, while the rest are suffering dearly. If opposing unjustifiable, oppressive restrictions on one's freedom makes people like you angry, then great. I'll carry on making you angry and will take great pleasure in doing so. I never once, anywhere said opposing the govt. for lockdowns makes me angry. Find one place in any of my posts where i have, come on! I've actually said twice already i agreed with you on that. That's simply YOU making things up (which you accused me of, although i did nothing of the sort anywhere) and ignoring the actual words in front of you and turning it around to what you want to say because you lack the brain power to address what i actually did say. I've made it quite clear that you blaming members of the public who disagreed with you for the ills of lockdown is what is out of order, particularly while you try to big yourself up as some sort of moral crusader and especially as some of those will have lost people close to them. You yourself did nothing but make posts on a message board that barely anyone even knows the existence of. Other than that, you did the same as the people you're criticsing i.e fuck all. You're no better than them in any way, the only difference is that they have some empathy towards others and don't try to turn worldwide events into something just about them and their fucking ego. Saying you cared about those in lockdown and those going along with it are to blame isn't empathetic at all, it's simply the exact type of blame game the govt. have been trying to get the public to buy into so they turn on each other instead of the govt. and you've fallen for that hook, line and sinker There's a right way of going about things. The way you've chosen, by trying to say you're superior to all others who disagreed with your lockdown arguments and blaming them for what happened is not the right way at all. It's simply egotistic babbling from someone who's spent years being an arrogant prick on here and is depserate to be told he was right.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 8, 2022 18:10:52 GMT
You've really lost it over this. It's got nothing to do with me and everything to do with a nation let down by corrupt politicians, manipulative government science, government overreach and a proportion of (often very wealthy/comfortable groupings) British society who were cheering on sickening restrictions, often for their own benefit. Its no surprise the wealthiest have and are benefitting from the Covid insanity, while the rest are suffering dearly. If opposing unjustifiable, oppressive restrictions on one's freedom makes people like you angry, then great. I'll carry on making you angry and will take great pleasure in doing so. I never once, anywhere said opposing the govt. for lockdowns makes me angry. Find one place in any of my posts where i have, come on! I've actually said twice already i agreed with you on that. That's simply YOU making things up (which you accused me of, although i did nothing of the sort anywhere) and ignoring the actual words in front of you and turning it around to what you want to say because you lack the brain power to address what i actually did say. I've made it quite clear that you blaming members of the public who disagreed with you for the ills of lockdown is what is out of order, particularly while you try to big yourself up as some sort of moral crusader and especially as some of those will have lost people close to them. You yourself did nothing but make posts on a message board that barely anyone even knows the existence of. Other than that, you did the same as the people you're criticsing i.e fuck all. You're no better than them in any way, the only difference is that they have some empathy towards others and don't try to turn worldwide events into something just about them and their fucking ego. Saying you cared about those in lockdown and those going along with it are to blame isn't empathetic at all, it's simply the exact type of blame game the govt. have been trying to get the public to buy into so they turn on each other instead of the govt. and you've fallen for that hook, line and sinker There's a right way of going about things. The way you've chosen, by trying to say you're superior to all others who disagreed with your lockdown arguments and blaming them for what happened is not the right way at all. It's simply egotistic babbling from someone who's spent years being an arrogant prick on here and is depserate to be told he was right. Respectfully I'm not sure based on your recent posts you are in any position to advise on how to go about an argument. All you've done is abuse and continue to abuse. Just listen to yourself - angry, bitter, aggressive, nonsensical - rambling on about a made up argument that you've created in your own mind. You can't seem to write a sentence without swearing or abusing. I mean, I've never been much of a supporter of most the stuff you post but would never have expected you to sink so low. Hopefully you aren't so irrational, hostile and distasteful in real life ☺️
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Post by partickpotter on May 11, 2022 10:56:47 GMT
Life back to normal (near enough) for us.
But not everywhere.
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Post by stokeuk474 on May 11, 2022 11:19:39 GMT
Life back to normal (near enough) for us. But not everywhere. China is a scary scary place. If we thought the Russians were bad, god help us when the Chinese decide what they want to do.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 11, 2022 21:50:30 GMT
The guy in this video makes some interesting points, I’d like to see a mask proponent rebut some of his arguments
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Post by knype on May 12, 2022 4:45:01 GMT
The guy in this video makes some interesting points, I’d like to see a mask proponent rebut some of his arguments Superb that!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 13, 2022 8:40:00 GMT
The guy in this video makes some interesting points, I’d like to see a mask proponent rebut some of his arguments The pro mask mob dismissed studies from Denmark and Bangladesh as well as real life evidence in the UK of regions that weren't wearing masks vs those that were (England v Wales) - it's obvious now that masks had no real impact on the spread of covid but the government knew this. It was all part of the behavioural science, propaganda machine based on fear. Lockdowns and masks were a catastrophic failing on society and those responsible should never be forgiven. Re China, its truly terrifying and they continue to breach just about every human right going. Again - It was obvious from day one that certain governments would use covid as a means to apply government overreach. It was always the perfect vehicle for oppressive governments to abuse their people. On a smaller scale just look at how drunk on power bastards like Drakeford and Sturgeon got? It was utterly disgusting and as I say, those responsible should never be forgiven.
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Post by Northy on May 13, 2022 15:42:01 GMT
The guy in this video makes some interesting points, I’d like to see a mask proponent rebut some of his arguments The pro mask mob dismissed studies from Denmark and Bangladesh as well as real life evidence in the UK of regions that weren't wearing masks vs those that were (England v Wales) - it's obvious now that masks had no real impact on the spread of covid but the government knew this. It was all part of the behavioural science, propaganda machine based on fear. Lockdowns and masks were a catastrophic failing on society and those responsible should never be forgiven. Re China, its truly terrifying and they continue to breach just about every human right going. Again - It was obvious from day one that certain governments would use covid as a means to apply government overreach. It was always the perfect vehicle for oppressive governments to abuse their people. On a smaller scale just look at how drunk on power bastards like Drakeford and Sturgeon got? It was utterly disgusting and as I say, those responsible should never be forgiven. The trouble with videos like this is you only get to see what the person uploading it wants you to see, you don't see a counter argument. Yes, he's right in what he's saying about ventilation, that certainly helps, but it's not 100% effective just like masks. Bangladesh say that masks work to reduce the risk down a certain % worked in a link below, as do many other studies below, and some like school children (who aren't the most responsible to study against) in Scotland didn't, nobody on here was saying they were perfect but they reduced the risk. It's not 0% or 100% of effectiveness that anyone was looking at, but many different measures, ventilation, cleanliness, masks all to help reduce the risk/spread I just can't understand why some people don't get that. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210907/masks-limit-covid-spread-studynews.sky.com/story/covid-19-what-does-the-science-actually-say-about-face-masks-12349337www.forbes.com/sites/johndrake/2022/02/04/the-real-world-effectiveness-of-face-masks-against-covid-19/www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm?s_cid=mm7106e1_wwww.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now/
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Post by noustie on May 13, 2022 16:27:38 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 13, 2022 18:00:11 GMT
The pro mask mob dismissed studies from Denmark and Bangladesh as well as real life evidence in the UK of regions that weren't wearing masks vs those that were (England v Wales) - it's obvious now that masks had no real impact on the spread of covid but the government knew this. It was all part of the behavioural science, propaganda machine based on fear. Lockdowns and masks were a catastrophic failing on society and those responsible should never be forgiven. Re China, its truly terrifying and they continue to breach just about every human right going. Again - It was obvious from day one that certain governments would use covid as a means to apply government overreach. It was always the perfect vehicle for oppressive governments to abuse their people. On a smaller scale just look at how drunk on power bastards like Drakeford and Sturgeon got? It was utterly disgusting and as I say, those responsible should never be forgiven. The trouble with videos like this is you only get to see what the person uploading it wants you to see, you don't see a counter argument. Yes, he's right in what he's saying about ventilation, that certainly helps, but it's not 100% effective just like masks. Bangladesh say that masks work to reduce the risk down a certain % worked in a link below, as do many other studies below, and some like school children (who aren't the most responsible to study against) in Scotland didn't, nobody on here was saying they were perfect but they reduced the risk. It's not 0% or 100% of effectiveness that anyone was looking at, but many different measures, ventilation, cleanliness, masks all to help reduce the risk/spread I just can't understand why some people don't get that. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210907/masks-limit-covid-spread-studynews.sky.com/story/covid-19-what-does-the-science-actually-say-about-face-masks-12349337www.forbes.com/sites/johndrake/2022/02/04/the-real-world-effectiveness-of-face-masks-against-covid-19/www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm?s_cid=mm7106e1_wwww.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now/Yes that’s why I’d like someone to try and dissect his argument But it’s concerning when he said the 3M website said there masks were unsuitable for children but nonetheless kids were forced to wear masks (that were about as useful as tits on a bull for you get kids) Edit: and the first study I happened to open (that you linked) said that cloth masks were effective in stopping the spread which was subsequently acknowledged by the CDC to be incorrect
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Post by mtrstudent on May 14, 2022 5:04:01 GMT
The pro mask mob dismissed studies from Denmark and Bangladesh as well as real life evidence in the UK of regions that weren't wearing masks vs those that were (England v Wales Could you describe the Danish study and report its results?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 14, 2022 8:19:31 GMT
The pro mask mob dismissed studies from Denmark and Bangladesh as well as real life evidence in the UK of regions that weren't wearing masks vs those that were (England v Wales Could you describe the Danish study and report its results? www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-/ampHow do you describe England's lower infection rates over Wales and Scotland who continued with the absurd mask mandates? I can't believe after all we've seen, and continue to see, that there is still this tiny tiny minority who can't give up the game and desperately argue that lockdowns and masks worked. I applaud the determination 😆 Meanwhile, the world is literally in chaos and we are heading for one of the biggest economical crashes on record... All in the name of a largely non fatal virus with a 99%+ survival rate. History will look back on 2020-22 with utter despair, and rightly so.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 14, 2022 13:52:15 GMT
Could you describe the Danish study and report its results? www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-/ampHow do you describe England's lower infection rates over Wales and Scotland who continued with the absurd mask mandates? I can't believe after all we've seen, and continue to see, that there is still this tiny tiny minority who can't give up the game and desperately argue that lockdowns and masks worked. I applaud the determination 😆 Meanwhile, the world is literally in chaos and we are heading for one of the biggest economical crashes on record... All in the name of a largely non fatal virus with a 99%+ survival rate. History will look back on 2020-22 with utter despair, and rightly so. What about the Danish study?
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Post by bjarnig on May 14, 2022 14:14:09 GMT
Myself, family and quite a few friends have never caught covid. I read an interesting article where it stated 20% of folk simply can't catch it. All of those I know who did catch it were vaccinated. This worries me. 8 of us in the pub all day 2 months ago. Only 3 caught it, yep all vaccinated.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 14, 2022 14:26:07 GMT
www.google.com/amp/s/www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-/ampHow do you describe England's lower infection rates over Wales and Scotland who continued with the absurd mask mandates? I can't believe after all we've seen, and continue to see, that there is still this tiny tiny minority who can't give up the game and desperately argue that lockdowns and masks worked. I applaud the determination 😆 Meanwhile, the world is literally in chaos and we are heading for one of the biggest economical crashes on record... All in the name of a largely non fatal virus with a 99%+ survival rate. History will look back on 2020-22 with utter despair, and rightly so. What about the Danish study? Don't fancy reading?
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Post by mtrstudent on May 14, 2022 14:27:20 GMT
What about the Danish study? Don't fancy reading? You say it supports masks not working. Can you say what they tested and what the results were?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 14, 2022 16:02:06 GMT
You say it supports masks not working. Can you say what they tested and what the results were? The CDC said cloth masks don’t work. The vast majority of people have been wearing (incorrectly/poorly) masks that the CDC said don’t work.
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Post by salopstick on May 14, 2022 19:05:29 GMT
Inside I understand but
Still seeing idiots wear masks outside.
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Post by bjarnig on May 14, 2022 19:36:25 GMT
Inside I understand but Still seeing idiots wear masks outside. [br They don't work anywhere.
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Post by prettything on May 14, 2022 20:00:22 GMT
You say it supports masks not working. Can you say what they tested and what the results were? The CDC said cloth masks don’t work. The vast majority of people have been wearing (incorrectly/poorly) masks that the CDC said don’t work. They said loosely woven masks are least effective. Not that cloth masks don’t work.
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