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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 25, 2022 21:39:00 GMT
Thankfully I’m starting to feel abit better thanks but I can say for 3 days it’s probably the worst I’ve ever felt in my adult life😮Aches are starting to go but the cough and throat soreness are still there.I’ll be amazed if I’m clear tomorrow(day 5) and then Sunday. Thanks for asking by the way👍 Not going Bournemouth then? That’ll be Luton and Bournemouth matches missed Wank that is Whats even worse is the Mrs keep going on about it’s half term all week and we’re now not going anywhere😊🤣She keeps testing negative as well
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Post by werrington on Feb 25, 2022 21:40:23 GMT
Not going Bournemouth then? That’ll be Luton and Bournemouth matches missed Wank that is Whats even worse is the Mrs keep going on about it’s half term all week and we’re now not going anywhere😊🤣She keeps testing negative as well Get well soon Steve 👍
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 25, 2022 21:53:04 GMT
Not going Bournemouth then? That’ll be Luton and Bournemouth matches missed Wank that is Whats even worse is the Mrs keep going on about it’s half term all week and we’re now not going anywhere😊🤣She keeps testing negative as well You can go where you want now can’t you?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 25, 2022 22:02:14 GMT
Whats even worse is the Mrs keep going on about it’s half term all week and we’re now not going anywhere😊🤣She keeps testing negative as well You can go where you want now can’t you? I can mate but I wouldn’t willingly pass it on to someone knowing I wasn’t clear
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 25, 2022 22:03:09 GMT
You can go where you want now can’t you? I can mate but I wouldn’t willingly pass it on to someone knowing I wasn’t clear Fair enough mate. Get well soon👍🏻
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Post by noustie on Feb 26, 2022 6:49:10 GMT
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2022 7:53:30 GMT
Any suggestion of a link with the vaccination program for the elderly Then wouldn't you expect the cardiac spikes to happen soon after vaccines were given? Booster doses for the elderly peaked April 2021. The Delta resurgence was July 2021. The increase in calls was July 2021. Looks like another virus-caused spike to me. Vaccine cardiac risks peak for young men rather than the elderly, but the numbers just don't add up for that. What, young men like Novak Djokavic? With all due respect it'll be a while before we have proper data on the effects of vaccinations.
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Post by swede on Feb 26, 2022 15:14:44 GMT
Then wouldn't you expect the cardiac spikes to happen soon after vaccines were given? Booster doses for the elderly peaked April 2021. The Delta resurgence was July 2021. The increase in calls was July 2021. Looks like another virus-caused spike to me. Vaccine cardiac risks peak for young men rather than the elderly, but the numbers just don't add up for that. What, young men like Novak Djokavic? With all due respect it'll be a while before we have proper data on the effects of vaccinations. Will...
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2022 18:55:45 GMT
Then wouldn't you expect the cardiac spikes to happen soon after vaccines were given? Booster doses for the elderly peaked April 2021. The Delta resurgence was July 2021. The increase in calls was July 2021. Looks like another virus-caused spike to me. Vaccine cardiac risks peak for young men rather than the elderly, but the numbers just don't add up for that. What, young men like Novak Djokavic? With all due respect it'll be a while before we have proper data on the effects of vaccinations. Those ambulance call spikes are all short-term though, and we have loads of short-term (~1 year) vaccine data. The July 2021 heart/lung problem spike happened during the July 2021 Delta spike and looks like the spikes that happened before the vaccine even existed with the original and Alpha waves. Seems obvious to me that the virus that causes heart & lung problems probably caused most of the heart & lung problems. But I don't think any of us nobodies can know for sure atm!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 26, 2022 19:23:46 GMT
What, young men like Novak Djokavic? With all due respect it'll be a while before we have proper data on the effects of vaccinations. Those ambulance call spikes are all short-term though, and we have loads of short-term (~1 year) vaccine data. The July 2021 heart/lung problem spike happened during the July 2021 Delta spike and looks like the spikes that happened before the vaccine even existed with the original and Alpha waves. Seems obvious to me that the virus that causes heart & lung problems probably caused most of the heart & lung problems. But I don't think any of us nobodies can know for sure atm! So why then would anyone propose vaxxing kids?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2022 19:29:22 GMT
Those ambulance call spikes are all short-term though, and we have loads of short-term (~1 year) vaccine data. The July 2021 heart/lung problem spike happened during the July 2021 Delta spike and looks like the spikes that happened before the vaccine even existed with the original and Alpha waves. Seems obvious to me that the virus that causes heart & lung problems probably caused most of the heart & lung problems. But I don't think any of us nobodies can know for sure atm! So why then would anyone propose vaxxing kids? The argument was clearer when vaccination helped reduce spread and protect others. Even though they're at lower risk from the disease, stopping kids from getting really sick still seems like a good idea to me but I guess opinions differ?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 26, 2022 19:31:31 GMT
So why then would anyone propose vaxxing kids? The argument was clearer when vaccination helped reduce spread and protect others. Even though they're at lower risk from the disease, stopping kids from getting really sick still seems like a good idea to me but I guess opinions differ? Jabbing healthy kids with a vax you admit no one knows for sure if it’s causing adolescent health issues is bat shit mental. Especially when then are at virtually no risk from it. Can you show a link to healthy kids getting really sick?
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 26, 2022 19:46:13 GMT
The argument was clearer when vaccination helped reduce spread and protect others. Even though they're at lower risk from the disease, stopping kids from getting really sick still seems like a good idea to me but I guess opinions differ? Jabbing healthy kids with a vax you admit no one knows for sure if it’s causing adolescent health issues is bat shit mental. Especially when then are at virtually no risk from it. Can you show a link to healthy kids getting really sick? Well, that's what trials are for, to find out what the vaccine risks are. And with the other variants where it slowed down the spread, vaccinating kids was protecting older people too which I think should be discussed. CDC: "During December 2021, when both variants were circulating, the rates of hospitalization were 23.5 and 3.8 per 100,000 among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated adolescents, respectively". They don't split up into what counts as a "healthy" or "unhealthy" child though. Obviously Omicron didn't infect everyone in a single month, so the risk of a kid being sick enough to need hospital from infection must be more than 200-per-million. Mild heart problems, almost all less severe than "needs hospital", were something like 30-to-100-per-million for Pfizer in the highest risk group. Iirc risk is smaller for 0-17 year olds. If people are really concerned about 30-100 mild cases of heart problems, then I'd think they'd be more concerned about 200+ hospitalisations.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 26, 2022 21:31:14 GMT
In my opinion anyone still advocating for healthy kids to be jabbed needs their head examined. Absolutely crazy!
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Post by noustie on Feb 26, 2022 21:42:00 GMT
In my opinion anyone still advocating for healthy kids to be jabbed needs their head examined. Absolutely crazy! I reckon when the dust settles it'll come out the issue was getting a dose of the vaccine in close proximity to a dose of Covid. Seems crazy that naturally developed immunity was discounted and dismissed so long from a health perspective
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 26, 2022 22:10:10 GMT
In my opinion anyone still advocating for healthy kids to be jabbed needs their head examined. Absolutely crazy! I reckon when the dust settles it'll come out the issue was getting a dose of the vaccine in close proximity to a dose of Covid. Seems crazy that naturally developed immunity was discounted and dismissed so long from a health perspective My eldest daughter got vaxxed as she was almost 18 I didn’t stand in her way, she also got covid a few months later. My 11 year old lad had it and was over it in 24/48 hours my 15 year old lad was completely exposed to it (shared a bed/food etc with the 11 year old) but he still hasn’t caught it. I’m hoping he catches a mild dose coz he won’t be getting vaccinated on my watch!
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Post by felonious on Feb 27, 2022 7:25:14 GMT
Anyone experiencing any effects of the vaccine can report side effects using the Yellow Card system, so underreported I wasn't aware of it's existence. yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
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Post by knype on Feb 27, 2022 8:08:30 GMT
Jabbing healthy kids with a vax you admit no one knows for sure if it’s causing adolescent health issues is bat shit mental. Especially when then are at virtually no risk from it. Can you show a link to healthy kids getting really sick? Well, that's what trials are for, to find out what the vaccine risks are. And with the other variants where it slowed down the spread, vaccinating kids was protecting older people too which I think should be discussed. CDC: "During December 2021, when both variants were circulating, the rates of hospitalization were 23.5 and 3.8 per 100,000 among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated adolescents, respectively". They don't split up into what counts as a "healthy" or "unhealthy" child though. Obviously Omicron didn't infect everyone in a single month, so the risk of a kid being sick enough to need hospital from infaction must be more than 200-per-100k. Mild heart problems, almost all less severe than "needs hospital", were something like 30-to-100-per-100k for Pfizer in the highest risk group. Iirc risk is smaller for 0-17 year olds. If people are really concerned about 30-100 mild cases of heart problems, then I'd think they'd be more concerned about 200+ hospitalisations. Surely you're not saying that trialling an experimental drug on children where their risk of severe illness is virtually zero is acceptable?
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 27, 2022 9:03:49 GMT
I reckon when the dust settles it'll come out the issue was getting a dose of the vaccine in close proximity to a dose of Covid. Seems crazy that naturally developed immunity was discounted and dismissed so long from a health perspective My eldest daughter got vaxxed as she was almost 18 I didn’t stand in her way, she also got covid a few months later. My 11 year old lad had it and was over it in 24/48 hours my 15 year old lad was completely exposed to it (shared a bed/food etc with the 11 year old) but he still hasn’t caught it. I’m hoping he catches a mild dose coz he won’t be getting vaccinated on my watch! If he decides he wants to, he can overrule you. Just another of the utterly mental things we’ve done in the name of this virus.
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Post by jack1 on Feb 27, 2022 23:08:06 GMT
Has anyone listened to the Joe Rogan podcast with Maajid Nawaz?
I have only know about him through his tweets and opionions on COVID, but his back storey is very interesting!
Very interesting to listen to whether you agree with him or not!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 27, 2022 23:15:54 GMT
Very interesting to listen to whether you agree with him or not! You want people to listen to the opinions of someone they disagree with? What do you think this is, the 1990's?
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Post by jack1 on Feb 27, 2022 23:35:08 GMT
Very interesting to listen to whether you agree with him or not! You want people to listen to the opinions of someone they disagree with? What do you think this is, the 1990's? I never said I want you to listen to him, thats up to you. I was just saying that I found it very interesting because he discusses his backgound which gives a very detailed insight into why and how his opinion are formed. If you don't know (I didn't) he was imprisoned and tortured when he was younger because of his radical views on Islam, he was trained to policticaly influence people, he has reformed his character but gave lots of incite on the events of the last two years. Edit - just realised that you may have been joking 😂
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Post by noustie on Feb 28, 2022 10:39:43 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/jcvi-dont-bite-the-hand/Financial conflicts within government advisory groupsThere’s a well known expression “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” It can be taken literally – if an animal bites the hand that feeds it, it won’t get fed. In the business or academic world, it means don’t upset your funder. It’s obvious really – if you do, they won’t fund you anymore. The bigger the amount received, the less of a good idea it is to upset the funder. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) “advises UK health departments on immunisation.” The JCVI has a sub-committee specifically to advise on COVID-19 vaccines. The chair of the JCVI, Professor Andrew Pollard, recused himself from all JCVI COVID-19 meetings because he is involved in the development of a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine at Oxford University – where he works. This was done to avoid any “perceived conflict of interest.”
Professor Lim Wei Shen was appointed chair of the JCVI sub-committee on COVID-19 vaccines. In August 2021, he stated categorically that 12-15 year olds would not be offered COVID-19 vaccines.[ii] Barely 6 weeks after that statement, 12-15 year olds were offered jabs.[iii] Barely 6 months later, on February 16th, 2022, the sub-committee issued a statement saying that, although 5-11 year olds are “generally at very low risk of serious illness from the virus”, they would be offered 2 doses of the Pfizer mRNA jab.[iv] This recommendation occurred despite the trials in children not being due for completion until May 2026.[v] We have previously noted that Professor Lim has a substantial conflict of interest: he has direct responsibility for material levels of funding received by his department from Pfizer.
web.archive.org/web/20211213113812/https://www.brit-thoracic.org.uk/about-us/committees-and-advisory-groups/clinical-audit-leads/35589/
At the time of writing, the most recent minutes for the sub-committee meetings are from May 2021. The sub-committee and main JCVI minutes report “Declarations of Interest” for the committee members. The Code of Practice describes the JCVI as “an independent Departmental Expert Committee and a statutory body.”[vi] Independent being the word of interest. One would expect this to mean “free from conflicts of interest”, but a closer look revealed that this was not the case.
The COVID-19 sub-committee of the JCVI has 15 core members (1 lay member). None of the members of this sub-committee declared conflicts of interests. Five of the 14 non-lay members provided additional information in their ‘non-declaration’ that revealed conflicts of interest. One, for example, declared funding from “the National Institute for Health Research, the Medical Research Council, the Wellcome Trust and Gavi, The Vaccine Alliance, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation”, but didn’t consider any of that vaccine funding as a conflict of interest. A cursory search on the remaining nine members revealed that six had conflicts of interest – from running a COVID-19 vaccine trial to being their organisation’s representative for Pfizer. One member failed to declare that he leads the Pfizer Vaccine Centre of Excellence in Bristol.
The members work for organisations, which collectively have received approximately $1,000,000,000 – one billion dollars – from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The Gates Foundation aims to “accelerate the development and commercialization of novel vaccines and the sustainable manufacture of existing vaccines.”[vii] No doubt the Gates Foundation would have welcomed the sub-committee’s decision.
The majority of the COVID-19 JCVI sub-committee members have conflicts of interest. These members don’t seem to realise that their research or institution receiving huge sums of money from pharmaceutical companies and/or the Gates Foundation is a conflict of interest.
Has this committee truly been able to provide an independent assessment of the risk and reward of the main products of interest of the Gates Foundation? Or has it made a decision to not bite the hand that feeds it?
Read full article here: www.zoeharcombe.com/2022/02/jcvi-conflicts-of-interest/
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 28, 2022 20:54:49 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/jcvi-dont-bite-the-hand/Financial conflicts within government advisory groupsThere’s a well known expression “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” It can be taken literally – if an animal bites the hand that feeds it, it won’t get fed. In the business or academic world, it means don’t upset your funder. It’s obvious really – if you do, they won’t fund you anymore. The bigger the amount received, the less of a good idea it is to upset the funder. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) “advises UK health departments on immunisation.” The JCVI has a sub-committee specifically to advise on COVID-19 vaccines. The chair of the JCVI, Professor Andrew Pollard, recused himself from all JCVI COVID-19 meetings because he is involved in the development of a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine at Oxford University – where he works. This was done to avoid any “perceived conflict of interest.”
Professor Lim Wei Shen was appointed chair of the JCVI sub-committee on COVID-19 vaccines. In August 2021, he stated categorically that 12-15 year olds would not be offered COVID-19 vaccines.[ii] Barely 6 weeks after that statement, 12-15 year olds were offered jabs.[iii] Barely 6 months later, on February 16th, 2022, the sub-committee issued a statement saying that, although 5-11 year olds are “generally at very low risk of serious illness from the virus”, they would be offered 2 doses of the Pfizer mRNA jab.[iv] This recommendation occurred despite the trials in children not being due for completion until May 2026.[v] We have previously noted that Professor Lim has a substantial conflict of interest: he has direct responsibility for material levels of funding received by his department from Pfizer.
web.archive.org/web/20211213113812/https://www.brit-thoracic.org.uk/about-us/committees-and-advisory-groups/clinical-audit-leads/35589/
At the time of writing, the most recent minutes for the sub-committee meetings are from May 2021. The sub-committee and main JCVI minutes report “Declarations of Interest” for the committee members. The Code of Practice describes the JCVI as “an independent Departmental Expert Committee and a statutory body.”[vi] Independent being the word of interest. One would expect this to mean “free from conflicts of interest”, but a closer look revealed that this was not the case.
The COVID-19 sub-committee of the JCVI has 15 core members (1 lay member). None of the members of this sub-committee declared conflicts of interests. Five of the 14 non-lay members provided additional information in their ‘non-declaration’ that revealed conflicts of interest. One, for example, declared funding from “the National Institute for Health Research, the Medical Research Council, the Wellcome Trust and Gavi, The Vaccine Alliance, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation”, but didn’t consider any of that vaccine funding as a conflict of interest. A cursory search on the remaining nine members revealed that six had conflicts of interest – from running a COVID-19 vaccine trial to being their organisation’s representative for Pfizer. One member failed to declare that he leads the Pfizer Vaccine Centre of Excellence in Bristol.
The members work for organisations, which collectively have received approximately $1,000,000,000 – one billion dollars – from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The Gates Foundation aims to “accelerate the development and commercialization of novel vaccines and the sustainable manufacture of existing vaccines.”[vii] No doubt the Gates Foundation would have welcomed the sub-committee’s decision.
The majority of the COVID-19 JCVI sub-committee members have conflicts of interest. These members don’t seem to realise that their research or institution receiving huge sums of money from pharmaceutical companies and/or the Gates Foundation is a conflict of interest.
Has this committee truly been able to provide an independent assessment of the risk and reward of the main products of interest of the Gates Foundation? Or has it made a decision to not bite the hand that feeds it?
Read full article here: www.zoeharcombe.com/2022/02/jcvi-conflicts-of-interest/
But you're not supposed to question anything or you're an anti vaxxer. I posed this question a while back to no reply....which people have put their children up for use as the first lab rats to test out this virus in the initial trial stages?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2022 7:02:07 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 1, 2022 7:14:46 GMT
Strange that, isn't it. Almost as if a certain country stands to gain by promoting division and discord across the west... Ordinarily, Starkiller et al, who love the idea of sinister behind-the-scenes forces working to provide disinformation, would be all over this kind of stuff. I'm guessing not this time!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 1, 2022 10:36:09 GMT
Day 9 and I’m still testing positive 🙄Anyone else been the same after that amount of time?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 1, 2022 10:48:24 GMT
Day 9 and I’m still testing positive 🙄Anyone else been the same after that amount of time? Well there's this bloke...
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 1, 2022 10:49:23 GMT
Day 9 and I’m still testing positive 🙄Anyone else been the same after that amount of time? My father tested positive for 11/12 days. You could test positive with a PCR for up to 3 months. You should clear tomorrow or the next day
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 1, 2022 10:55:44 GMT
Day 9 and I’m still testing positive 🙄Anyone else been the same after that amount of time? Well there's this bloke... 😮🙄78 times bloody hell fire
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