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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 15:40:36 GMT
My next door neighbour who got taken away in an ambulance yesterday, family have now put up a sign on their gate, saying keep away Christ mate - thats close to home - stay safe..... Someone on the compound where I work tested positive. Don't come into contact with anyone myself and everyone based on site self isolated . Did someone actally post a link to the Daily Mirror ๐๐
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Post by ParaPsych on Mar 25, 2020 16:00:43 GMT
Christ mate - thats close to home - stay safe..... Someone on the compound where I work tested positive. Don't come into contact with anyone myself and everyone based on site self isolated . Did someone actally post a link to the Daily Mirror ๐๐ The story from the Mirror has also been on Sky News, The Telegraph, Daily Mail, The Sun, The Express, ITV News, Metro, The Scotsman, New York Post, and a fair few others. Please could you provide a list of news sources you accept links to, just so people know.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 25, 2020 16:16:47 GMT
Coronavirus Bill clears Lords unamended.
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2020 16:28:17 GMT
My next door neighbour who got taken away in an ambulance yesterday, family have now put up a sign on their gate, saying keep away Christ mate - thats close to home - stay safe..... Too late, I've had it, posted yesterday for the first time in a while I had no contact with him as his drive runs past our house and the back garden, he's quite a way set back, so it wasn't me passing it on.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 16:32:51 GMT
The only thing more frightening than Donald is the people who keep voting for him. He is just the figurehead of a strange nation. But he didn't get most of the votes if you count individual votes, did he? He got most states. Isn't it how it works? Re-elected in November?That's my bet. The big anti-Obama wave in 2010 gave Republicans lots of states. 2010 was the year when election maps are drawn so they made maps where it's almost impossible to lose. Then they passed laws to prevent people from voting: purged voter rolls, banned people from voting for weed charges (target the poor & non-whites), passed ID laws that made it harder for students & non-car owners, then shut down polling and driving licence places in majority black areas. It's been a war on what we'd call free & fair elections. In 2018 the guy running for Governor as Georgia was the person whose job was to overseeing the election. He won, obviously. They blocked loads of Obama judge appointments in the Senate then stacked the courts once Trump got in. Even if 60% of Americans desperately wanted Trump gone, I'm not sure they'd allow it. There'd be an election but it would be tilted so comically far you'd need an even bigger margin, but they'd see that coming and use every government power they could get their hands on to ensure they win. My bet is that once Trump gets another supreme court seat that'll be it for the democrats for another decade. The question is whether Trump will go for a third term immediately or pass it off like Putin did.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 16:36:24 GMT
Christ mate - thats close to home - stay safe..... Too late, I've had it, posted yesterday for the first time in a while I had no contact with him as his drive runs past our house and the back garden, he's quite a way set back, so it wasn't me passing it on. That's got to make you feel a bit better! This is another reason we should be doing our best to self isolate, everyone needs to imagine how disgusted they'd feel with themselves if they were a link in the infection chain that killed their parents or their friends'. I might be carrying: day 6 of persistent dry cough and tight chest but no fever. Whatever I've got has been really mild so far, if I could just get a bloody test the I'd know whether I can help other people out after this has cleared up.
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2020 16:39:12 GMT
Too late, I've had it, posted yesterday for the first time in a while I had no contact with him as his drive runs past our house and the back garden, he's quite a way set back, so it wasn't me passing it on. That's got to make you feel a bit better! This is another reason we should be doing our best to self isolate, everyone needs to imagine how disgusted they'd feel with themselves if they were a link in the infection chain that killed their parents or their friends'. I might be carrying: day 6 of persistent dry cough and tight chest but no fever. Whatever I've got has been really mild so far, if I could just get a bloody test the I'd know whether I can help other people out after this has cleared up. Same here with the cough and chest, but with more of the flu symptoms as well, and in bed for a couple of days also. Not poorly enough to go to hospital so no test, NHS helpline say 'probably' and self isolate for 7 days from the start of the symptons, which ends on Friday.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 16:43:28 GMT
That's got to make you feel a bit better! This is another reason we should be doing our best to self isolate, everyone needs to imagine how disgusted they'd feel with themselves if they were a link in the infection chain that killed their parents or their friends'. I might be carrying: day 6 of persistent dry cough and tight chest but no fever. Whatever I've got has been really mild so far, if I could just get a bloody test the I'd know whether I can help other people out after this has cleared up. Same here with the cough and chest, but with more of the flu symptoms as well, and in bed for a couple of days also. Not poorly enough to go to hospital so no test, NHS helpline say 'probably' and self isolate for 7 days from the start of the symptons, which ends on Friday. Are you still coughing mate? My count would be 6 days & this doesn't feel like it's going away at all. I almost hope it's corona but I really have no clue. I want to volunteer for some of the charities getting supplies to those at risk, but there's no way I'll go near that shit when I could cough at any moment. My car would be a freaking plague wagon. Been really fatigued too, getting up to do anything is a real chore but that could just be the stress of the whole situation. I just want a damn test.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 25, 2020 16:49:52 GMT
Christ mate - thats close to home - stay safe..... Too late, I've had it, posted yesterday for the first time in a while I had no contact with him as his drive runs past our house and the back garden, he's quite a way set back, so it wasn't me passing it on. Does he support Witton or Northwich though, and was he at the game?
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 25, 2020 16:53:44 GMT
I do wonder if some or all of these younger people dying of Coronavirus has anything to do with vaping? Especially if vaping does in fact cause severe lung illness?? Just a thought as most youngsters/people seem to vape these days.
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Post by zerps on Mar 25, 2020 16:57:44 GMT
Boeing shares up 60% today. Makes sense.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 25, 2020 16:58:54 GMT
Same here with the cough and chest, but with more of the flu symptoms as well, and in bed for a couple of days also. Not poorly enough to go to hospital so no test, NHS helpline say 'probably' and self isolate for 7 days from the start of the symptons, which ends on Friday. Are you still coughing mate? My count would be 6 days & this doesn't feel like it's going away at all. I almost hope it's corona but I really have no clue. I want to volunteer for some of the charities getting supplies to those at risk, but there's no way I'll go near that shit when I could cough at any moment. My car would be a freaking plague wagon. Been really fatigued too, getting up to do anything is a real chore but that could just be the stress of the whole situation. I just want a damn test. Apparently some who have been cleared to go home from hospital after 14 days have still had the cough for a few days afterwards. I presume it's simply the case that even if you still have a cough after 7-14 days you can still be clear (i.e. recovered and non-infectious)
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2020 17:03:00 GMT
If the models used to inform government policy are correct, by the summer the number of new cases of Covid-19 will have fallen and restrictions can be lifted. But the models also predict that the virus will return in the autumn.
So should we reintroduce closures and shutdowns, inflicting further misery on the nation and economic damage, or let the epidemic run its course this time, hopefully building up this mystical โherd immunityโ that will suppress future outbreaks?
This is the million dollar question isn't it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2020 17:06:58 GMT
If the models used to inform government policy are correct, by the summer the number of new cases of Covid-19 will have fallen and restrictions can be lifted. But the models also predict that the virus will return in the autumn. So should we reintroduce closures and shutdowns, inflicting further misery on the nation and economic damage, or let the epidemic run its course this time, hopefully building up this mystical โherd immunityโ that will suppress future outbreaks? What to do next...? Make the right decisions at the right time I think the sensible plan would be to keep upping the ventilators we have and making sure that if people get symptons they go off work and get tested. And then follow it and isolate like South Korea have done. And if it gets out of hand, lock it down. But who knows? I think finding out how many people have had it there helps.
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 25, 2020 17:07:58 GMT
Update from Italy.
683 dead today.
The head of civil protection who announces the update every day is now isolating with a fever... Borrelli
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 17:09:50 GMT
Italian numbers just reported: "3,491 positive (yesterday 3,612), 683 dead (743) and 1,043 recovered". I'd ignore the positive numbers because they're not testing enough, but the number of dead has been hovering under ~800/day for about 4 days now. Another bit of evidence that maybe they're riding through the peak just like I'd hoped. But we still can't be sure, it might get worse
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 17:11:56 GMT
Are you still coughing mate? My count would be 6 days & this doesn't feel like it's going away at all. I almost hope it's corona but I really have no clue. I want to volunteer for some of the charities getting supplies to those at risk, but there's no way I'll go near that shit when I could cough at any moment. My car would be a freaking plague wagon. Been really fatigued too, getting up to do anything is a real chore but that could just be the stress of the whole situation. I just want a damn test. Apparently some who have been cleared to go home from hospital after 14 days have still had the cough for a few days afterwards. I presume it's simply the case that even if you still have a cough after 7-14 days you can still be clear (i.e. recovered and non-infectious) I wish I could get checked out on this but if they try to do anything outside of the test I'd have to pay the first $1500 plus 20% of anything else up to about $6k. If you see a doctor here (U.S.) they can run off all sorts of tests and things without giving you the price first. I've already got enough money problems without blowing $6k, and I'm not gonna self diagnose so I guess I'm stuck in lockdown until they make the tests easy for everyone.
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2020 17:13:01 GMT
If the models used to inform government policy are correct, by the summer the number of new cases of Covid-19 will have fallen and restrictions can be lifted. But the models also predict that the virus will return in the autumn. So should we reintroduce closures and shutdowns, inflicting further misery on the nation and economic damage, or let the epidemic run its course this time, hopefully building up this mystical โherd immunityโ that will suppress future outbreaks? What to do next...? Make the right decisions at the right time I think the sensible plan would be to keep upping the ventilators we have and making sure that if people get symptons they go off work and get tested. And then follow it and isolate like South Korea have done. And if it gets out of hand, lock it down. But who knows? I think finding out how many people have had it there helps. I do agree, finding out who has had it is massive, and we allegedly have that test, which is not quite the same as saying we have enough of whatever it requires to do that test or indeed enough people to carry out the test, but in principle at least it appears to be there. On a personal and selfish note wouldn't it be great to know you have had it already and not really noticed? You could kind of chill like never before!
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 25, 2020 17:13:47 GMT
Update from Italy. 683 dead today. The head of civil protection who announces the update every day is now isolating with a fever... Borrelli Not only is Borrelli sick and isolating but his colleague who announces the updates everyday with him, is in hospital in a serious condition, so looks like they both have it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2020 17:14:18 GMT
Apparently some who have been cleared to go home from hospital after 14 days have still had the cough for a few days afterwards. I presume it's simply the case that even if you still have a cough after 7-14 days you can still be clear (i.e. recovered and non-infectious) I wish I could get checked out on this but if they try to do anything outside of the test I'd have to pay the first $1500 plus 20% of anything else up to about $6k. If you see a doctor here (U.S.) they can run off all sorts of tests and things without giving you the price first. I've already got enough money problems without blowing $6k, and I'm not gonna self diagnose so I guess I'm stuck in lockdown until they make the tests easy for everyone. Why anyone would want a healthcare system like America I do not know. Utterly shameful way of doing things.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2020 17:17:29 GMT
Make the right decisions at the right time I think the sensible plan would be to keep upping the ventilators we have and making sure that if people get symptons they go off work and get tested. And then follow it and isolate like South Korea have done. And if it gets out of hand, lock it down. But who knows? I think finding out how many people have had it there helps. I do agree, finding out who has had it is massive, and we allegedly have that test, which is not quite the same as saying we have enough of whatever it requires to do that test or indeed enough people to carry out the test, but in principle at least it appears to be there. On a personal and selfish note wouldn't it be great to know you have had it already and not really noticed? You could kind of chill like never before! We do but only 3.5m for now. So that will be a good start for getting NHS staff back into work and helping the fight. I just hope that by the end of it we as a society improve. We fund the NHS correctly and don't go down the American route. And we just become a nicer bunch of people who help society more. People have been appalled with employers etc and hopefully that can lead to a bit of an enlightening with our way of life and habits.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
I do agree, finding out who has had it is massive, and we allegedly have that test, which is not quite the same as saying we have enough of whatever it requires to do that test or indeed enough people to carry out the test, but in principle at least it appears to be there. On a personal and selfish note wouldn't it be great to know you have had it already and not really noticed? You could kind of chill like never before! We do but only 3.5m for now. So that will be a good start for getting NHS staff back into work and helping the fight. I just hope that by the end of it we as a society improve. We fund the NHS correctly and don't go down the American route. And we just become a nicer bunch of people who help society more. People have been appalled with employers etc and hopefully that can lead to a bit of an enlightening with our way of life and habits. The news is fking depressing but someone just linked me this. "40,000 retired doctors and nurses have signed up to be part of a New York surge health care force to treat coronavirus patients" Probably older people, so more at risk. Things are rough now but remember that on the one hand there is Trump and his gaggle of a few hundred followers, and on the other there are 40,000 brave heroes.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 25, 2020 17:21:41 GMT
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 25, 2020 17:22:15 GMT
Charlie locked away in his holiday home on the Balmoral Estate is displaying MILD Symptoms.
I bet he has a ventilator standing by, and Inverness and Aberdeen hospitals are on notice that they may have a VIP visitor.
If admitted Nicola has been warned that she may not visit as the hospitals are situated in the former constitucies of Alex Salmond and he has been seen recently renewing his shotgun license.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2020 17:23:17 GMT
We do but only 3.5m for now. So that will be a good start for getting NHS staff back into work and helping the fight. I just hope that by the end of it we as a society improve. We fund the NHS correctly and don't go down the American route. And we just become a nicer bunch of people who help society more. People have been appalled with employers etc and hopefully that can lead to a bit of an enlightening with our way of life and habits. The news is fking depressing but someone just linked me this. "40,000 retired doctors and nurses have signed up to be part of a New York surge health care force to treat coronavirus patients" Probably older people, so more at risk. Things are rough now but remember that on the one hand there is Trump and his gaggle of a few hundred followers, and on the other there are 40,000 brave heroes. Yeah it is amazing and generally I do think people are pulling together. I think we've had 8,000 former NHS staff over here come out of retirement to help. It's an amazing sacrifice. Like at work, we're not key workers or anything and we can work from home but we're still humans and quite frankly working from home is fucking awful. And we're pulling together and try to keep eachother going and it's bloody lovely to see. That's why I hope to God that we will come out of this more appreciative of the things we should already cherish.
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2020 17:23:34 GMT
Same here with the cough and chest, but with more of the flu symptoms as well, and in bed for a couple of days also. Not poorly enough to go to hospital so no test, NHS helpline say 'probably' and self isolate for 7 days from the start of the symptons, which ends on Friday. Are you still coughing mate? My count would be 6 days & this doesn't feel like it's going away at all. I almost hope it's corona but I really have no clue. I want to volunteer for some of the charities getting supplies to those at risk, but there's no way I'll go near that shit when I could cough at any moment. My car would be a freaking plague wagon. Been really fatigued too, getting up to do anything is a real chore but that could just be the stress of the whole situation. I just want a damn test. Only slightly, one of the ladies in our running club had a chest infection in January, was coughing for weeks after but felt fine, weird shit about
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2020 17:24:50 GMT
Guessing that's South Staffs? There seems to be a hotspot in Brum/Black Country.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2020 17:25:39 GMT
Update from Italy. 683 dead today. The head of civil protection who announces the update every day is now isolating with a fever... Borrelli Not only is Borrelli sick and isolating but his colleague who announces the updates everyday with him, is in hospital in a serious condition, so looks like they both have it. La Repubblica keeps giving me "Error 503 Try Harder", is that some special Italian internet code? Horrible news on Borrelli, and the headline had 5 more doctors down. There's a lot of focus on the heroic medical staff but this is like a war, and people like Borrelli are our military intelligence. You can do a lot of good just with spreadsheets & code, but I can't imagine how each day has felt for him as he has to put together and then read through the numbers. I bet he's been suffering a lot more for a lot longer than he has with the flu.
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2020 17:26:01 GMT
If the models used to inform government policy are correct, by the summer the number of new cases of Covid-19 will have fallen and restrictions can be lifted. But the models also predict that the virus will return in the autumn. So should we reintroduce closures and shutdowns, inflicting further misery on the nation and economic damage, or let the epidemic run its course this time, hopefully building up this mystical โherd immunityโ that will suppress future outbreaks? This is the million dollar question isn't it? the immune antibody testing will help, if it's available to be widespread enough
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 25, 2020 17:26:12 GMT
Guessing that's South Staffs? There seems to be a hotspot in Brum/Black Country. Yes you may well be right
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