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Post by devondumpling on Mar 25, 2020 11:42:22 GMT
Construction update Don't buy a Redrow home - still open. Do but - Persimmon, Taylor Wimpey, Barratt - all shut, as is HS2.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 25, 2020 11:43:22 GMT
News item this morning on radio. "Travellers" struggling to get home from Thailand after flights were cancelled. Running out of money. Alternative ticket prices going up etc. Now effectively stranded. Why were they still there anyway, and should we feel sorry for them? My friend has been out in Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam for a job 8 months ago they tried getting back but all their direct flights were cancelled while they were checking in and then flights via a connection in the UAE were cancelled at the last minute too. In the past two weeks, she’s had around 5 flights home cancelled. She literally can’t get home. She has rang the embassy on multiple occasions. So yes, we should feel sorry for them because many have been screwed at the last minute.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 25, 2020 11:44:49 GMT
Spain death toll now 3,434 up 738 and now higher than China (3,285) Shit the bed.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2020 12:01:03 GMT
PMQ's about to start ...
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 25, 2020 12:01:09 GMT
Question/obsevation. The Prince of Wales has been tested positive for the Coronovirus and is self isolating with the Duchess of Cornwall at their home in Scotland. So how many Footmen and Flunkeys does it take to self isolate the Heir to the Throne? Be grateful it's not prince Andrew they might have to test half the local sixth form
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Post by bertiebigguns on Mar 25, 2020 12:01:24 GMT
Construction update Don't buy a Redrow home - still open. Do but - Persimmon, Taylor Wimpey, Barratt - all shut, as is HS2. Redrow homes all probably sold that’s why they are still working on them.
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2020 12:01:30 GMT
Question/obsevation. The Prince of Wales has been tested positive for the Coronovirus and is self isolating with the Duchess of Cornwall at their home in Scotland. So how many Footmen and Flunkeys does it take to self isolate the Heir to the Throne? Guess he does, or did, a lot of 'meet and greet'. 71 now, he looks tough as old boot leather to me, I can see him shrugging this one off.
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Post by f1rew0rks on Mar 25, 2020 12:02:22 GMT
Construction update Don't buy a Redrow home - still open. Do but - Persimmon, Taylor Wimpey, Barratt - all shut, as is HS2. I work on sites and find it absolutely crazy that they are still open. Im presently on a Redrow site (which hasn't closed yet), as with renaissance retirement, Pegasus retirement and (ironically) Affordable Housing and Healthcare! All still open up till last night!
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 25, 2020 12:05:01 GMT
Go on then, I'll bite. What exactly is Prince Charles working on from home? Sounds like our first proper case of a furloughed worker to me. Charlie and Cruella have fled North of the border to one of their holiday homes. The Scottish Govt have told the rest of us to stay away, and as I posted earlier, kicked people out and told them to leave Scotland and go home. I was going to put some remarks about the Royal family but can’t be bothered to cause an argument on here!😳 ⚓️
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 25, 2020 12:08:17 GMT
Corbyn has got a bit of a cough
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Post by foster on Mar 25, 2020 12:10:45 GMT
I'm not defending the cunt. I'm simply saying that there's a world of difference between A) someone who likely isn't infected, acting like a knob and licking some shampoo bottles, and B) Some hate spewing psycho stabbing, bombing, cutting peoples heads off or flying planes into buildings. I don't believe for 1 second that this bellend had any real intent to infect people. I just think he's just a stupid naive prick who's trying to look clever. A bit like Deli Ali and his stupid post prior to when the shit started to hit the fan. I think a little common sense needs to be exercised here. The guy is a complete fucking moron, but he's not a 'terrorist'. I think the common sense aspect foster, is that "Terrorist" doesn't just mean someone with a machete cutting someone's head off or someone flying a plane into a building....and indeed the word never has just meant that. The public creating an image in their own head of what a word means, does not therefore mean that that is now the new definition of the word i.e. your image of what a terrorist is will be different to someone else's view of what a terrorist is. That's public misunderstanding, nothing else and is the reason that words (and laws using those words) have actual definitions.
I know what you're saying Mick, but unfortunately how the word is perceived by the general public plays a bigger part than common sense and the dictionary definition used by the US legal system. If someone is labelled a 'terrorist' then they're grouped in with the real hardcore terrorists regardless of what they've done. There is no terrorist grading system. You're either a fully fledged 'death to the west', highschool massacre terrorist, or you're not. Stick 'minor terrorism charge' down on your CV and see if you ever get a job again. No chance. I still think it's too strong a word to use in this case and that more of a public order / negligent cuntish behaviour type of charge would have been more appropriate.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2020 12:15:56 GMT
News item this morning on radio. "Travellers" struggling to get home from Thailand after flights were cancelled. Running out of money. Alternative ticket prices going up etc. Now effectively stranded. Why were they still there anyway, and should we feel sorry for them?
Apparently they went BEFORE any travel restrictions were put in place.
That's a bit vague though i.e. if they went out 6-8 weeks ago, then fair enough there isn't a lot anyone could do and most wouldn't have foreseen the problem getting this bad. However, if they went out a day or so before restrictions were put in place and were just taking a gamble then they're fucking idiots to have gone anyway.
Hard to judge without full facts (which, as usual, the media don't want to give as "Fucking idiots trapped abroad through their own stupidity" wouldn't make as good a story)
To be fair, as of today, it is still less than 2 weeks since Johnson stood there and told the nation that the only way the nation's travel habits needed to change, was for people over 70 not to go on cruises! Personally I wouldn't have gone anywhere near an airport at that time but if people got on planes based on Johnson's (now terribly flawed) advice, then he has an absolute responsibility to get them back home.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 25, 2020 12:17:00 GMT
Terror charges... fucks sake. Talk about going overboard. Give him a public shaming and 3 months community service transporting coronavirus victims from the ICUs to the morgue, to give him some perspective. From Wikipedia: Under current United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended – (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."[2][3][4] Prestwich dislikes this in fact he dislikes anyone who has the gall to use Wiki. as a reference , he is such an expert on well everything.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 25, 2020 12:19:39 GMT
Which came first, Cyprus or Thurrock? Thurrock the weekend, then flew to Cyprus on the Thursday, then symptoms the following Week, so anywhere in that 14 day period, but I'd worked from home before going away, only mixing I did was to take the car in for a service on the Tuesday and go and watch Witton v Northwich on the Tuesday night So, some of the 'only' mixing you did was with a few hundred other football supporters
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 12:24:47 GMT
Real worry that Prince Charles now has COVID-19.
We have to assume that it is now heirborne.
No? Please yourselves....
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 25, 2020 12:28:36 GMT
Corbyn has got a bit of a cough I thought the same. I wonder is he going down with it ?
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2020 12:29:53 GMT
Corbyn has got a bit of a cough I thought the same. I wonder is he going down with it ? there will be a few on here hoping so.
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Post by dexta on Mar 25, 2020 12:33:18 GMT
Bozza looks like he needs some head and shoulders terrible dandruff on his jacket
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Post by Northy on Mar 25, 2020 12:33:54 GMT
Thurrock the weekend, then flew to Cyprus on the Thursday, then symptoms the following Week, so anywhere in that 14 day period, but I'd worked from home before going away, only mixing I did was to take the car in for a service on the Tuesday and go and watch Witton v Northwich on the Tuesday night So, some of the 'only' mixing you did was with a few hundred other football supporters 20 metre distance between every crowd member
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Post by Davef on Mar 25, 2020 12:41:37 GMT
From Wikipedia: Under current United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended – (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."[2][3][4] I'm not defending the cunt. I'm simply saying that there's a world of difference between A) someone who likely isn't infected, acting like a knob and licking some shampoo bottles, and B) Some hate spewing psycho stabbing, bombing, cutting peoples heads off or flying planes into buildings. I don't believe for 1 second that this bellend had any real intent to infect people. I just think he's just a stupid naive prick who's trying to look clever. A bit like Deli Ali and his stupid post prior to when the shit started to hit the fan. I think a little common sense needs to be exercised here. The guy is a complete fucking moron, but he's not a 'terrorist'. Its probably the easiest and quickest way to bring the full force of the law down on him and deter others as well.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2020 12:42:16 GMT
More worrying stuff. The comment by Ferguson doesn't add up.
For a start, its a massive IF, seeing as most people are confused about what the Government advice is (it changes daily) and are obviously not following it, Secondly it implies that this advice was somehow always planned, when that is not possible especially seeing as we have had a complete U-turn in approach. Herd immunity to Stay at Home. How would they have thought in Feb that the NHS capacity will be Ok as long as people follow Government advice when they didn't know what that advice would be in March.
It's just spin and trying to cover their own backs.
It also shows how selective the Government have been in taking advice. Experts?...but which experts?
"The editor of prominent medical journal The Lancet has told UK MPs that the government’s scientific advisers failed to take into account early warnings of the seriousness of the epidemic in China.
Dr Richard Horton told the Science Select Committee that this led to them adopting a “pedestrian approach” in preparing for the epidemic.
Dr Horton said papers from Chinese researchers published in the Lancet at the beginning of the year showed that the NHS was likely to be overwhelmed by cases. He said February was a “missed opportunity” to buy protective equipment and increase NHS capacity.
The government’s chief scientific and medical officers say they have drawn on advice from leading experts around the world – including from China.
One of the government’s leading advisers, Professor Neil Ferguson, said his modelling indicated that the NHS should be able to cope with the surge if people followed current government advice."
Note: up to 750,000 Finance Sectors are still going to work in London because that IS Government advice. How many of them will spreading the virus on the Tubes
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 25, 2020 12:48:03 GMT
Nice bit of spelling, let's hope they are nicely socialising and go down... Worst thing is most wont fool for it but the vulnerable will especially if in need of money now
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 25, 2020 12:51:21 GMT
I'm not defending the cunt. I'm simply saying that there's a world of difference between A) someone who likely isn't infected, acting like a knob and licking some shampoo bottles, and B) Some hate spewing psycho stabbing, bombing, cutting peoples heads off or flying planes into buildings. I don't believe for 1 second that this bellend had any real intent to infect people. I just think he's just a stupid naive prick who's trying to look clever. A bit like Deli Ali and his stupid post prior to when the shit started to hit the fan. I think a little common sense needs to be exercised here. The guy is a complete fucking moron, but he's not a 'terrorist'. Its probably the easiest and quickest way to bring the full force of the law down on him and deter others as well. Would be here if you look at the cps definition Terrorism is the use or threat of action, both in and outside of the UK, designed to influence any international government organisation or to intimidate the public. It must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause. Examples include: serious violence against a person or damage to property, endangering a person's life (other than that of the person committing the action), creating a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public, action designed to seriously interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.
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Post by felonious on Mar 25, 2020 12:54:26 GMT
Corbyn has got a bit of a cough He should be holed up at home for the next three months instead of ignoring government advice. He could be in the DNA CPR group
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 25, 2020 12:59:41 GMT
I thought the same. I wonder is he going down with it ? there will be a few on here hoping so. Mate I don't agree with his politics. He and his Momentum lunatics have knackered the Labour Party for years to come. But I wouldn't wish it on him.
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 25, 2020 13:00:00 GMT
I thought the same. I wonder is he going down with it ? there will be a few on here hoping so. Will there be and why?
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2020 13:02:21 GMT
Go on then, I'll bite. What exactly is Prince Charles working on from home? Sounds like our first proper case of a furloughed worker to me. Charlie and Cruella have fled North of the border to one of their holiday homes. The Scottish Govt have told the rest of us to stay away, and as I posted earlier, kicked people out and told them to leave Scotland and go home. I was going to put some remarks about the Royal family but can’t be bothered to cause an argument on here!😳 ⚓️[/b] Oh go on! You know you want to!
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Post by felonious on Mar 25, 2020 13:10:24 GMT
Apparently they went BEFORE any travel restrictions were put in place.
That's a bit vague though i.e. if they went out 6-8 weeks ago, then fair enough there isn't a lot anyone could do and most wouldn't have foreseen the problem getting this bad. However, if they went out a day or so before restrictions were put in place and were just taking a gamble then they're fucking idiots to have gone anyway.
Hard to judge without full facts (which, as usual, the media don't want to give as "Fucking idiots trapped abroad through their own stupidity" wouldn't make as good a story)
To be fair, as of today, it is still less than 2 weeks since Johnson stood there and told the nation that the only way the nation's travel habits needed to change, was for people over 70 not to go on cruises! Personally I wouldn't have gone anywhere near an airport at that time but if people got on planes based on Johnson's (now terribly flawed) advice, then he has an absolute responsibility to get them back home. To be fair Abta were telling all and sundry 4 weeks ago that it was ok to go on cruises as the plague ship was sitting in the dock. I know this because I was chatting to a travel agent friend and telling her that there was no way I'd be getting on a boat under any circumstances or a plane for that matter as the Benidorm Half marathon was booked about three weeks back. Her response was to put her mobile phone in front of my face and scroll through pages of Abta advice saying travel was ok.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2020 13:12:19 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2020 13:15:29 GMT
To be fair, as of today, it is still less than 2 weeks since Johnson stood there and told the nation that the only way the nation's travel habits needed to change, was for people over 70 not to go on cruises! Personally I wouldn't have gone anywhere near an airport at that time but if people got on planes based on Johnson's (now terribly flawed) advice, then he has an absolute responsibility to get them back home. To be fair Abta were telling all and sundry 4 weeks ago that it was ok to go on cruises as the plague ship was sitting in the dock. I know this because I was chatting to a travel agent friend and telling her that there was no way I'd be getting on a boat under any circumstances or a plane for that matter as the Benidorm Half marathon was booked about three weeks back. Her response was to put her mobile phone in front of my face and scroll through pages of Abta advice saying travel was ok. Yes, I remember you posting it at the time and thinking that they were clearly only thinking about their top line and had zero concern for their customers. Having said that, if the government were telling them it was okay, then why should they think that it wasn't.
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