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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 24, 2021 13:18:55 GMT
Doesn’t seem that many to be fair 1 death is bad enough. Bollocks to it then, we’ll live indoors for the rest of our lives.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 24, 2021 13:19:33 GMT
Most papers speculating May or even the summer. So what happened to all the well be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place.
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 24, 2021 13:20:57 GMT
Seen a few news reports that Gavin Williamson is due to announce pushing back school reopening until after Easter at the earliest. That's the middle of April for most. The young are going to end up suffering the most from all this. Education chucked on the scrap heap for more than a year and the sort of entry level jobs to gain work experience will be completely decimated.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 24, 2021 13:21:20 GMT
So what happened to all the well be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. I hope you’re right but I’m getting concerned that we’ll see rolling lockdowns and restrictions for many years now.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2021 13:22:43 GMT
So what happened to all the well be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. I'm with you there mate. This is what I'm praying for. This crazed lockdown, covid obsessed madness cannot continue into the spring.
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Post by drfootball on Jan 24, 2021 13:27:51 GMT
Doesn’t seem that many to be fair 1 death is bad enough. If you're hoping that this will be eradicated like smallpox you're heading for disappointment. And lots of people die every day from lots of different things. As Van Tam said yesterday there will have to be a level of accepted risk like we have with flu.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 24, 2021 13:29:10 GMT
It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. I'm with you there mate. This is what I'm praying for. This crazed lockdown, covid obsessed madness cannot continue into the spring. I walked into the corner shop by my workplace the other day in a bit of a daydream and forgot to chuck a mask on and didn’t realise until the bloke had started to serve me, and I felt guilty for what is ordinarily a completely mundane daily task. How have we got to this point? Why should we be yearning for the time when we can see our friends and family without being made to feel like criminals? We aren’t supposed to live like this, I’ve been stuck inside the entirety of winter so far and there’s still another fucking MONTH of it left. Please let this shit end, please.
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Post by westlandstokie on Jan 24, 2021 13:29:17 GMT
So what happened to all the well be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. Totally correct with this mate...they will keep moving the goalposts until something gives with the public, whether it be mass protests or civil unrest. Then miraculously things will get slightly better over night...not better for all the small business owners though who go bust. Interesting times ahead and you just know that Boris and his cronies will totally balls it up and blame the public.
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 13:29:22 GMT
Number 9 under More important Info, about Israel ... 12400 people tested positive for Corona after the Pfizer vaccination. Isn't the Pfizer vaccine containing Corona virus? A dreadful amount of different possible "itis" in the side effects list there. I have had enough of those the last two years!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 24, 2021 13:31:33 GMT
If you're hoping that this will be eradicated like smallpox you're heading for disappointment. And lots of people die every day from lots of different things. As Van Tam said yesterday there will have to be a level of accepted risk like we have with flu. Did Van Tam say that? If so at least that’s encouraging. Did he give any directional thought on what the barometer/threshold for this acceptable risk is/will be?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 24, 2021 13:31:43 GMT
I don’t see how they keep pushing things back when vaccination and case numbers are going the right way.
If it’s spin to make them look like heroes then that’s pretty pathetic but if these new dates are accurate, it’s just as bad. Especially the kids and schools. They are going to end up like social outcasts. I can live without going to the football for a few months because by the time we maybe *could* look at going back, there will only be a few games left anyway.
Other things have to get back to normal within the next 3 months.
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Post by Davef on Jan 24, 2021 13:37:17 GMT
So what happened to all the well be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. More PPE than PR.
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Post by drfootball on Jan 24, 2021 13:37:45 GMT
If you're hoping that this will be eradicated like smallpox you're heading for disappointment. And lots of people die every day from lots of different things. As Van Tam said yesterday there will have to be a level of accepted risk like we have with flu. Did Van Tam say that? If so at least that’s encouraging. Did he give any directional thought on what the barometer/threshold for this acceptable risk is/will be? Yes, in an interview piece on the BBC website yesterday (sorry,can't do the link). He said something along the lines that as we accept between 10 and 20,000 flu deaths a year a similar level of CoVid deaths might be acceptable to the plebs.
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 13:38:36 GMT
I don't know ONE person irl who have had Covid-19, not among neighbours, former school and job mates, family or relatives. Hundreds of people.
And I don't know ONE person who are willing to take the vaccine either.
This must be odd.🙄
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Post by mutters on Jan 24, 2021 13:47:25 GMT
If you're hoping that this will be eradicated like smallpox you're heading for disappointment. And lots of people die every day from lots of different things. As Van Tam said yesterday there will have to be a level of accepted risk like we have with flu. I think my first post on this thread was something like we need to accept the risks on our daily lives and move forward Seems a lifetime ago but here we a government adviser stating what to me, is the obvious, let's move forward with our lives and the sooner the better!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2021 13:47:45 GMT
BBC headline now "UK has 77 cases of the South African variant". How have these cunts not been defunded yet.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2021 13:54:52 GMT
If you're hoping that this will be eradicated like smallpox you're heading for disappointment. And lots of people die every day from lots of different things. As Van Tam said yesterday there will have to be a level of accepted risk like we have with flu. I think my first post on this thread was something like we need to accept the risks on our daily lives and move forward Seems a lifetime ago but here we a government adviser stating what to me, is the obvious, let's move forward with our lives and the sooner the better! It's a good point mutters. One of my big concerns is at what point is the risk acceptable. Hundreds of thousands die of the flu each year as they do countless other illnesses. People do die sometimes, unfortunately. The current lockdown is justified at the moment because of previous fuck ups but they absolutely can't let this madness carry on much longer. The country is on its knees. The vaccinations are going incredible well, the most vulnerable will all be at least partially protected by Mid Feb, let's get some fucking normality back by end of Feb. Living in a totalitarian state any longer than is absolutely necessary is totally unacceptable and those responsible would have to be investigated and hopefully arrested. This whole mask wearing shit surely has to stop when the restrictions end too.
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 13:57:22 GMT
Ten years ago I read an issue of Illustrated Science in the waiting room at my health clinic. An article was very promising, talked about the 2nd level of goal searching medicine without any side effects whatsoever.
Now, 10 years later, I wonder: what happened to them?
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Post by bertiebigguns on Jan 24, 2021 14:00:16 GMT
This is worth a read... Why Imperial College’s REACT study is so problematicIt is perfectly ok for experts to disagree, but they have an obligation to present their findings honestly. Imperial College would appear to have not done this, as that article demonstrates. This is really important for people to get their heads round. The Government are basing their decision making on data presented to them by Imperial and this data in itself, is based on BAD science. Can somebody explain to me the selective use of science to dictate our every day lives. Why is the science dismissed for the promotion of 100 genders (BBC Education Channels) but is fundamental and goes against civil liberties, education, health, livelihoods and the economy in the fight against Covid-19?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 24, 2021 14:01:00 GMT
Ten years ago I read an issue of Illustrated Science in the waiting room at my health clinic. An article was very promising, talked about the 2nd level of goal searching medicine without any side effects whatsoever. Now, 10 years later, I wonder: what happened to them? You are describing my job. I research compounds that we can give to patients in receipt of chemotherapy to reduce and eliminate the side effects of chemotherapy drugs. But ensuring they do not interfere with the ability of the drug itself to kill off the cancer. It’s not straightforward, drugs like chemo especially the older ones are very effective because they are essentially poisons. But they are non-discriminate and will hit healthy sites too. It’s not always easy to reverse those effects but research into it is constantly ongoing.
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Post by westlandstokie on Jan 24, 2021 14:04:38 GMT
It’s all PR, keep moving the goalposts so people are disheartened and then all of a sudden spring a surprise lifting of restrictions on people so they look like the best people ever, people will be so happy to have their lives back they’ll forget to give the government the absolute panning they need to receive. At least that’s what I’m hoping, it’s the only thing keeping me going currently, if it does indeed turn out to be true then expect civil unrest all over the place. More PPE than PR. I just watched that short video clip and it didn’t surprise me one bit. This is why the restrictions will continue for a lot longer yet...too many “Tory friends” are lining their pockets out of it. All we can do is remember all this and vote them out when we can...hopefully we will have a viable third party by then as well.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 24, 2021 14:06:11 GMT
I think my first post on this thread was something like we need to accept the risks on our daily lives and move forward Seems a lifetime ago but here we a government adviser stating what to me, is the obvious, let's move forward with our lives and the sooner the better! It's a good point mutters. One of my big concerns is at what point is the risk acceptable. Hundreds of thousands die of the flu each year as they do countless other illnesses. People do die sometimes, unfortunately. The current lockdown is justified at the moment because of previous fuck ups but they absolutely can't let this madness carry on much longer. The country is on its knees. The vaccinations are going incredible well, the most vulnerable will all be at least partially protected by Mid Feb, let's get some fucking normality back by end of Feb. Living in a totalitarian state any longer than is absolutely necessary is totally unacceptable and those responsible would have to be investigated and hopefully arrested. This whole mask wearing shit surely has to stop when the restrictions end too. The defence for the restrictions is getting borderline psychotic now. People get stabbed, so should we ban knives? People die in car accidents, should we ban all cars? People die of (legal) substance abuse, should we ban alcohol and tobacco? People die in workplace accidents, should we ban all workplaces? People die tripping over, so should we ban walking? People die of obesity, so should we ban all unhealthy food? It goes on and on, yes it’s hyperbole but how some are harping on about the restrictions and crucifying everyone who doesn’t share their insane view it would seem their answer to everything is to just ban it and throw everyone who disagrees in jail. I’ve always thought living in a post-apocalyptic society where the people devolve into complete nut jobs was something I’d only ever see virtually, I didn’t think I’d be seeing it in reality.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 24, 2021 14:13:13 GMT
I think my first post on this thread was something like we need to accept the risks on our daily lives and move forward Seems a lifetime ago but here we a government adviser stating what to me, is the obvious, let's move forward with our lives and the sooner the better! It's a good point mutters. One of my big concerns is at what point is the risk acceptable. Hundreds of thousands die of the flu each year as they do countless other illnesses. People do die sometimes, unfortunately. The current lockdown is justified at the moment because of previous fuck ups but they absolutely can't let this madness carry on much longer. The country is on its knees. The vaccinations are going incredible well, the most vulnerable will all be at least partially protected by Mid Feb, let's get some fucking normality back by end of Feb. Living in a totalitarian state any longer than is absolutely necessary is totally unacceptable and those responsible would have to be investigated and hopefully arrested. This whole mask wearing shit surely has to stop when the restrictions end too. What exactly do you mean by “mask-wearing shit”, out of interest? I ask because I live in a country where masks have been adopted more or less wholesale and unquestioningly for most of the last twelve months. From early on in the crisis it became very rare to see anyone anywhere not wearing a mask outside the house. Coming from that context I really struggle to get my head round the debate and controversy you see about it in the UK.
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Post by chad on Jan 24, 2021 14:13:37 GMT
They publish first and second inoculation figures So what is the real figure for the people who have had the two part vaccine, both jabs,? I think yesterday it was around 400k
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 14:15:06 GMT
People die in workplace accidents, should we ban all workplaces? In all this mess, one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. 🤣😁🤭 On a serious note the guys at FHM, Sweden, said a couple of weeks ago that Corona is a part of our society now and even if we succeed with the vaccination program we will have to keep the social distancing, work from home and maintain extra good hand hygiene for years to come.
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Post by chad on Jan 24, 2021 14:17:07 GMT
And that videos true because ???? What do you mean? I mean how do you know when the video was from. Could have been years old I’m pretty sure the random twitter poster didn’t take it himself
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 24, 2021 14:20:53 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jan 24, 2021 14:22:34 GMT
Seen a few news reports that Gavin Williamson is due to announce pushing back school reopening until after Easter at the earliest. That's the middle of April for most. Most papers speculating May or even the summer. I've seen the one about May half term, it's madness to say the very least. My wife is of the opinion schools will not return to full capacity this education year, parents will be pushed and pushed until it's "too late" and schools magically won't have the resources to reopen close to the summer. Basically starting again in September which is closer to the point at which most adults are to be vaccinated or thereabouts. What on earth is happening
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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2021 14:24:49 GMT
Most papers speculating May or even the summer. So what happened to all the we’ll be back to something approaching normal by April? Goalposts moving by the week is concerning We could probably do with a few less people dying I guess. The current 7 day average daily death rate is about 1,250 when I last looked and still rising. The highest of any country in the world I think Andrew Marr said this morning. It's hard to see it coming down any time soon when they are reporting people on ventilators just topped 4000 more than at any time in wave 1. I'm also thinking how painfully slow the death rate was to come down in wave 1. And to think we have so many more treatments now. Wave 2 has hit us like a steaming train. There's quite some heavy lifting still left to go it would seem before we are out of this living nightmare!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 24, 2021 14:27:16 GMT
BBC headline now "UK has 77 cases of the South African variant". How have these cunts not been defunded yet. Sky headlines also
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