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Post by numpty40 on Nov 26, 2020 18:19:51 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded. Dark times. I seem to be nodding my head in agreement with starkiller's views with every passing day😐
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 26, 2020 18:21:04 GMT
Which is why they've completely lost the public. You are actually right - there's a poll on here that says 58% of people think the government is being too lenient and only 22% think they have got it about right. 10% think they are being too restrictive. I'm afraid your revolution isn't going to happen any time soon. It will, give it time. I will bump this after the 2024 General election result 😊 Big Nige will be back with a bang and will produce the most stunning result in British political history with his new Reform party. He already holds the record for doing it once in 2016 😉 For what it's worth I also think a hard left party should and will form. This parliament and establishment is rotten to the core and people on the right and the left are totally sick of it. Can you honestly say that you think this parliament is remotely "in touch" with the people? It's a total horror show and credibility with the public is at an all time low. Watch out for the local election results in May. That will give you a true indication and consensus of what people think of this government and wider Parliament. Their decision making throughout this pandemic has been utterly disastrous. People are already waking up to the fact that we are heading into the biggest economical crisis since the 18th century.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 26, 2020 18:21:43 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 26, 2020 18:23:07 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do something that may resemble normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded it's got this far. Dark times. Yep. Bang on. Its just staggering how brainwashed people have bought into these lies. You can totally see how radicalisation happens in corrupt regimes. And let's not forget the utterly disgusting lamestream media outlets that have driven this agenda. Which makes the Guardian article yesterday claiming they were scared we were heading into an economical catastrophe even more hysterically dumb. No shit.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 26, 2020 18:24:50 GMT
I'm not worried about shit spouted on Twitter... Honestly, everything linked to on Twitter isn't shit but if that's what works for you, then hey, that's what works for you, I guess. As I said... I'm not worried about the SHIT spouted on twitter.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 26, 2020 18:25:13 GMT
I'm not worried about shit spouted on Twitter... Honestly, everything linked to on Twitter isn't shit but if that's what works for you, then hey, that's what works for you, I guess. As I said... I'm not worried about the SHIT spouted on twitter.
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Post by MilanStokie on Nov 26, 2020 18:25:44 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do something that may resemble normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded it's got this far. Dark times. You are going to run out of decimals to add soon. Everytime you post the same old bollocks each day, you seem to add 0.1% from absolutely nowhere. Boring.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 26, 2020 18:29:42 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded. Dark times. I seem to be nodding my head in agreement with starkiller's views with every passing day😐 Be careful.. It will fall off 😁
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 26, 2020 18:33:14 GMT
Honestly, everything linked to on Twitter isn't shit but if that's what works for you, then hey, that's what works for you, I guess. As I said... I'm not worried about the SHIT spouted on twitter. Yeah you said that yesterday, that's your (as I acknowledged) prerogative mate. Having said that, the piece that I provided the Twitter link to is now mainstream news today.
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Post by whatsashig on Nov 26, 2020 18:33:43 GMT
You are actually right - there's a poll on here that says 58% of people think the government is being too lenient and only 22% think they have got it about right. 10% think they are being too restrictive. I'm afraid your revolution isn't going to happen any time soon. It will, give it time. I will bump this after the 2023 General election result 😊 Big Nige will be back with a bang and will produce the most stunning result in British political history with his new Reform party. He already holds the record for doing it once in 2016 😉 For what it's worth I also think a hard left party should and will form. This parliament and establishment is rotten to the core and people on the right and the left are totally sick of it. Can you honestly say that you think this parliament is remotely "in touch" with the people? It's a total horror show and credibility with the public is at an all time low. Watch out for the local election results in May. That will give you a true indication and consensus of what people think of this government and wider Parliament. Their decision making throughout this pandemic has been utterly disastrous. People are already waking up to the fact that we are heading into the biggest economical crisis since the 18th century. Agree the decision making has been awful, that was the feeling at early stages now we know with hindsight that there was truly awful decisions so the government now have this hindsight, are they making more sensible choices about what to do going forward. Not defending the buggers in charge am just trying think of the critical things that they got wrong early and considering now
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 26, 2020 18:36:12 GMT
I don't know whether this has been posted but worth a look.
It's all so bloody depressing
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 26, 2020 18:38:17 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do something that may resemble normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded it's got this far. Dark times. Sadly this is too close to the truth for comfort
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 26, 2020 18:38:22 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 26, 2020 18:50:51 GMT
It will, give it time. I will bump this after the 2023 General election result 😊 Big Nige will be back with a bang and will produce the most stunning result in British political history with his new Reform party. He already holds the record for doing it once in 2016 😉 For what it's worth I also think a hard left party should and will form. This parliament and establishment is rotten to the core and people on the right and the left are totally sick of it. Can you honestly say that you think this parliament is remotely "in touch" with the people? It's a total horror show and credibility with the public is at an all time low. Watch out for the local election results in May. That will give you a true indication and consensus of what people think of this government and wider Parliament. Their decision making throughout this pandemic has been utterly disastrous. People are already waking up to the fact that we are heading into the biggest economical crisis since the 18th century. Agree the decision making has been awful, that was the feeling at early stages now we know with hindsight that there was truly awful decisions so the government now have this hindsight, are they making more sensible choices about what to do going forward. Not defending the buggers in charge am just trying think of the critical things that they got wrong early and considering now To be honest mate I backed the first lockdown. The continued lockdown after June was the nuclear bomb that's fucked the nation up for decades, not the first lockdown. We could have bounced back from that. We are wayyyy too far gone now. By June next year we'll be in the biggest crash since the Romans invaded the Celts. We've seen nothing yet. This government may as well walk now because they won't be winning an election in a long time.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 18:55:18 GMT
No but we should put a goods embargo on there masters China until North Korea behave and China abides by the rule of international law And treats it minorities decently So why the difference from a moral perspective? Because I don’t personally like the idea of bombing anyone And I personally don’t like any country that persecute its own Citizens Which is why I refuse to buy anything form Israel or the occupied territories I also where possible do not purchase anything from China
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
Agree the decision making has been awful, that was the feeling at early stages now we know with hindsight that there was truly awful decisions so the government now have this hindsight, are they making more sensible choices about what to do going forward. Not defending the buggers in charge am just trying think of the critical things that they got wrong early and considering now To be honest mate I backed the first lockdown. The continued lockdown after June was the nuclear bomb that's fucked the nation up for decades, not the first lockdown. We could have bounced back from that. We are wayyyy too far gone now. By June next year we'll be in the biggest crash since the Romans invaded the Celts. We've seen nothing yet. This government may as well walk now because they won't be winning an election in a long time. So the opposition who have backed the government to the hilt will ?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2020 19:09:55 GMT
Some people are wearing them alone in their own cars and outside in the middle of nowhere so it's not a stretch to believe that they're wearing them in their own homes. Yep saw a lad mowing his lawn last week with one on! It’s getting ridiculous. Most people don’t even wear them correctly anyway!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2020 19:12:18 GMT
Absolutely horrific how people have allowed themselves to be played and subjugated to this extent by behaviourial psychologists. Rewards and punishments for behaviour. Tighten then release, as I predicted months ago. All whilst been told it's because they care for you. The work of a gaslighting abuser. Rules which are simply nothing more than trolling the public on a mass scale. Pushed towards an agenda of a jab of unknown and unnecessary substance every year to simply do normal stuff. Tracked, traced, banned, controlled, ordered and punished. Soon you'll forget what real living was, and what it means to be human. All for something with a 99.8 survival rate, using the state's own official fraudulent stats. Thanks to everyone who is still gripped by this official nonsense. I'm astounded. Dark times. I seem to be nodding my head in agreement with starkiller's views with every passing day😐 I agree with the curtailment of liberties but can’t get onboard with the Global 1% elite reset. Who do the 1% expect to buy their goods/services with economies in ruins and vast swathes of people unemployed
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2020 19:18:21 GMT
So why the difference from a moral perspective? Because I don’t personally like the idea of bombing anyone And I personally don’t like any country that persecute its own Citizens Which is why I refuse to buy anything form Israel or the occupied territories I also where possible do not purchase anything from China So you wouldn’t also buy anything from the USA who support Israel’s position?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 26, 2020 19:19:33 GMT
I’d like to know why London and Liverpool are in Tier 2. So the science says their numbers are down but why is that? Everybody knows London is THE place more than anywhere people are in close contact. I went to Liverpool for the day when restrictions were a bit more lax and it was heaving, a real eye opener compared to Stoke. My opinion is that both of these places have developed an immunity to the virus and are on the downward slope.....
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 19:21:48 GMT
Because I don’t personally like the idea of bombing anyone And I personally don’t like any country that persecute its own Citizens Which is why I refuse to buy anything form Israel or the occupied territories I also where possible do not purchase anything from China So you wouldn’t also buy anything from the USA who support Israel’s position? I try where possible to by British which hopefully after brexit will become easier As for America’s stance on Israel it’s as credible as its performance on covid
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 26, 2020 19:22:06 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2020 19:29:49 GMT
More from Cummins and a bit of a rehash
But there is an interesting bit on Vit D deficiency in the elderly in Japan and Italy and the resultant death rates
I’m popping a vit D supplement as I type 🤣
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 26, 2020 19:32:39 GMT
To be honest mate I backed the first lockdown. The continued lockdown after June was the nuclear bomb that's fucked the nation up for decades, not the first lockdown. We could have bounced back from that. We are wayyyy too far gone now. By June next year we'll be in the biggest crash since the Romans invaded the Celts. We've seen nothing yet. This government may as well walk now because they won't be winning an election in a long time. So the opposition who have backed the government to the hilt will ? Pfff fair point mate. But I think they will because I genuinely think Farage can do a Nick Clegg and take 40/50 seats at the next election. I can say with confidence Farage's new party will massively fuck things up in a good way (good in my opinion because I think he's great). They are getting millions ploughed into it by the day and have some of the best sales brains in the world behind the running of the campaigns. I know it all sounds farfetched but people told me that in 2010/11/12/13/14 about brexit and in 2012 when Trump was announced as opposition that they would never win. They didn't just beat the government... They beat the entire establishment combined with almost the entirity of the mainstream media against them. BBC won't even recognise Farage's new party. Its gonna be fun watching him eat those fuckers alive. If I was a betting man I'd put my money on a Labour/Reform UK coalition in 2024. I know that sounds utterly ridiculous given the right/left contrast but I think it will happen. We'll be in the biggest crash in history and the North will be utterly on its knees. Watch it happen 😉 Btw, for the record, I think Labour are a pile of shit too.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 26, 2020 19:35:53 GMT
You are actually right - there's a poll on here that says 58% of people think the government is being too lenient and only 22% think they have got it about right. 10% think they are being too restrictive. I'm afraid your revolution isn't going to happen any time soon. It will, give it time. I will bump this after the 2024 General election result 😊 Big Nige will be back with a bang and will produce the most stunning result in British political history with his new Reform party. He already holds the record for doing it once in 2016 😉 For what it's worth I also think a hard left party should and will form. This parliament and establishment is rotten to the core and people on the right and the left are totally sick of it. Can you honestly say that you think this parliament is remotely "in touch" with the people? It's a total horror show and credibility with the public is at an all time low. Watch out for the local election results in May. That will give you a true indication and consensus of what people think of this government and wider Parliament. Their decision making throughout this pandemic has been utterly disastrous. People are already waking up to the fact that we are heading into the biggest economical crisis since the 18th century. I absolutely agree a hard left and a hard right party need to form because they represent a significant number of people. It would also help both Labour and the Tories as they would no longer have to try to appease different groups of people with fundamentally opposing views. However you are massively overstating the support for theses parties - it's quite clear the majority of people support the government over Covid and with the first past the post system minority parties of whatever persuasion don't have a cat in hell's chance of making any headway in a general election. The people you knock about with might share your views but your making exactly the same mistake Corbyn made in terms of projecting how your group thinks onto the rest of the population. As to local government elections they are pretty meaningless. Parties in power always do badly midterm and people take the opportunity to register a protest vote and then gravitate back to the mainstream during general elections. You've also said on a number of occasions that there will be rioting. Again I agree but the effect will be to drive more people back into the centre ground. Have your fun, don't get too badly hurt and once you've had your belly full of having the shit kicked out of you by a left wing thug or the security services just chill and enjoy your Tory fund raising coffee mornings.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 26, 2020 19:41:40 GMT
It will, give it time. I will bump this after the 2024 General election result 😊 Big Nige will be back with a bang and will produce the most stunning result in British political history with his new Reform party. He already holds the record for doing it once in 2016 😉 For what it's worth I also think a hard left party should and will form. This parliament and establishment is rotten to the core and people on the right and the left are totally sick of it. Can you honestly say that you think this parliament is remotely "in touch" with the people? It's a total horror show and credibility with the public is at an all time low. Watch out for the local election results in May. That will give you a true indication and consensus of what people think of this government and wider Parliament. Their decision making throughout this pandemic has been utterly disastrous. People are already waking up to the fact that we are heading into the biggest economical crisis since the 18th century. I absolutely agree a hard left and a hard right party need to form because they represent a significant number of people. It would also help both Labour and the Tories as they would no longer have to try to appease different groups of people with fundamentally opposing views. However you are massively overstating the support for theses parties - it's quite clear the majority of people support the government over Covid and with the first past the post system minority parties of whatever persuasion don't have a cat in hell's chance of making any headway in a general election. The people you knock about with might share your views but your making exactly the same mistake Corbyn made in terms of projecting how your group thinks onto the rest of the population. As to local government elections they are pretty meaningless. Parties in power always do badly midterm and people take the opportunity to register a protest vote and then gravitate back to the mainstream during general elections. You've also said on a number of occasions that there will be rioting. Again I agree but the effect will be to drive more people back into the centre ground. Have your fun, don't get too badly hurt and once you've had your belly full of having the shit kicked out of you by a left wing thug or the security services just chill and enjoy your Tory fund raising coffee mornings. Haha! All noted mate. Hopefully the Islington elite don't go too hard on us anti-wokesters 😉 I agree with a lot of that 100%. But I can assure you these are not normal times and the state of the country in a few years will make the 80s look like a bit of a laugh. Let's see. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we are both wrong. But it's nice to dream that a party can shake up a failing establishment. For what it's worth I think Farage will get a hell of a lot more support than any far left party that gets created. But I do think we should follow the nordics and get hard right and hard left back in the game. They'll never win elections but they'll hold parliament to account and that's what we need - as Covid has illustrated perfectly.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 26, 2020 19:54:31 GMT
Agree the decision making has been awful, that was the feeling at early stages now we know with hindsight that there was truly awful decisions so the government now have this hindsight, are they making more sensible choices about what to do going forward. Not defending the buggers in charge am just trying think of the critical things that they got wrong early and considering now To be honest mate I backed the first lockdown. The continued lockdown after June was the nuclear bomb that's fucked the nation up for decades, not the first lockdown. We could have bounced back from that. We are wayyyy too far gone now. By June next year we'll be in the biggest crash since the Romans invaded the Celts. We've seen nothing yet. This government may as well walk now because they won't be winning an election in a long time. Unnamed Tory grandee quoted on Newsnight last night ... "We won a General Election by criticising Jeremy Corbyn for having his magic money tree, well we've only gone and found ourselves an entire magic money forest!"
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 26, 2020 19:55:36 GMT
I absolutely agree a hard left and a hard right party need to form because they represent a significant number of people. It would also help both Labour and the Tories as they would no longer have to try to appease different groups of people with fundamentally opposing views. However you are massively overstating the support for theses parties - it's quite clear the majority of people support the government over Covid and with the first past the post system minority parties of whatever persuasion don't have a cat in hell's chance of making any headway in a general election. The people you knock about with might share your views but your making exactly the same mistake Corbyn made in terms of projecting how your group thinks onto the rest of the population. As to local government elections they are pretty meaningless. Parties in power always do badly midterm and people take the opportunity to register a protest vote and then gravitate back to the mainstream during general elections. You've also said on a number of occasions that there will be rioting. Again I agree but the effect will be to drive more people back into the centre ground. Have your fun, don't get too badly hurt and once you've had your belly full of having the shit kicked out of you by a left wing thug or the security services just chill and enjoy your Tory fund raising coffee mornings. Haha! All noted mate. Hopefully the Islington elite don't go too hard on us anti-wokesters 😉 I agree with a lot of that 100%. But I can assure you these are not normal times and the state of the country in a few years will make the 80s look like a bit of a laugh. Let's see. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we are both wrong. But it's nice to dream that a party can shake up a failing establishment. For what it's worth I think Farage will get a hell of a lot more support than any far left party that gets created. But I do think we should follow the nordics and get hard right and hard left back in the game. They'll never win elections but they'll hold parliament to account and that's what we need - as Covid has illustrated perfectly. Nordic countries have PR and that's the difference. Unlike you I cannot stand Farage and wouldn't trust him to mind my car on match day but I would lend him my vote - just the once - if his motley collection of 'Reformers' could get PR and the abolition of the unelected upper house bumped up the agenda.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 26, 2020 19:57:57 GMT
So the opposition who have backed the government to the hilt will ? Pfff fair point mate. But I think they will because I genuinely think Farage can do a Nick Clegg and take 40/50 seats at the next election. I can say with confidence Farage's new party will massively fuck things up in a good way (good in my opinion because I think he's great). They are getting millions ploughed into it by the day and have some of the best sales brains in the world behind the running of the campaigns. I know it all sounds farfetched but people told me that in 2010/11/12/13/14 about brexit and in 2012 when Trump was announced as opposition that they would never win. They didn't just beat the government... They beat the entire establishment combined with almost the entirity of the mainstream media against them. BBC won't even recognise Farage's new party. Its gonna be fun watching him eat those fuckers alive. If I was a betting man I'd put my money on a Labour/Reform UK coalition in 2024. I know that sounds utterly ridiculous given the right/left contrast but I think it will happen. We'll be in the biggest crash in history and the North will be utterly on its knees. Watch it happen 😉 Btw, for the record, I think Labour are a pile of shit too. There's more chance if Keir Starmer hooking up with Nigel Farage on Grindr than in a coalition government.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 26, 2020 20:02:59 GMT
As I said... I'm not worried about the SHIT spouted on twitter. Yeah you said that yesterday, that's your (as I acknowledged) prerogative mate. Having said that, the piece that I provided the Twitter link to is now mainstream news today. That's good then. All I am saying is that the filter on mainstream news is a lot more than on Twitter ... Everybody isn't as objective and thorough as you. You seem to have a lot of time to do this. Not being funny by the way. Some people look at twitter and spout the stuff come what may ( and believe it) And this conspiracy bollocks gathers momentum by a bunch of numbnuts twittering round the globe. Just using that for example ... Cheers
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