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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 14:55:11 GMT
But it is, it works. It’s for their health to follow the rules and people weren’t doing that. The public needed a kick up the arse. So you admit they've been lying to us and scare mongering just to keep us in line this whole time. So us "nutjobs" had every right to be sceptical then. Admit? It was clear that was they were doing from the get go and I get why they did it. As I've said I think there needs to be better discourse so no idea why you're using quotations marks or getting shirty tbh.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 14:57:25 GMT
Yes. I don't get why people get hung up on that tbh. Yeah a million dead folk, let it go for fucks sake........ Tyranical dictator deposed and then the real issues started. Making something to get rid of Saddam was fine imo. It was what came after that we and the Yanks got very wrong. And event before from the original Gulf War tbh, we could have got rid of him then. That is where the real ire should be.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2020 15:00:51 GMT
Yeah a million dead folk, let it go for fucks sake........ Tyranical dictator deposed and then the real issues started. Making something to get rid of Saddam was fine imo. It was what came after that we and the Yanks got very wrong. And event before from the original Gulf War tbh, we could have got rid of him then. That is where the real ire should be. It seems to go tits up in Syria and Libya as well. But we should keep out of it, it's for our own good........
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 15:12:46 GMT
Tyranical dictator deposed and then the real issues started. Making something to get rid of Saddam was fine imo. It was what came after that we and the Yanks got very wrong. And event before from the original Gulf War tbh, we could have got rid of him then. That is where the real ire should be. It seems to go tits up in Syria and Libya as well. But we should keep out of it, it's for our own good........ Syria was Obama being soft. Lybia is like Iraq on acid. Far too many factions/tribes/different branches of Islam all competing. It is a shit show.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2020 15:16:42 GMT
It seems to go tits up in Syria and Libya as well. But we should keep out of it, it's for our own good........ Syria was Obama being soft. Lybia is like Iraq on acid. Far too many factions/tribes/different branches of Islam all competing. It is a shit show. Can I respectfully recommend you read a few books on the subject......
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Post by chad on Nov 26, 2020 15:29:40 GMT
Not everything mate Just about 90%. I know there’s loads on here who think the MSM is all in a great conspiracy but I’d take BBC/ ITV/ Mail or Mirror over twitter any day of the week Ok, well it's on the BBC1 o'clock news now if that helps. Fair dos
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 15:38:59 GMT
Syria was Obama being soft. Lybia is like Iraq on acid. Far too many factions/tribes/different branches of Islam all competing. It is a shit show. Can I respectfully recommend you read a few books on the subject...... Which matter? I'm not going to agree that vile dictators don't need deposing sorry and I think that we should have a role in that. The "after care" for Iraq was shambolic.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 15:46:24 GMT
It's a wow because I'm amazed that you want your government to instill fear in the public, by lying to them and justify it, by saying thats it's for their own good. I also realise that we're about to start going round in circles, so if it's okay, I'll let you have the last word on it and I'm going to take the dog for a walk. You only need to take Brexit as an example as to why the British people can't be trusted with certain decisions. I thought it was more like the elected elite can’t be trusted with the decision of the majority of the British electorate that could be arsed to vote
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 15:47:12 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2020 15:47:56 GMT
It's not all bad news for the government....
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2020 15:48:13 GMT
Can I respectfully recommend you read a few books on the subject...... Which matter? I'm not going to agree that vile dictators don't need deposing sorry and I think that we should have a role in that. The "after care" for Iraq was shambolic. So do you think we should launch a military operation against North Korea?
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 26, 2020 15:52:32 GMT
Which matter? I'm not going to agree that vile dictators don't need deposing sorry and I think that we should have a role in that. The "after care" for Iraq was shambolic. So do you think we should launch a military operation against Nirth Korea? No but we should put a goods embargo on there masters China until North Korea behave and China abides by the rule of international law And treats it minorities decently
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2020 15:54:10 GMT
Abbi Brown on radio stoke devastated for the pubs and restaurants that Stoke is in tier 3 and just 4 weeks after she pleaded for Stoke to be put in tier 3 ....fucking henious and beyond the pale
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 15:57:06 GMT
Which matter? I'm not going to agree that vile dictators don't need deposing sorry and I think that we should have a role in that. The "after care" for Iraq was shambolic. So do you think we should launch a military operation against North Korea? In an ideal world yes. In the world where that would mean a war with China, no.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:09:31 GMT
Do the Tier restrictions apply during the 5 days of Christmas?ie hospitality?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:11:02 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Nov 26, 2020 16:11:05 GMT
Will stats have to be tweaked to reflect those who have had covid jab and subsequently died with traces of covid in their body in order to stop people from concluding that the jab isn't working / contributing to deaths ?
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Post by werrington on Nov 26, 2020 16:12:24 GMT
Do the Tier restrictions apply during the 5 days of Christmas?ie hospitality? They are reviewed on December 16th mate
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:13:57 GMT
Do the Tier restrictions apply during the 5 days of Christmas?ie hospitality? They are reviewed on December 16th mate Ok mate thanks
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 26, 2020 16:14:12 GMT
Abbi Brown on radio stoke devastated for the pubs and restaurants that Stoke is in tier 3 and just 4 weeks after she pleaded for Stoke to be put in tier 3 ....fucking henious and beyond the pale Fat corrupt cunt.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2020 16:14:52 GMT
Do the Tier restrictions apply during the 5 days of Christmas?ie hospitality? Looking at the rules below as per the original announcement (if they confirm them of course) can't see it will be worth their while to be honest.....
Between 23 and 27 December, people across the UK will be able to meet with two other households to form one Christmas bubble - but only in a private home, a place of worship or public outdoor spaces
A bubble will not be allowed to meet in pubs, restaurants or bars
People can continue to meet others who are not in their Christmas bubble outside your home, according to the rules in the tier you are staying in - see the tier explainer here Travel restrictions across the whole of the UK will be lifted during the period, allowing people to travel across the nations or between local tiers in order to meet with those within their bubble Anyone travelling to or from Northern Ireland may travel on the 22 and 28 December, but should only meet with their Christmas bubble between 23 and 27 December Once a bubble is formed, it is fixed and must not be changed or extended further at any point Children under 18 whose parents do not live together may be part of both parents' Christmas bubbles, if their parents choose to form separate bubbles Students are considered to be part of the household to which they have returned for Christmas and are not treated as part of their term-time household for this period Between 23 and 27 December, people can continue to use a childcare bubble, but only if "reasonably necessary" Existing support bubbles count as one household towards the three-household limit. This means that if you are in a support bubble, you can collectively form a Christmas bubble with two other households
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 26, 2020 16:15:46 GMT
Abbi Brown on radio stoke devastated for the pubs and restaurants that Stoke is in tier 3 and just 4 weeks after she pleaded for Stoke to be put in tier 3 ....fucking henious and beyond the pale Fat corrupt cunt. Harsh on Werrers that.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:17:00 GMT
Do the Tier restrictions apply during the 5 days of Christmas?ie hospitality? Looking at the rules below can't see it will be worth their while to be honest..... Between 23 and 27 December, people across the UK will be able to meet with two other households to form one Christmas bubble - but only in a private home, a place of worship or public outdoor spaces
A bubble will not be allowed to meet in pubs, restaurants or bars
People can continue to meet others who are not in their Christmas bubble outside your home, according to the rules in the tier you are staying in - see the tier explainer here Travel restrictions across the whole of the UK will be lifted during the period, allowing people to travel across the nations or between local tiers in order to meet with those within their bubble Anyone travelling to or from Northern Ireland may travel on the 22 and 28 December, but should only meet with their Christmas bubble between 23 and 27 December Once a bubble is formed, it is fixed and must not be changed or extended further at any point Children under 18 whose parents do not live together may be part of both parents' Christmas bubbles, if their parents choose to form separate bubbles Students are considered to be part of the household to which they have returned for Christmas and are not treated as part of their term-time household for this period Between 23 and 27 December, people can continue to use a childcare bubble, but only if "reasonably necessary" Existing support bubbles count as one household towards the three-household limit. This means that if you are in a support bubble, you can collectively form a Christmas bubble with two other households So anyone who’s booked Christmas dinner out this year better start ordering their Turkey crown sharpish 😄
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:17:32 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2020 16:18:36 GMT
Looking at the rules below can't see it will be worth their while to be honest..... Between 23 and 27 December, people across the UK will be able to meet with two other households to form one Christmas bubble - but only in a private home, a place of worship or public outdoor spaces
A bubble will not be allowed to meet in pubs, restaurants or bars
People can continue to meet others who are not in their Christmas bubble outside your home, according to the rules in the tier you are staying in - see the tier explainer here Travel restrictions across the whole of the UK will be lifted during the period, allowing people to travel across the nations or between local tiers in order to meet with those within their bubble Anyone travelling to or from Northern Ireland may travel on the 22 and 28 December, but should only meet with their Christmas bubble between 23 and 27 December Once a bubble is formed, it is fixed and must not be changed or extended further at any point Children under 18 whose parents do not live together may be part of both parents' Christmas bubbles, if their parents choose to form separate bubbles Students are considered to be part of the household to which they have returned for Christmas and are not treated as part of their term-time household for this period Between 23 and 27 December, people can continue to use a childcare bubble, but only if "reasonably necessary" Existing support bubbles count as one household towards the three-household limit. This means that if you are in a support bubble, you can collectively form a Christmas bubble with two other households So anyone who’s booked Christmas dinner out this year better start ordering their Turkey crown sharpish 😄 Obviously if you're in Tier 2 you can still go out as a household but if you're a restaurant all this uncertainty would make you want to just close the doors until the New Year before you order in all your stock I would imagine.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 26, 2020 16:19:42 GMT
I'm amazed she sounds so shocked.
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Post by musik on Nov 26, 2020 16:23:05 GMT
Latest Sweden
Quick tests in Care Homes for the Elderly is an option.
In South Korea they're already facing their 3rd wave. In Sweden many people seem to think the 2nd wave is the last one. At the start of all this I personally thought of 4-10 diminishing waves globally before the big turnaround.
The new stricter restrictions will last until February 2021, according to Tengele.
The vaccination programme: everyone here will have the vaccination injections taken before the autumn of 2021!! Faster than what they first said. Phase One: The young people in risk groups, the staff within the health care sector, the old people.
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Post by Gods on Nov 26, 2020 16:28:48 GMT
Latest Sweden Quick tests in Care Homes for the Elderly is an option. In South Korea they're already facing their 3rd wave. In Sweden many people seem to think the 2nd wave is the last one. At the start of all this I personally thought of 4-10 diminishing waves globally before the big turnaround. The new stricter restrictions will last until February 2021, according to Tengele. The vaccination programme: everyone here will have the vaccination injections taken before the autumn of 2021!! Faster than what they first said. Phase One: The young people in risk groups, the staff within the health care sector, the old people. A work colleague in Stockholm has just caught Covid, temperature 38, cough and loss of taste. His daughter caught it first then him and his wife. A family job you could say !
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 26, 2020 16:29:36 GMT
Doubt it. There'll be 30 or so on the Tory backbenches jostling for populist approval and votes in the next leadership election but that's about it. You need to get the Aquaphibian and his Reform Party voted in - all the mainstream parties are roughly in the same ballpark on this. Which is why they've completely lost the public. You are actually right - there's a poll on here that says 58% of people think the government is being too lenient and only 22% think they have got it about right. 10% think they are being too restrictive. I'm afraid your revolution isn't going to happen any time soon.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2020 16:30:05 GMT
I'm amazed she sounds so shocked. I am after she asked for it a few weeks back
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