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Post by starkiller on Oct 28, 2020 12:45:31 GMT
I'm well aware of this crap hitpiece from the TV. If you believe this BBC caricature, with its music, from it's 'disinformation' team, you are the fool. A deliberate attempt to label, categorise, lump together and dismiss those who have serious questions, including many serious and eminent scientists. When are the BBC going to ask the hard questions? Instead of dancing around on the head of a pin? A few months ago , I mentioned engineered economic destruction and planned great reset and got laughed at. Now it's on the front of Time magazine, and the plans were announced in 2016. And they see a supposed deadly pandemic as an opportunity. Whichever way you look at it, that is sick. You previously asked me how a scam can be orchestrated, yet it's clearly been attempted before. Before, you said my views are dangerous. They are not imposed on you in any way. Whereas the BBC fear campaign, and others, and Covid obsession, has literally led people to die alone in their homes, in their thousands. So tell me where the danger is coming from? Certainly not from the likes of me who question this scandal. mol.im/a/8854715And what I summarised before are exactly the rules for entering an eating establishment. This craziness doesn't come from me. People have previously asked you lots of questions, myself included. But you ignore most of them, which suggests you’re well versed in this rhetoric but not able or prepared to counter when posters pick holes in some of your quite frankly bizarre “communist conspiracy” arguments. And I still haven’t figured out I’d you think COVID is made up or not because you seem to change like the wind on that one..... Whether there is a virus around or not, whether it's a usual annual strain with a rebranding or not, there is no pandemic. Only a pandemic under the revised WHO guidelines, deliberately changed in 2009 to propagate the swine flu hoax pandemic. It's no more deadly than any usual similar strain. Only lights, smoke and mirror techniques have given us the supposed covid case and death count and the resulting fear. The 'conspiracy theorists' at the advisory committee on dangerous pathogens concluded that it not a high consequence infectious disease. You talk of 'bizarre' theories, when most of the info is contained in official documents. By the way, I present the document, not the views of others.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 12:52:34 GMT
People have previously asked you lots of questions, myself included. But you ignore most of them, which suggests you’re well versed in this rhetoric but not able or prepared to counter when posters pick holes in some of your quite frankly bizarre “communist conspiracy” arguments. And I still haven’t figured out I’d you think COVID is made up or not because you seem to change like the wind on that one..... Whether there is a virus around or not, whether it's a usual annual strain with a rebranding or not, there is no pandemic. Only a pandemic under the revised WHO guidelines, deliberately changed in 2009 to propagate the swine flu hoax pandemic. It's no more deadly than any usual similar strain. Only lights, smoke and mirror techniques have given us the supposed covid case and death count and the resulting fear. The 'conspiracy theorists' at the advisory committee on dangerous pathogens concluded that it not a high consequence infectious disease. You talk of 'bizarre' theories, when most of the info is contained in official documents. By the way, I present the document, not the views of others. I’ve asked you twice to explain - in layman’s terms - what “we have a global communist, technocratic, digital prison agenda unfolding” means and you still haven’t. I’d like a clear explanation to understand whether it’s just me being thick or just you copying and pasting from Wikipedia?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 28, 2020 12:57:55 GMT
Several papers reporting Downing Street is working on the assumption the second wave will have a lower but longer peak than wave 1 with a high death toll throughout the winter. It seems highly plausible doesn't it? I suggested a couple of weeks ago Gods, that this might be what is spooking Vallance and Whitty ... Just been messing around with some figures ... The current 7 day rolling average for deaths is 62, the week before that it was 47, the week before that it was 28 and the week before that it was 19, so the number is increasing at an average of 32% per week. Having said that, it has gone down this week from 40% to 25% but let's take the average percentage increase over the four weeks to do the following calculation. If that rate of 32% was to continue increasing at the same rate over the next 10 weeks, then during Christmas week we would then be hitting the same sort of figures that we saw at the peak in April. But of course during that time, the total number of dead that would have accumulated over that much longer period of time and would be considerable (by my rough estimate it would be around 26,500) and that's without factoring in the continuing mounting pressure that would be building up in the NHS, so I guess there's a pretty strong possibility that that is what is scaring Whitty and Valance now. Rather than there being a short sharp rise and fall like we saw in the spring, might there be the chance of a long and protracted rise in the winter?And god forbid if there was a long and protracted fall taking us all the way into next spring, the eventual figures could be catastrophic. I don't know, is this how epidemics work?Having said all that, the 7 day rolling average percentage for number of deaths in France has been steadily going down over the last few weeks and (as I said) that has happened here also this week, I guess we've got to hope that that continues. I think it has to be the rate of increase that we need to keep our eyes on in the coming weeks. Since I wrote this post there has been a 38% increase the week before last and a 31% increase in the 7 days up until yesterday and over the last 6 weeks it's averaged out at 34%, so pretty much in line with what I suggested a fortnight ago. So in answer to your question, yes it does seem plausible. However I did ask, in my original post, is this how epidemics work? There is a school of thought amongst some scientists that it actually isn't and what we are seeing now, is a mopping up of the vulnerable people in the North that the virus didn't get first time around and the reason London and the South East isn't getting hit this time, is because due to them being hit earlier during the first wave, the virus has pretty much spread throughout the community and there is now a level of immunity down there. Indeed, perversely, if we had gone into lockdown in the North later the first time around, then the virus would have spread to the same degree that it did in London the first time and we'd be seeing a different outcome in the North now. Now I'm not promoting this theory but from where I'm sitting it's a theory that also seems plausible to me. As I've said many times, I don't feel a need to have to nail any colours to any mast because there just isn't the relevant data in the public domain in order for us to develop an informed opinion. What does seem to be happening though, is that the number of cases is either levelling off or even actually decreasing across the North, what if there is a chance that we've actually reached the peak in the last two weeks and that in three or four weeks time, the 7 day rolling average for deaths will no longer be increasing at 34% and will in fact start to mirror the fall in cases? As I asked in my original post ... I don't know, is this how epidemics work?
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 28, 2020 13:06:44 GMT
Whether there is a virus around or not, whether it's a usual annual strain with a rebranding or not, there is no pandemic. Only a pandemic under the revised WHO guidelines, deliberately changed in 2009 to propagate the swine flu hoax pandemic. It's no more deadly than any usual similar strain. Only lights, smoke and mirror techniques have given us the supposed covid case and death count and the resulting fear. The 'conspiracy theorists' at the advisory committee on dangerous pathogens concluded that it not a high consequence infectious disease. You talk of 'bizarre' theories, when most of the info is contained in official documents. By the way, I present the document, not the views of others. I’ve asked you twice to explain - in layman’s terms - what “we have a global communist, technocratic, digital prison agenda unfolding” means and you still haven’t. I’d like a clear explanation to understand whether it’s just me being thick or just you copying and pasting from Wikipedia? To be fair theres 1,345 pges of 'copying and pasting' on this thread.......1,344 of them kindly supplied by Huddysleftfoot
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Post by starkiller on Oct 28, 2020 13:12:37 GMT
Whether there is a virus around or not, whether it's a usual annual strain with a rebranding or not, there is no pandemic. Only a pandemic under the revised WHO guidelines, deliberately changed in 2009 to propagate the swine flu hoax pandemic. It's no more deadly than any usual similar strain. Only lights, smoke and mirror techniques have given us the supposed covid case and death count and the resulting fear. The 'conspiracy theorists' at the advisory committee on dangerous pathogens concluded that it not a high consequence infectious disease. You talk of 'bizarre' theories, when most of the info is contained in official documents. By the way, I present the document, not the views of others. I’ve asked you twice to explain - in layman’s terms - what “we have a global communist, technocratic, digital prison agenda unfolding” means and you still haven’t. I’d like a clear explanation to understand whether it’s just me being thick or just you copying and pasting from Wikipedia? A digital health ID is a digital prison, required for access to basic services and travel. Face recognition technology to track and trace you, restrictions on movement, even access to cashless currency limited from a universal basic income. These are all proposals from world bodies, and we are in the infancy of these things via this pandemic hoax. This is huge state control with further ramifications and potential future uses. Paranoia, or possibility? However, looking at the amount of freedoms that have been ceded over such a short period, who knows where we'll end up without kickback? The question should be asked is why a fake pandemic could be done as little as ten years ago, yet people refuse to accept we may be experiencing the same thing now? Is it hard to admit you're being fooled in some way? Because there's certainly plenty of evidence that has come out in mainstream sources that the data we've been given has been manipulated in numerous ways. As Mark twain said, "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
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Post by Gods on Oct 28, 2020 13:31:24 GMT
Several papers reporting Downing Street is working on the assumption the second wave will have a lower but longer peak than wave 1 with a high death toll throughout the winter. It seems highly plausible doesn't it? I suggested a couple of weeks ago Gods, that this might be what is spooking Vallance and Whitty ... Just been messing around with some figures ... The current 7 day rolling average for deaths is 62, the week before that it was 47, the week before that it was 28 and the week before that it was 19, so the number is increasing at an average of 32% per week. Having said that, it has gone down this week from 40% to 25% but let's take the average percentage increase over the four weeks to do the following calculation. If that rate of 32% was to continue increasing at the same rate over the next 10 weeks, then during Christmas week we would then be hitting the same sort of figures that we saw at the peak in April. But of course during that time, the total number of dead that would have accumulated over that much longer period of time and would be considerable (by my rough estimate it would be around 26,500) and that's without factoring in the continuing mounting pressure that would be building up in the NHS, so I guess there's a pretty strong possibility that that is what is scaring Whitty and Valance now. Rather than there being a short sharp rise and fall like we saw in the spring, might there be the chance of a long and protracted rise in the winter?And god forbid if there was a long and protracted fall taking us all the way into next spring, the eventual figures could be catastrophic. I don't know, is this how epidemics work?Having said all that, the 7 day rolling average percentage for number of deaths in France has been steadily going down over the last few weeks and (as I said) that has happened here also this week, I guess we've got to hope that that continues. I think it has to be the rate of increase that we need to keep our eyes on in the coming weeks. Since I wrote this post there has been a 38% increase the week before last and a 31% increase in the 7 days up until yesterday and over the last 6 weeks it's averaged out at 34%, so pretty much in line with what I suggested a fortnight ago. So in answer to your question, yes it does seem plausible. However I did ask, in my original post, is this how epidemics work? There is a school of thought amongst some scientists that it actually isn't and what we are seeing now, is a mopping up of the vulnerable people in the North that the virus didn't get first time around and the reason London and the South East isn't getting hit this time, is because due to them being hit earlier during the first wave, the virus has pretty much spread throughout the community and there is now a level of immunity down there. Indeed, perversely, if we had gone into lockdown in the North later the first time around, then the virus would have spread to the same degree that it did in London the first time and we'd be seeing a different outcome in the North now. Now I'm not promoting this theory but from where I'm sitting it's a theory that also seems plausible to me. As I've said many times, I don't feel a need to have to nail any colours to any mast because there just isn't the relevant data in the public domain in order for us to develop an informed opinion. What does seem to be happening though, is that the number of cases is either levelling off or even actually decreasing across the North, what if there is a chance that we've actually reached the peak in the last two weeks and that in three or four weeks time, the 7 day rolling average for deaths will no longer be increasing at 34% and will in fact start to mirror the fall in cases? As I asked in my original post ... I don't know, is this how epidemics work? Looks like your musings of 2 weeks ago are right in line with current Government thinking. As for the concept that perhaps that awful word 'harvesting' has already happened in the South and the North is catching up Im not sure. To a layman given there is such a low overall number of people thought to have had Covid (5% ?) It seems unlikely, there must be many vulnerable people who it has not touched all over the country.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 28, 2020 13:51:31 GMT
I suggested a couple of weeks ago Gods, that this might be what is spooking Vallance and Whitty ... Since I wrote this post there has been a 38% increase the week before last and a 31% increase in the 7 days up until yesterday and over the last 6 weeks it's averaged out at 34%, so pretty much in line with what I suggested a fortnight ago. So in answer to your question, yes it does seem plausible. However I did ask, in my original post, is this how epidemics work? There is a school of thought amongst some scientists that it actually isn't and what we are seeing now, is a mopping up of the vulnerable people in the North that the virus didn't get first time around and the reason London and the South East isn't getting hit this time, is because due to them being hit earlier during the first wave, the virus has pretty much spread throughout the community and there is now a level of immunity down there. Indeed, perversely, if we had gone into lockdown in the North later the first time around, then the virus would have spread to the same degree that it did in London the first time and we'd be seeing a different outcome in the North now. Now I'm not promoting this theory but from where I'm sitting it's a theory that also seems plausible to me. As I've said many times, I don't feel a need to have to nail any colours to any mast because there just isn't the relevant data in the public domain in order for us to develop an informed opinion. What does seem to be happening though, is that the number of cases is either levelling off or even actually decreasing across the North, what if there is a chance that we've actually reached the peak in the last two weeks and that in three or four weeks time, the 7 day rolling average for deaths will no longer be increasing at 34% and will in fact start to mirror the fall in cases? As I asked in my original post ... I don't know, is this how epidemics work? Looks like your musings of 2 weeks ago are right in line with current Government thinking. As for the concept that perhaps that awful word 'harvesting' has already happened in the South and the North is catching up Im not sure. To a layman given there is such a low overall number of people thought to have had Covid (5% ?) It seems unlikely, there must be many vulnerable people who it has not touched all over the country. Those same scientists would suggest that the single digit estimate for immunity is just plain wrong. That somewhere in the region of 30% of the population already had T-Cell immunity before Covid even arrived and that the percentage of people who have developed immunity since the arrival of the virus is of a similar percentage, meaning that there is currently roughly 60% immunity in the community. And of course there are many vulnerable people all over the country who it hasn't touched but the difference being now (and it took me a long time before the penny finally dropped for me on this one) that if there actually is 60% immunity in the community, then it will be far harder for the virus to spread and therefore infect those vulnerable people. Again I'm not advocating that this is correct, I'm simply explaining another school of thought for what is going on.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 28, 2020 13:53:04 GMT
The cure seems worse than the cause! Boarded up businesses, mental health issues through the roof, mass unemployment and domestic incidents off the scale- I'd rather have caught the bloody thing. Indeed mate. Incredibly worrying times.. And the virus itself is the least of the worries. When you consider the state of the High Street and the homelessness/alcohol/drug issues BEFORE this, it's extremely worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 13:55:28 GMT
I see Scientific advisers, albeit unnamed, are suggesting tougher measures are being introduced at Christmas with the West Midlands Police chief threatening that they will force their way into homes to break up Christmas Dinners if there is a breaking of the rules.
What a lovely country we live in.
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Post by drfootball on Oct 28, 2020 14:11:41 GMT
Indeed mate. Incredibly worrying times.. And the virus itself is the least of the worries. When you consider the state of the High Street and the homelessness/alcohol/drug issues BEFORE this, it's extremely worrying. When the cure is worse than the disease, change the cure.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 28, 2020 14:13:15 GMT
I see Scientific advisers, albeit unnamed, are suggesting tougher measures are being introduced at Christmas with the West Midlands Police chief threatening that they will force their way into homes to break up Christmas Dinners if there is a breaking of the rules. What a lovely country we live in. I see the MSM is working well. The police chief said "If we think there's large groups of people gathering where they shouldn't be then police will have to intervene.If again there's flagrant breaking of the rules, then the police would have to enforce. He then mentions it's their job to enforce Government rules. But that's just boring so forcing their way in on xmas day won the headline.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2020 14:18:46 GMT
Going back to case numbers maybe having peaked?
Still a bit variation in the home nations.
Wales - Today - 1414 Last week - 962 NI - Today - 840 Last week - 1039 Scotland - Today - 1202 Lasw week - 1739
Deaths increased a lot in Wales - 37 from 14 Not that much in NI - 9 from 5 And the same in Scotland - 28
All very rudimentary I know but That's 2 days of cases falling in NI and Scotland
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Post by drfootball on Oct 28, 2020 14:26:55 GMT
EU head Ursula von der Leyen is saying that "No one is safe until everyone is safe " Sounds like the starting gun on endless draconian measures across Europe. If CoVid zero is the aim we`ll never be out of this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 14:26:59 GMT
I see Scientific advisers, albeit unnamed, are suggesting tougher measures are being introduced at Christmas with the West Midlands Police chief threatening that they will force their way into homes to break up Christmas Dinners if there is a breaking of the rules. What a lovely country we live in. I see the MSM is working well. The police chief said "If we think there's large groups of people gathering where they shouldn't be then police will have to intervene.If again there's flagrant breaking of the rules, then the police would have to enforce. He then mentions it's their job to enforce Government rules. But that's just boring so forcing their way in on xmas day won the headline. Indeed. Would you bet against it?
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 28, 2020 14:32:54 GMT
I see the MSM is working well. The police chief said "If we think there's large groups of people gathering where they shouldn't be then police will have to intervene.If again there's flagrant breaking of the rules, then the police would have to enforce. He then mentions it's their job to enforce Government rules. But that's just boring so forcing their way in on xmas day won the headline. Indeed. Would you bet against it? I don't for 1 second believe the rule of six will be in place on xmas day tbh. Too many people would rightly ignore it, the police couldn't/wouldn't enforce it. It's just helping sell articles at the minute.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 14:37:40 GMT
Indeed. Would you bet against it? I don't for 1 second believe the rule of six will be in place on xmas day tbh. Too many people would rightly ignore it, the police couldn't/wouldn't enforce it. It's just helping sell articles at the minute. I don't think the rule of six will be in place either. I can see it going further than that and banning all mixing with any household - countrywide.
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 28, 2020 14:43:42 GMT
I don't for 1 second believe the rule of six will be in place on xmas day tbh. Too many people would rightly ignore it, the police couldn't/wouldn't enforce it. It's just helping sell articles at the minute. I don't think the rule of six will be in place either. I can see it going further than that and banning all mixing with any household - countrywide. No chance. Bookmark it, there's no way this Government will risk losing control for the sake of 48hrs. They'll want to be known as the saviours of xmas not be The Grinch, however apt that me be
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2020 14:44:44 GMT
I’m currently in a taxi.
Three of us like sardines in the back. Our 4th mate wasn’t allowed in the front
Who the fuck makes up these rules
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 28, 2020 14:51:35 GMT
... That somewhere in the region of 30% of the population already had T-Cell immunity before Covid even arrived and that the percentage of people who have developed immunity since the arrival of the virus is of a similar percentage, meaning that there is currently roughly 60% immunity in the community. ... Where are you getting that from? In that case Covid would be pretty much over since we'd be touching herd immunity, which would be great. Doesn't seem to match the numbers we're seeing, and it would have been useful if places like NYC had properly done random antibody testing instead of waiting for people to turn up.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 28, 2020 14:52:29 GMT
I’m currently in a taxi. Three of us like sardines in the back. Our 4th mate wasn’t allowed in the front Who the fuck makes up these rules Wednesday afternoon beers with the boys? Like it 😅
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 28, 2020 14:56:04 GMT
Going back to case numbers maybe having peaked? Still a bit variation in the home nations. Wales - Today - 1414 Last week - 962 NI - Today - 840 Last week - 1039 Scotland - Today - 1202 Lasw week - 1739 Deaths increased a lot in Wales - 37 from 14 Not that much in NI - 9 from 5 And the same in Scotland - 28 All very rudimentary I know but That's 2 days of cases falling in NI and Scotland Worldometer growth was 20%/week over the last week, so R>1 about 1-2 weeks ago. This could be a slowdown but the fraction of tests coming back positive is now really high too so I wouldn't put money on it just yet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2020 15:00:26 GMT
Going back to case numbers maybe having peaked? Still a bit variation in the home nations. Wales - Today - 1414 Last week - 962 NI - Today - 840 Last week - 1039 Scotland - Today - 1202 Lasw week - 1739 Deaths increased a lot in Wales - 37 from 14 Not that much in NI - 9 from 5 And the same in Scotland - 28 All very rudimentary I know but That's 2 days of cases falling in NI and Scotland Worldometer growth was 20%/week over the last week, so R>1 about 1-2 weeks ago. This could be a slowdown but the fraction of tests coming back positive is now really high too so I wouldn't put money on it just yet. 6.8% positivity in Scotland. Isn't it accepted that 0-5% is an ok range. Like I said, 2 days running now and the UK value this week should be lower than that of next week. Hopefully
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 28, 2020 15:06:28 GMT
It's not an alternative universe, it's the one we're living in. Merry Covidmas. If it's any consolation there are others living in and promoting your "real" world - see here. The problem is it isn't real - it's actually detached from reality. It's really sad to see people get sucked into this as the video points out and I sincerely hope you see sense and get out before you are too far gone - because there comes a point where there's no way back. Chances are his circle of friends are all involved in it too which would make it harder to break away. I was trying to think how easy it would be to radicalise someone. You would start with something people have in common to start like Brexit for instance and then after a few years of it not going anywhere that anger could easily be used. 1st you would build up a base of people all interested and angry about that particular topic. They all agree with eachother keep retweeting messages as they all have a link to eachother and before they know it they are part of group all on the same page and have now built up some form of trust. Once your in that position you can slowly change topic slightly and lead people on the same path. I look at people like Carl Heneghan for instance and look at people who are supportive of his views and most of them will be retweeting views from all the same people. I'm not saying he is radicalising people at all but you can imagine how easy it could be to channel that anger and manipulate a pool of people all with the same line of thinking once that trust has been built.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2020 15:18:02 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 28, 2020 15:19:40 GMT
Worldometer growth was 20%/week over the last week, so R>1 about 1-2 weeks ago. This could be a slowdown but the fraction of tests coming back positive is now really high too so I wouldn't put money on it just yet. 6.8% positivity in Scotland. Isn't it accepted that 0-5% is an ok range. Like I said, 2 days running now and the UK value this week should be lower than that of next week. Hopefully Since the end of August, the percentage increase in the 7 day rolling average for England has been averaging at around 30%, there is a very good chance that when the figure is released shortly, it will mean that the percentage increase for the current 7 day rolling average will be in single figures. This will be the first time this has happened since August. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 28, 2020 15:23:49 GMT
... That somewhere in the region of 30% of the population already had T-Cell immunity before Covid even arrived and that the percentage of people who have developed immunity since the arrival of the virus is of a similar percentage, meaning that there is currently roughly 60% immunity in the community. ... Where are you getting that from? In that case Covid would be pretty much over since we'd be touching herd immunity, which would be great. Doesn't seem to match the numbers we're seeing, and it would have been useful if places like NYC had properly done random antibody testing instead of waiting for people to turn up. There are numerous sources out there but I guess this chap is probably the most qualified, his CV is something else ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 28, 2020 15:26:21 GMT
I’m currently in a taxi. Three of us like sardines in the back. Our 4th mate wasn’t allowed in the front Who the fuck makes up these rules Ah but the real thing we want to know ... are you still defiantly leading the revolt and are you still refusing to wear a mask? 😁🤦
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 28, 2020 15:27:00 GMT
After my post above I'm now interested if all the people who agree with him are all retweeting the same people. I suppose radicalisation can take many forms. I mean tweets like this would be perfect for building trust with like minded people because the emotion it carries. No offence by the way, you post a lot of interesting stuff.
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Post by Davef on Oct 28, 2020 16:08:28 GMT
If it's any consolation there are others living in and promoting your "real" world - see here. The problem is it isn't real - it's actually detached from reality. It's really sad to see people get sucked into this as the video points out and I sincerely hope you see sense and get out before you are too far gone - because there comes a point where there's no way back. Chances are his circle of friends are all involved in it too which would make it harder to break away. I was trying to think how easy it would be to radicalise someone. You would start with something people have in common to start like Brexit for instance and then after a few years of it not going anywhere that anger could easily be used. 1st you would build up a base of people all interested and angry about that particular topic. They all agree with eachother keep retweeting messages as they all have a link to eachother and before they know it they are part of group all on the same page and have now built up some form of trust. Once your in that position you can slowly change topic slightly and lead people on the same path. I look at people like Carl Heneghan for instance and look at people who are supportive of his views and most of them will be retweeting views from all the same people. I'm not saying he is radicalising people at all but you can imagine how easy it could be to channel that anger and manipulate a pool of people all with the same line of thinking once that trust has been built. Carl Heneghan is a professor of evidence based medicine at Oxford University. Is he correct about everything? Probably not, but do you think he won this role in a competition? We need more people like him to add balance to the narrative. We're seeing accomplished scientists having their views censored on social media and elsewhere because they have an opinion than differs from the WHO's (whose head isn't exactly Mahatma Ghandi or Martin Kuther King). If you think that's a healthy state of affairs then good luck to you.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2020 16:16:13 GMT
Cases down from this day last week.
Hopefully the start of that being a trend.
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