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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Mar 8, 2020 11:26:20 GMT
He's brilliant. Languid in style but a class above and he knows it. One of those players who can just flick a switch and do something brilliant. If he's not scoring or assisting, he's frequently providing the killer ball that leads to the assist. Quality player.
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Post by skelman on Mar 8, 2020 11:43:09 GMT
Best decision Nathan Jones made. This lad will leave here a legend. Tough competition for that. I think he's a cracking player too but it's very early to be talking about him in possible legend status terms atm. However you could be right Thought Powell was real quality again yesterday
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 12:39:08 GMT
Gotta say I don't see how anyone who loved Fuller can't love Powell really.
He's like the creative version of Fuller in that he has a bit of attitude, a lot of quality and he can do something from nothing.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Mar 8, 2020 12:44:07 GMT
Gotta say I don't see how anyone who loved Fuller can't love Powell really. He's like the creative version of Fuller in that he has a bit of attitude, a lot of quality and he can do something from nothing. Totally agree, there’s lots of similarities between the 2, he’s the only player we have that makes you lean forward when he has the ball - another couple of seasons and he’ll be just as much a legend I think...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 12:45:18 GMT
Gotta say I don't see how anyone who loved Fuller can't love Powell really. He's like the creative version of Fuller in that he has a bit of attitude, a lot of quality and he can do something from nothing. Totally agree, there’s lots of similarities between the 2, he’s the only player we have that makes you lean forward when he has the ball - another couple of seasons and he’ll be just as much a legend I think... Even Arnie wasn't more of a legend in my eyes than Fuller, and I fucking love Arnie. Fuller will take some beating, the bloke was just a unique footballer.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 8, 2020 12:47:05 GMT
He definitely looks like he's enjoying his football. Even being played out of position. You'd never think he hated Stoke would you.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Mar 8, 2020 12:54:48 GMT
Totally agree, there’s lots of similarities between the 2, he’s the only player we have that makes you lean forward when he has the ball - another couple of seasons and he’ll be just as much a legend I think... Even Arnie wasn't more of a legend in my eyes than Fuller, and I fucking love Arnie. Fuller will take some beating, the bloke was just a unique footballer. Not saying he’ll surpass the great man, but he’s the first person we’ve had since reminiscent of him in playing style, with a bit of Ric’s nastiness thrown in to boot. I’m very excited to see what the next few years has in store with Powell and a few of the youngsters breaking through. I’m more optimistic now than I have been for a few years.
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Post by j3st3r on Mar 8, 2020 13:56:53 GMT
Much like Fuller, much like Arnie.. can go missing for large parts of the game.. but then does something sublime to create a chance or carve open a defense. When he has the ball at his feet, the sense of anticipation that something is about to happen can be felt.. and weve not had that for some time..
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 8, 2020 13:59:02 GMT
Would love to watch a montage of Youtube clips of the guy. I love his little flicks and drag backs. He always try to do something that the opposition are not expecting
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 8, 2020 14:02:00 GMT
He definitely looks like he's enjoying his football. Even being played out of position. You'd never think he hated Stoke would you. Don't forget that he also detests playing football for a living too. 😂
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Post by rawli on Mar 8, 2020 14:15:10 GMT
He definitely looks like he's enjoying his football. Even being played out of position. You'd never think he hated Stoke would you. Don't forget that he also detests playing football for a living too. 😂 And he's on 40k a week.
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Post by dkws on Mar 8, 2020 14:48:12 GMT
Great to read so much positive stuff about Nick. He’s missed so much football through injuries, it’s impossible to say what he can achieve. One of the statements, from people within the game, reproduced earlier on this thread, had him compared to Dele Alli. I’d bracket him with Maddison and Grealish too; but is it too late for him to be considered alongside those other potential England “no 10s”? He’d need another (successful) season with Stoke, by the end of which he’d be 27. Either that or someone in the Premier League would need to gamble on purchasing him this summer. In the past Nick has talked of ‘being the player he was meant to be’, only to be thwarted by the (mainly) hamstring injuries. I wonder if he has since settled for simply enjoying his football, and with Stoke, in the Championship, he’s at least proving that he’s capable of being a strong influence on games; that may be satisfaction enough I guess.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 8, 2020 15:01:00 GMT
www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/9758/robertson-column-powells-rare-talent-is-finally-being-fulfilled/ON THE day I signed for Crewe Alexandra in the summer of 2012, their Reaseheath training ground was bristling with pride.
I remember Neil Baker, Crewe’s long-standing coach, saying “He’ll play for England,” as though it were a statement of fact. Mind you, Sir Alex Ferguson agreed.
His talent was never in doubt. His application was where the question mark lay. My new team-mates told me Powell had done things in training that would make you rub your eyes in awe, though not always with the ball.www.ibtimes.co.uk/manchester-united-nick-powell-can-still-match-dele-alli-rise-tottenham-says-crewe-boss-steve-1541791?"I would put him in the same bracket as Dele Alli. I know he hasn't shown that yet because of the problems he has had with injuries, but if he gets the chance to showcase his talent then there is no reason why he cannot be as good as that,"
I just hope Nick proves us right because we always felt he would go on to play for England and make an impact at the top level.""I honestly believe if Sir Alex would have stayed at United, Nick would have developed into a real top-class player - and I really thought he'd play for England, I really did. He's that good. He can link the play, he can play people in, he can shoot and he's very decent in the air. So they have got a player that can play in any position, but I think his best position is playing off the main forward" - Neil Baker www.theguardian.com/football/football-league-blog/2018/aug/15/nick-powell-wigan-memories-crewe-sir-alex-ferguson-manchester-united“I just think he’s a game-changer – he will win games for you at any level,” the former Wigan manager says. “He’s somebody you have to constantly challenge, the game comes too easy to him sometimes. If you’re just doing a simple drill, he can almost get bored because he is so talented. “I remember one day we had trained at the stadium – and the training was poor, to be honest, and I had had a go at the players – he suddenly scored from what must have been about 40 yards past Jussi Jaaskelainen and everyone just thought: ‘Wow, did he just do that?’ “He would score goals in training that would be just an absolute joke, 30- or 40-yarders into the top corner. Physically, he is a lot stronger than people think, he is a lot quicker than people think; he has a great change of speed. He can dominate games when he wants to, and at the flick of a switch.” "He was about 16 when I first joined Crewe; he trained with the first team at a very young age and straight away had that arrogance which you need to be a top player. Sometimes that went a little bit too far but his ability and the speed of his thinking was way ahead of anything I’ve ever seen. He was on another level. In my head, I always, always thought he would play for England. The experience he has gained from that switch to United – good and bad – playing with the quality of those players, all of that is invaluable for him to get back to that level, which he is absolutely capable of doing.” Powell, described by Caldwell as an introvert, is at home at Wigan "He still has the potential to play for a United or another top club. I said to him when I signed him: ‘You have the potential to play for England but you have to go and show that.’” This reminds me a lot of Peter Dobing who was arguably the best player Waddington had: yes, better than Hudson. The problem was his attitude. Half the time he couldn’t be bothered and you never knew which Peter Dobing was going to show up. He improved when Waddington gave him the responsibility of being captain, but he still had his marde-arse days. Otherwise would he have had 50+ caps for England but I am not sure he was that bothered. He actually preferred fishing. This is why he’s rarely mentioned alongside the other legends of the era like Conroy, Smith, Ritchie, Hudson and Greenhoff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 15:06:21 GMT
If Powell could be arsed, he wouldn't be here! Worth remembering.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 8, 2020 15:18:20 GMT
Anyone know how long his contract is? Can’t find it anywhere
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Post by Godo on Mar 8, 2020 19:08:05 GMT
The partnership that is developing between Powell and Campbell is really excellent. I think Powell is the most creative player we have had since Arnie/Shaq and pre injury Bojan.....but obviously there's always some pillock who has to criticise his own players. Rowett wasn't a patch on MON but my goodness he was right about the negative atmosphere that some of our "fans" create. There were people around me on Saturday who were disappointed that Ince had such a good game. WTF???!!!
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Post by wearepremierleague on Mar 8, 2020 22:29:05 GMT
If Powell could be arsed, he wouldn't be here! Worth remembering. Definitely doesn’t play like he isn’t arsed. Grafts his bollocks off , something I never knew he did before signing for us
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 22:47:40 GMT
If Powell could be arsed, he wouldn't be here! Worth remembering. Definitely doesn’t play like he isn’t arsed. Grafts his bollocks off , something I never knew he did before signing for us I more mean in training and sort of in general I guess, if he'd worked really hard in his youth. I agree he isn't lazy for us.
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 9, 2020 0:12:03 GMT
Im delighted he’s a Stoke player
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 9, 2020 13:05:18 GMT
Powell's got a great footballing brain and technique, but for me he doesn't impact games anywhere near as often as he should.
3 of his 4 goals, plus 1 of his 4 assists have come in the two games where we romped home and the opposition made pub teams look like Barca.
That's one goal and 3 assists in his other 20 appearances. Lack of application is why he's spent most of his career in the lower leagues and not the Prem.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 9, 2020 13:11:16 GMT
Powell's got a great footballing brain and technique, but for me he doesn't impact games anywhere near as often as he should. 3 of his 4 goals, plus 1 of his 4 assists have come in the two games where we romped home and the opposition made pub teams look like Barca. That's one goal and 3 assists in his other 20 appearances. Lack of application is why he's spent most of his career in the lower leagues and not the Prem. Fucking hell, you have to go some to be this churlish. His performance was a significant factor in why we 'romped home'. Stoke City have not, in recent times, been given to 'romping home' and we really shouldn't take that for granted. He has made 12 league starts since New Year and in that time he was four goals, four assists. He also played a key role in both goals against Cardiff (who started the day on the cusp of the play offs when we played them) and against West Brom (top of the league when we played them). That, to me, seems like a pretty significant 'impact' during the club's best run of results for a fair old while.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 9, 2020 13:51:52 GMT
Powell's got a great footballing brain and technique, but for me he doesn't impact games anywhere near as often as he should. 3 of his 4 goals, plus 1 of his 4 assists have come in the two games where we romped home and the opposition made pub teams look like Barca. That's one goal and 3 assists in his other 20 appearances. Lack of application is why he's spent most of his career in the lower leagues and not the Prem. Minutes is a much better metric than appearances, a guy can play for 30 seconds and still register an appearance. Powell is averaging a goal or an assist less than every 2 games (every 162 mins) if you take his whole season into account. If you take just the minutes he's played since he had his first consecutive starts and established himself it's every 125 mins. In his 10 apperances earlier in the season he played a grand total of 306 minutes, and 4 of those he played less than 10 minutes. That's before we even mention things like pre-assists like his pass v West Brom and his pass to Allen before Clucas scored v Swansea. I posted the minutes per goal/assist for the squad a few pages back, he's near the top across the season and top since New Year. I don't get what else he can do.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 9, 2020 13:56:26 GMT
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Post by george2again on Mar 9, 2020 15:09:53 GMT
i would play him there as Allen’s replacement. Can put foot on it and dictate a game. easy decision if McCleans fit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 15:11:27 GMT
No thanks. We need his creativity further forward.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 9, 2020 15:12:56 GMT
I think it would take so much away from his game though, the dropping into space, drift into the channels, the link up with Campbell etc. He'd also have to do a lot more defensive work which I don't think is his game at all. I don't see the point in nullifying our best attacking threat when we have specialist centre-mids capable of stepping into the gap.
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Post by Linx on Mar 9, 2020 15:23:55 GMT
Is Glen Whelan available? Not joking, he could do a job as a DM for nine games.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 9, 2020 15:29:07 GMT
Is Glen Whelan available? Not joking, he could do a job as a DM for nine games. Of course he is available - for Fleetwood!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 9, 2020 16:30:30 GMT
Powell is making a rod for his own back by doing so well out wide.
Clearly MON wants him on the pitch, but I think he would totally be running the show if he plays centrally in the 10 role.
Will be interesting to see what happens when Mclean is back. I can see us reverting to 4-3-3 with Powell playing deeper, but hes so much better in 4-2-3-1 with a license to roam.
He is so good that as a manager you really do have to build your team around Nick Powell. Tashan can be his understudy maybe for that number 10 role?
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Post by dkws on Mar 9, 2020 16:39:18 GMT
Powell's got a great footballing brain and technique, but for me he doesn't impact games anywhere near as often as he should. 3 of his 4 goals, plus 1 of his 4 assists have come in the two games where we romped home and the opposition made pub teams look like Barca. That's one goal and 3 assists in his other 20 appearances. Lack of application is why he's spent most of his career in the lower leagues and not the Prem. You couldn’t be more wrong, concerning application. His hamstring injuries are the main reason, and the changes of managers at United. Most Wigan fans wouldn’t fault his application. It was there that Paul Cook recognised the need to be cautious with him, resting him or substituting him, often around 65/70 min’s. These games he’s been playing for Michael O’Neill are the first batch of games where he seems to be running and tracking back without a fear of a big setback. There’s more to come from him I’m sure.
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