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Post by gingerninja on Mar 1, 2020 12:18:45 GMT
I am not sure I buy into it. He is obviously very talented, yet for me his end product is very wasteful. He makes those outside of the boot passes way too often and the manor rarely end up where he intends. He tries the same "nutmeg" move every time and we end up losing possession in so many promising positions and his shooting at best atrocious. I think generally with him the bad outweighs the good.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 12:19:19 GMT
Creative player in ‘not everything he tries comes off’ shocker.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 12:20:32 GMT
Don’t get me started on ‘the bad outweighs the good’. Go through our goals scored and chances created since he came into the side and have a look at how many he was heavily involved in.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 1, 2020 12:22:11 GMT
I am not knocking his work rate, which is excellent, he is just needlessly wasteful at times.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 12:23:21 GMT
I am not knocking his work rate, which is excellent, he is just needlessly wasteful at times. Again, creative players take risks and try stuff, that’s a byproduct. Take him out of the team and where do the goals/wins come from? Which player?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 1, 2020 12:24:14 GMT
He's by far and away the most talented player at the club. We should be looking at ways to get him involved in games more rather than less.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 12:30:25 GMT
He isn't a left winger.
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Post by rosco on Mar 1, 2020 12:31:46 GMT
Thought he was best player on the pitch first half. Ran rings around Luton.
Never going to impress 2nd half when we sat back.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 1, 2020 12:31:58 GMT
I imagine Campbell will be much more on Powell's wavelength by the start of next season, so assuming we don't get relegated (otherwise, I can't see them both staying), I can see them being two of the most important players in our team. Powell is one of the main reasons I think we have a chance of challenging for promotion next season (again, if we stay up).
Also, not having McClean is hurting Powell's game a little.
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Post by milky on Mar 1, 2020 12:32:34 GMT
Many of his passes dont come off as he takes risks and very few of his team mates are on his wavelength most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 12:33:16 GMT
Although he's played well over 200 pro games, he's still inconsistent. Since he came into the team, he's probably played 2 good games for every 1 bad game, the latter usually coincides with an away game where support for him is further away as a result of our often negative game plans. But even on bad days he still keeps opponents busy, not least because he's happy helping out in deeper positions. Not saying he's a potential defensive lynchpin, but he's a team player. Take him out of the team, as O'Neill did in the 75th minute vs Luton, and Luton suddenly had two more players to add to their attack and our discomfort.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 1, 2020 12:55:01 GMT
Although he's played well over 200 pro games, he's still inconsistent. Since he came into the team, he's probably played 2 good games for every 1 bad game, the latter usually coincides with an away game where support for him is further away as a result of our often negative game plans. But even on bad days he still keeps opponents busy, not least because he's happy helping out in deeper positions. Not saying he's a potential defensive lynchpin, but he's a team player. Take him out of the team, as O'Neill did in the 75th minute vs Luton, and Luton suddenly had two more players to add to their attack and our discomfort. If he plays 2 good games for every bad game - that still makes him more effective, in terms of creativity, than almost any other player we have. And he and Campbell have struck up a great partnership (when Powell plays in the centre) to the extent that they are the best forward combination we have had for a few years. There aren't many better number 10s in the Championship. He'll do for me until we reach a point where we are back in the Prem and able to spend big money on a replacement. One caveat is that I wish he was a more clinical finisher - but the longer he and Campbell get to play together, the more chance there is of him relaxing and getting the goals to go with his undoubted creativity.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 1, 2020 13:07:36 GMT
Creative player in ‘not everything he tries comes off’ shocker. If everything did come off he wouldn't be at Stoke...that's for sure!
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Post by sd22 on Mar 1, 2020 13:11:47 GMT
Played a nice back heel yesterday and if Ince had a creative bone in his body(this on Powell’s wavelength) would’ve been put through on goal.
No doubt for him to spurn again.
I agree that Thompson has played well as DM, so for me I would put Clucas out on the left, and put Powell back in the middle in between the lines, where he can get on the ball and ‘God willing’ wreak havoc.
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Post by potterfox1011 on Mar 1, 2020 13:12:02 GMT
Creative player in ‘not everything he tries comes off’ shocker. If everything did come off he wouldn't be at Stoke...that's for sure!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 1, 2020 13:14:16 GMT
Seriously? He's played 3 games on the left fucking wing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 13:28:21 GMT
Creative player in ‘not everything he tries comes off’ shocker. He’s been far too casual over the last two games though, trying things you’d do with your mates in the park when there was much easier option. He’s way better than that, he’s a match winner when his heads on it....
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 13:34:47 GMT
Creative player in ‘not everything he tries comes off’ shocker. He’s been far too casual over the last two games though, trying things you’d do with your mates in the park when there was much easier option. He’s way better than that, he’s a match winner when his heads on it.... I just think that’s what you get with players of his ilk though. They have the capacity to irk or to try stuff and it’s just a trade off, knowing that it all comes from the same place that makes the good stuff work when it comes off. The OP’s suggestion he doesn’t see the value in him after the overall impact he’s had since coming into the team is baffling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 13:59:56 GMT
I remember when he broke through at Crewe and radio stoke were fawning over him. So I tuned into their league 2 playoff final to see what the fuss was about, and he scored what I still rate as one of the best goals I’ve ever seen. I fully expected him to go on and become the greatest player to emerge from their academy, which would obviously be saying a lot.
He disappoints me. Similar to Tom Ince in a way. Both looked like they were going to be stars. Neither are even close to being stars for Stoke IMO.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 14:03:28 GMT
I remember when he broke through at Crewe and radio stoke were fawning over him. So I tuned into their league 2 playoff final to see what the fuss was about, and he scored what I still rate as one of the best goals I’ve ever seen. I fully expected him to go on and become the greatest player to emerge from their academy, which would obviously be saying a lot. He disappoints me. Similar to Tom Ince in a way. Both looked like they were going to be stars. Neither are even close to being stars for Stoke IMO. Similar to Tom Ince? Really? If Powell hasn’t been a star for Stoke over the past two months then literally nobody has.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 14:03:58 GMT
He blows hot n cold, either very good or very bad. He made his name scoring wonder goals for Crewe,that part of his game seems to have gone
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 14:06:08 GMT
I remember when he broke through at Crewe and radio stoke were fawning over him. So I tuned into their league 2 playoff final to see what the fuss was about, and he scored what I still rate as one of the best goals I’ve ever seen. I fully expected him to go on and become the greatest player to emerge from their academy, which would obviously be saying a lot. He disappoints me. Similar to Tom Ince in a way. Both looked like they were going to be stars. Neither are even close to being stars for Stoke IMO. Similar to Tom Ince? Really? If Powell hasn’t been a star for Stoke over the past two months then literally nobody has. I’m far from an expert on football mate so maybe you are seeing something I don’t, and maybe if Powell has the service and smarter players around him he’d shine more. But for me personally, I just don’t get the love in similar to OP.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 1, 2020 14:11:39 GMT
He blows hot n cold, either very good or very bad. He made his name scoring wonder goals for Crewe,that part of his game seems to have gone That's only gone since he came to Stoke. You can add Afobe, Ince, Vokes (everyone) to that list. It's not a stretch to think he'll get his goalscoring boots back.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 14:20:20 GMT
Similar to Tom Ince? Really? If Powell hasn’t been a star for Stoke over the past two months then literally nobody has. I’m far from an expert on football mate so maybe you are seeing something I don’t, and maybe if Powell has the service and smarter players around him he’d shine more. But for me personally, I just don’t get the love in similar to OP. Again mate, just look at the contribution he’s made. The assists. The pre-assists.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Mar 1, 2020 14:26:52 GMT
So that's the manager, Butland, Smith, Ince and Powell.
Anyone we're going to bury that we need more than ever in the next 2 months?
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Post by spongebobflathead on Mar 1, 2020 14:45:41 GMT
When he’s good he is excellent but When he’s bad he absolutely stinks the joint out
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Post by datguy on Mar 1, 2020 14:47:26 GMT
When he’s good he is excellent but When he’s bad he absolutely stinks the joint out Think he's had one poor game for us?
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Post by datguy on Mar 1, 2020 14:48:25 GMT
Take Nick Powell out of this team, we will go down.
Simple. As. That.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 1, 2020 14:50:59 GMT
He's no striker either, most of his efforts are too weak or off target! I like him, he has some skill but where to play him with any effect?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 14:58:50 GMT
He's no striker either, most of his efforts are too weak or off target! I like him, he has some skill but where to play him with any effect? Number 10.
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