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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 29, 2020 17:51:42 GMT
I must say that I find it a little strange when we adopted the defensive tactics seemingly in the second half he did not bring on Campbell for Vokes for the last 20 minutes. Have to say I thought that would have been the pre- game plan. Is pe t the plan was is to protect Campbell from a cold start injury
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 29, 2020 17:52:25 GMT
Difference being. He gets stuff wrong and we still get a result. Like us he’s a work in progress. Still getting more right than wrong. Onwards and upwards. Ish. Can't see it personally. Despite glimpses, this squad doesn't have the fight We’ve had some excellent results and performances under MON. Let’s not get all knickerwettery eh?
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 17:52:31 GMT
Christ we should have buried them before half time.Soft penalty that we never seem to get rescues them.These outplayed Brentford on Tuesday and never looked like scoring against us.I think his biggest descision is weather to keep persevering with Teflon gloves.It must be a nightmare as a central defender playing in front of him. Ince should of made it 2-0 on 10 mins after that was rancid I said it during the game so it’s no hindsight
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 17:54:43 GMT
Can't see it personally. Despite glimpses, this squad doesn't have the fight We’ve had some excellent results and performances under MON. Let’s not get all knickerwettery eh? Nobody is foxy ....I was there mate and I only comment on what’s in front of me I think he’s a superb manager but it doesn’t mean he’s beyond criticism He shit himself today
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 29, 2020 17:54:53 GMT
Can't see it personally. Despite glimpses, this squad doesn't have the fight We’ve had some excellent results and performances under MON. Let’s not get all knickerwettery eh? We've also had done dreadful dreadful performances. We had an upward spell, now is our downward (resorting to norm) spell. The good games have been exceptions, since Mon arrived and throughout the season. Other clubs are picking the points where as we are throwing them away. We've been here before folks just not at such a shit level. Lambert still our manager? We really fucked up this January
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 29, 2020 17:56:41 GMT
So we play more open football and we let in 8 goals in two away games. He then tightens it up and we let in one goal in three games. Obviously the managers fault. Some people should think before they talk such rubbish Then again perhaps thinking is too much to ask , far easier to react as usual on this board. I am no more happy with letting in the late goal, but the reason he is playing this way is because the squad as a whole is not good enough through no fault of the current manager and he is having to scrape out points as best as he can.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 29, 2020 17:57:38 GMT
I disagree. Easy game to see out. They posed us no problems whatsoever and we still can't win. We are woeful, abject and a sorry excuse of a team. This manager is working miracles. He’s done well but nothing he did made sense. Butland needs fucking off ASAP. Don't Agree with your first sentence as Vokes selection was vindicated.Totally on board with the Teflon gloves comment.Butlands regression to the level he is at now is unfathomable and playing in front of him is a pressure our defender's don't need.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 29, 2020 17:57:45 GMT
On the bright side we might all die of Chinese bat flu and relegation won't be a problem.
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 17:57:53 GMT
So we play more open football and we let in 8 goals in two away games. He then tightens it up and we let in one goal in three games. Obviously the managers fault. Some people should think before they talk such rubbish Then again perhaps thinking is too much to ask , far easier to react as usual on this board. I am no more happy with letting in the late goal, but the reason he is playing this way is because the squad as a whole is not good enough through no fault of the current manager and he is having to scrape out points as best as he can. Horseshite
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 29, 2020 18:00:05 GMT
So we play more open football and we let in 8 goals in two away games. He then tightens it up and we let in one goal in three games. Obviously the managers fault. Some people should think before they talk such rubbish Then again perhaps thinking is too much to ask , far easier to react as usual on this board. I am no more happy with letting in the late goal, but the reason he is playing this way is because the squad as a whole is not good enough through no fault of the current manager and he is having to scrape out points as best as he can. Horseshite Why?
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Post by werrington on Feb 29, 2020 18:02:52 GMT
We’ve sat back and defended a lead for the last 45 mins against a team who offered nothing The maths is easy
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 29, 2020 18:04:02 GMT
The issue with todays result apart from the tactics in the 2nd half, which there was absolutely no need for is what is happening around us
Wigan are pulling away after looking gone. Luton are making a fist of it and we should have put more daylight between us
Huddersfield and Reading have given themselves breathing space
However Hull and Charlton are in freefall
In that context we need to keep having a go and not adopting the Lambert mentality that saw us get relegated
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 29, 2020 18:04:32 GMT
We’ve had some excellent results and performances under MON. Let’s not get all knickerwettery eh? Nobody is foxy ....I was there mate and I only comment on what’s in front of me I think he’s a superb manager but it doesn’t mean he’s beyond criticism He shit himself today I wasn’t referring to you bud. I think you’re right. I didn’t see it but judging by his selection, subs and what people are saying he got a fair bit wrong today. Having said that a few good teams have come a cropper at Luton recently so a point isn’t a complete disaster. Bar QPR he seems to have got us a bit harder to beat and a lot less likely to implode. I think today he has clearly let himself get distracted by next week and the games following instead of playing what’s in front of us.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 29, 2020 18:05:31 GMT
Nobody is foxy ....I was there mate and I only comment on what’s in front of me I think he’s a superb manager but it doesn’t mean he’s beyond criticism He shit himself today I wasn’t referring to you bud. I think you’re right. I didn’t see it but judging by his selection, subs and what people are saying he got a fair bit wrong today. Having said that a few good teams have come a cropper at Luton recently so a point isn’t a complete disaster. Bar QPR he seems to have got us a bit harder to beat and a lot less likely to implode. I think today he has clearly let himself get distracted by next week and the games following instead of playing what’s in front of us. Just for context, we are 1 win in 5. In this league that really isn't good enough. Our recent form is bottom 6 stuff.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 29, 2020 18:05:48 GMT
He isn’t the first stoke manager to pay the price for another horrendously misjudged window , the failure to sign a winger made us dreadfully unbalanced these Last two games . personally I’d have taken 5 points from these three games and am resigned it’s going down to forest away . my real fear is the assumption to take to the last game we need three more wins and it puts horrendous pressure on those next three home games , as reading Wigan and Leeds and Bristol City will all need the points pressure I’m not sure we are up to. I don’t think it puts any more pressure on the next three home games. Whatever the result today we have to win the home games against Hull, Middlesbrough and Barnsley. I’ll be very surprised if we win all three , it’s just not the way football and the championship work , it would mean 4 straight home wins and I can’t remember when we last did that .
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 18:05:49 GMT
The issue with todays result apart from the tactics in the 2nd half, which there was absolutely no need for is what is happening around us Wigan are pulling away after looking gone. Luton are making a fist of it and we should have put more daylight between us Huddersfield and Reading have given themselves breathing space However Hull and Charlton are in freefall In that context we need to keep having a go and not adopting the Lambert mentality that saw us get relegated This! This and thrice this.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 29, 2020 18:06:01 GMT
I’m on about Powell, he gave the ball away every time he had it against Blackburn as well..... Powell is infuriatingly lethargic at times his effort on goal when one on one with their defender sums it up.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 18:09:18 GMT
I can't understand why you would go defensive when you have some of the worst defenders ever to play for this club. We have a pacer striker sitting doing nowt,against the worst defence in this division.
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Post by simple on Feb 29, 2020 18:09:46 GMT
You lot need to get a grip,the manager came in when we had 8 points on the board why because the players he was left with are not good enough.He as made us hard to beat,if we had gone out full pelt and lost then the gap between us and Luton closes.Most on here would agree Brentford are a better side than us how did they get on at Luton,draw away win at home we will be safe,and that will be with the biggest load of tosses this club as had for years.Get behind your team instead of moan moan.
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Post by towraytek on Feb 29, 2020 18:13:52 GMT
We were 5 minutes away from a brilliant result and conceded a penalty. Unlucky. No complaints from me. Deluded. Deluded by what? Where we were when we took over? Where we are now? Pivotal fixture; nicked the early goal; tight ground; backs-to-the-wall local support; nick one; defend it; which you do until added time, then a really experienced defender gives away a dodgy pen. Delusional? Give over. We will absolutely get out of this if we continue as we are and M O'N is the man.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 29, 2020 18:13:52 GMT
I don’t think it puts any more pressure on the next three home games. Whatever the result today we have to win the home games against Hull, Middlesbrough and Barnsley. I’ll be very surprised if we win all three , it’s just not the way football and the championship work , it would mean 4 straight home wins and I can’t remember when we last did that . I agree but we probably have to win the three if we are to stay up. If we don’t we are giving points away to the wrong sides. Unless we can start picking up the odd win away from home and at the moment that seems more unlikely.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 29, 2020 18:15:13 GMT
I wasn’t referring to you bud. I think you’re right. I didn’t see it but judging by his selection, subs and what people are saying he got a fair bit wrong today. Having said that a few good teams have come a cropper at Luton recently so a point isn’t a complete disaster. Bar QPR he seems to have got us a bit harder to beat and a lot less likely to implode. I think today he has clearly let himself get distracted by next week and the games following instead of playing what’s in front of us. Just for context, we are 1 win in 5. In this league that really isn't good enough. Our recent form is bottom 6 stuff. Very worrying contect for those putting faith in us a form team . Think we will do well to take it to the death as the combination of the mountain to climb m the revival of others , another horrendous process window , really unlucky injuries in the same position and the manager learning curve ,might just in combination prove too much
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Post by greenstokie on Feb 29, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
It was hugely disappointing to concede a penalty so late in the game and our failure to convert chances into a second goal, cost us today. However, an away draw today is far preferable to a defeat to one of our relegation rivals.
Luton have been on a good run. Despite today's draw they are still eight in the last six games form guide, whilst we've slipped to 15th. Had we hung on, the positions would be reversed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 18:16:06 GMT
Why can’t people understand you like the manager but think he’s been wank today?
So fucking strange and a bit thick.
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Post by Macko on Feb 29, 2020 18:18:37 GMT
Why can’t people understand you like the manager but think he’s been wank today? So fucking strange and a bit thick. Why are you such a negative contentious arsehole who most of us don't believe is a Stoke fan at all?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 18:19:43 GMT
Why can’t people understand you like the manager but think he’s been wank today? So fucking strange and a bit thick. Why are you such a negative contentious arsehole who most of us don't believe is a Stoke fan at all? Why are you so angry?
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Post by milky on Feb 29, 2020 18:20:16 GMT
On the whole he has done very well.
Today he got it wrong though.Or at least the last 30 mins.
He doesn't often get it wrong 2 games running though which is encouraging.
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 29, 2020 18:22:15 GMT
On the whole he has done very well. Today he got it wrong though.Or at least the last 30 mins. He doesn't often get it wrong 2 games running though which is encouraging. If we held out i was going post how good our game management had been and the best we've had in the last few years, instead chester makes a stupid mistake again and we're back in the shit.
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 29, 2020 18:22:56 GMT
Why are you such a negative contentious arsehole who most of us don't believe is a Stoke fan at all? Why are you so angry? Why? Delilah.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 29, 2020 18:28:10 GMT
He's been doing it since he got here, no one minded when we beat West Brom doing it. I don't like it but I get why he does it. He didn't do it at Huddersfield and they're a better side than Luton, who have shipped 71 goals this season. He shit himself today and we got exactly what we deserved. He needs to take a good look at himself and fast. Anything less than 3 points against a dreadful Hull side and we are bang in trouble. The last two performances from the manager have put huge pressure on the players going into it. Pressure that really didn't need to be there. The worst decision made today was by James Chester who fouled a player in the penalty area who had his back to goal and wasn't going anywhere.These are the fine margins in a game of football.We limited a Luton side that had beaten Brentford on Tuesday to nothing today until Chesters rash challenge.In my opinion the biggest pressure release would be made by dropping our hapless keeper.
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