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Post by felonious on Feb 25, 2020 18:37:21 GMT
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2020 7:46:45 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy?
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Post by yeokel on Feb 26, 2020 8:08:55 GMT
What happened here then?
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 26, 2020 10:02:29 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? Why would that be a problem?
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Post by yeokel on Feb 26, 2020 10:07:57 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? Why would that be a problem? It would be a “problem” because these are young primary school kids who should be enjoying their innocent childhood instead of being forced to be concerned with or involved with deviants such as those mentioned above. If you (any version of you) ever become mature enough to have kids of your own you would understand.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 26, 2020 10:19:09 GMT
Why would that be a problem? It would be a “problem” because these are young primary school kids who should be enjoying their innocent childhood instead of being forced to be concerned with or involved with deviants such as those mentioned above. If you (any of you) ever become mature enough to have kids of your own you would understand. Vile.
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Post by yeokel on Feb 26, 2020 10:28:56 GMT
It would be a “problem” because these are young primary school kids who should be enjoying their innocent childhood instead of being forced to be concerned with or involved with deviants such as those mentioned above. If you (any of you) ever become mature enough to have kids of your own you would understand. Vile. I wouldn’t agree with you that they are “vile”. But primary school kids shouldn’t be bothered with these things. There will be plenty of time in their futures for such encounters.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2020 11:55:40 GMT
I wouldn’t agree with you that they are “vile”. But primary school kids shouldn’t be bothered with these things. There will be plenty of time in their futures for such encounters. If nothing else that scary freak will be enough to frighten the poor kids and hopefully put them off wanting to be drag queens in later life.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 26, 2020 12:16:14 GMT
I wouldn’t agree with you that they are “vile”. But primary school kids shouldn’t be bothered with these things. There will be plenty of time in their futures for such encounters. I think this is a perfectly reasonable point calling them a deviant previously not so much.... I honestly doubt the kids had any interest in s28 and are probably all comfortable with the fact that their classmates can have 2 mums, 2 dads etc etc
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2020 13:50:41 GMT
A case of a disappearing post from our mentally challenged man of God
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 26, 2020 16:29:13 GMT
A case of a disappearing post from our mentally challenged man of God
Didn't I only ask what the issue is?
Sure it was a mistake from one of the admins. Nowt wrong with asking questions
And since you're a grass, Imma report you for calling me mentally challenged
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 26, 2020 22:50:07 GMT
I wouldn’t agree with you that they are “vile”. But primary school kids shouldn’t be bothered with these things. There will be plenty of time in their futures for such encounters. If nothing else that scary freak will be enough to frighten the poor kids and hopefully put them off wanting to be drag queens in later life. One of the best things any child could hope for would be to live their life unencumbered by the kind of bitterness and vitriol that clearly weighs you down so much, carps
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 26, 2020 23:21:33 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? I reckon this is brilliant and the fuss is just ridiculous. Time to demystify all this gender mallarkey and join the 21st century, pretending it shouldn't exist or is pervy or dirty is idiotic (and does kids so much harm whatever their sexuality and wherever they are on the gender continuum)
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 26, 2020 23:36:24 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? I reckon this is brilliant and the fuss is just ridiculous. Time to demystify all this gender mallarkey and join the 21st century, pretending it shouldn't exist or is pervy or dirty is idiotic (and does kids so much harm whatever their sexuality and wherever they are on the gender continuum) Agree absolutely. It’s no big deal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 0:15:36 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? I reckon this is brilliant and the fuss is just ridiculous. Time to demystify all this gender mallarkey and join the 21st century, pretending it shouldn't exist or is pervy or dirty is idiotic (and does kids so much harm whatever their sexuality and wherever they are on the gender continuum) Bottom line is you are male or female no matter what century it is, science hasn't altered, however you dress or whatever label you try and hang on yourself doesn't change that. If you think someone calling themselves Flojob is suitably for very young children ok but don't expect everyone to agree
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 27, 2020 1:11:59 GMT
Erm... is that what you meant to say? Scientific paradigms change constantly, and there are major changes in scientific understanding and method at least every generation. If you think any 'scientific' point is an absolute that's a moral judgement trying to claim unchanging science as evidence, which is simply wrong. A simple example: 20 or 30 years ago it was generally thought that being transgendered was a sexual perversion, which might be treatable with therapy. Thankfully not all clinicians believed that but a fair few still did. Now our knowledge of neuroscience and endocrinology has advanced to the point where we know transgender brains are actually different.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 1:25:55 GMT
Erm... is that what you meant to say? Scientific paradigms change constantly, and there are major changes in scientific understanding and method at least every generation. If you think any 'scientific' point is an absolute that's a moral judgement trying to claim unchanging science as evidence, which is simply wrong. A simple example: 20 or 30 years ago it was generally thought that being transgendered was a sexual perversion, which might be treatable with therapy. Thankfully not all clinicians believed that but a fair few still did. Now our knowledge of neuroscience and endocrinology has advanced to the point where we know transgender brains are actually different. What I'm saying is you are born male or female no matter what you label yourself. This non gender and similar nonsense and wanting to tag yourself as something different is ludicrous. Makes me laugh when people us the, get with the times, is the 21st century and all this, all it means is that we are now a pampered generation where political correctness is rampant for fear of upsetting some group who want to be accepted like everyone else but feel the need to hang a tag on themselves in doing so. Like I said, if you feel that a drag artist with a ridiculous name like Flojob is the right person for young children at school then fine but don't get upset when others don't agree and use the excuse of what year it is to force your opinion on them. We have this barrier being created now of how dare you speak out against my life choice of wanting to be this or that and this absolute farce in the USA of campaigning for non gender bathrooms etc, something that simply doesn't exist but of course if you dare to tell them his you are met with abuse.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 27, 2020 1:40:43 GMT
Erm... is that what you meant to say? Scientific paradigms change constantly, and there are major changes in scientific understanding and method at least every generation. If you think any 'scientific' point is an absolute that's a moral judgement trying to claim unchanging science as evidence, which is simply wrong. A simple example: 20 or 30 years ago it was generally thought that being transgendered was a sexual perversion, which might be treatable with therapy. Thankfully not all clinicians believed that but a fair few still did. Now our knowledge of neuroscience and endocrinology has advanced to the point where we know transgender brains are actually different. What I'm saying is you are born male or female no matter what you label yourself. This non gender and similar nonsense and wanting to tag yourself as something different is ludicrous. Makes me laugh when people us the, get with the times, is the 21st century and all this, all it means is that we are now a pampered generation where political correctness is rampant for fear of upsetting some group who want to be accepted like everyone else but feel the need to hang a tag on themselves in doing so. Like I said, if you feel that a drag artist with a ridiculous name like Flojob is the right person for young children at school then fine but don't get upset when others don't agree and use the excuse of what year it is to force your opinion on them. We have this barrier being created now of how dare you speak out against my life choice of wanting to be this or that and this absolute farce in the USA of campaigning for non gender bathrooms etc, something that simply doesn't exist but of course if you dare to tell them his you are met with abuse. I do hear you... but, erm again, have you not noticed that non-gender bathrooms are getting more common in the UK too, if not in SoT? As a working psychologist I'm telling you, there's a well accepted and scientifically supported understanding that there's a small but significant group of people whose gender falls into a grey area regardless of external genitalia. Really truly, I'm not being weird about this, I'm pretty mainstream in my working practice (and I still believe in the need for women's safe spaces too). It's simply not a correct statement to say people are born male or female no matter what, sorry but that's just Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve pub talk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 2:09:29 GMT
What I'm saying is you are born male or female no matter what you label yourself. This non gender and similar nonsense and wanting to tag yourself as something different is ludicrous. Makes me laugh when people us the, get with the times, is the 21st century and all this, all it means is that we are now a pampered generation where political correctness is rampant for fear of upsetting some group who want to be accepted like everyone else but feel the need to hang a tag on themselves in doing so. Like I said, if you feel that a drag artist with a ridiculous name like Flojob is the right person for young children at school then fine but don't get upset when others don't agree and use the excuse of what year it is to force your opinion on them. We have this barrier being created now of how dare you speak out against my life choice of wanting to be this or that and this absolute farce in the USA of campaigning for non gender bathrooms etc, something that simply doesn't exist but of course if you dare to tell them his you are met with abuse. I do hear you... but, erm again, have you not noticed that non-gender bathrooms are getting more common in the UK too, if not in SoT? As a working psychologist I'm telling you, there's a well accepted and scientifically supported understanding that there's a small but significant group of people whose gender falls into a grey area regardless of external genitalia. Really truly, I'm not being weird about this, I'm pretty mainstream in my working practice (and I still believe in the need for women's safe spaces too). It's simply not a correct statement to say people are born male or female no matter what, sorry but that's just Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve pub talk. Women's safe spaces....you've just proved my point re what a pampered generation we are becoming. Do you believe in the need for men's safe spaces? You keep talking about scientific understanding etc but there is no such thing as grey areas where gender is concerned. Brainwashing children with this nonsense doesn't help either. The human population isn't developing a third sex, the fear of offending people who are trying to label themselves as something they simply aren't is trying to. The Loretta speech in the film 'Life of Brian' was a hilarious moment for it's absolute ridicule of Eric Idle's character in the film wanting to be something he simply wasn't, sadly that nonsense is now almost a blueprint for what some people are actually trying to achieve and be recognised as. They have become that character.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 27, 2020 2:29:48 GMT
I do hear you... but, erm again, have you not noticed that non-gender bathrooms are getting more common in the UK too, if not in SoT? As a working psychologist I'm telling you, there's a well accepted and scientifically supported understanding that there's a small but significant group of people whose gender falls into a grey area regardless of external genitalia. Really truly, I'm not being weird about this, I'm pretty mainstream in my working practice (and I still believe in the need for women's safe spaces too). It's simply not a correct statement to say people are born male or female no matter what, sorry but that's just Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve pub talk. Women's safe spaces....you've just proved my point re what a pampered generation we are becoming. Do you believe in the need for men's safe spaces? You keep talking about scientific understanding etc but there is no such thing as grey areas where gender is concerned. Brainwashing children with this nonsense doesn't help either. The human population isn't developing a third sex, the fear of offending people who are trying to label themselves as something they simply aren't is trying to. The Loretta speech in the film 'Life of Brian' was a hilarious moment for it's absolute ridicule of Eric Idle's character in the film wanting to be something he simply wasn't, sadly that nonsense is now almost a blueprint for what some people are actually trying to achieve and be recognised as. They have become that character. It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time
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Post by felonious on Feb 27, 2020 6:44:19 GMT
Women's safe spaces....you've just proved my point re what a pampered generation we are becoming. Do you believe in the need for men's safe spaces? You keep talking about scientific understanding etc but there is no such thing as grey areas where gender is concerned. Brainwashing children with this nonsense doesn't help either. The human population isn't developing a third sex, the fear of offending people who are trying to label themselves as something they simply aren't is trying to. The Loretta speech in the film 'Life of Brian' was a hilarious moment for it's absolute ridicule of Eric Idle's character in the film wanting to be something he simply wasn't, sadly that nonsense is now almost a blueprint for what some people are actually trying to achieve and be recognised as. They have become that character. It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time Sounds like you absolutely believe in transgender/ transvestites Sal but not quite enough to let them into your safe space of the women's bogs..... ....anyway this wasn't the point I was making in the OP. When is the correct time to introduce young children to transvestites? Surely this pioneering headteachers ears should have pricked at the name Flojob? What right has she to inflict her beliefs and views on the children in her care? It raises many legitimate questions simply because of the age of the children and the nature of this particular subject matter. The BBC radio article alluded to the social network comments made over the years by Flojob unfortunately none of them could be aired during a daytime programme aimed at adults because they were deemed fat too blue. If the pioneering headteacher is going to be perfectly honest she perhaps should have served up the actual Flojob performance instead of some sanitised PC version of a drag artist reading stories which has absolutely no bearing on the person or the act. The headteacher has said that had she had full knowledge of Flojob's internet history then Flojob would not have been invited onto the premises. Pioneering but absolutely lacking in common sense. How about letting them be kids and then from senior school onwards letting them get to know about the intricacies of the world they're going to live in with both sides of the argument. I have absolutely no problem with drag artists apart from Lily savage's metamorphasis into the dull Paul whatshisname
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 27, 2020 6:48:48 GMT
It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time Sounds like you absolutely believe in transgender/ transvestites Sal but not quite enough to let them into your safe space of the women's bogs..... ....anyway this wasn't the point I was making in the OP. When is the correct time to introduce young children to transvestites? Surely this pioneering headteachers ears should have pricked at the name Flojob? What right has she to inflict her beliefs and views on the children in her care? It raises many legitimate questions simply because of the age of the children and the nature of this particular subject matter. The BBC radio article alluded to the social network comments made over the years by Flojob unfortunately none of them could be aired during a daytime programme aimed at adults because they were deemed fat too blue. If the pioneering headteacher is going to be perfectly honest she perhaps should have served up the actual Flojob performance instead of some sanitised PC version of a drag artist reading stories which has absolutely no bearing on the person or the act. The headteacher has said that had she had full knowledge of Flojob's internet history then Flojob would not have been invited onto the premises. Pioneering but absolutely lacking in common sense. How about letting them be kids and then from senior school onwards letting them get to know about the intricacies of the world they're going to live in with both sides of the argument. I have absolutely no problem with drag artists apart from Lily savage's metamorphasis into the dull Paul whatshisname This suggests you think all people in the same position - primary teachers - should disclose all their private interests to be put to The Morality Police before being considered safe enough for public consumption. What about my ex who wanted me to dress up like a prison guard and do her up the chutney?
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 27, 2020 7:43:47 GMT
What I'm saying is you are born male or female no matter what you label yourself. This non gender and similar nonsense and wanting to tag yourself as something different is ludicrous. Makes me laugh when people us the, get with the times, is the 21st century and all this, all it means is that we are now a pampered generation where political correctness is rampant for fear of upsetting some group who want to be accepted like everyone else but feel the need to hang a tag on themselves in doing so. Like I said, if you feel that a drag artist with a ridiculous name like Flojob is the right person for young children at school then fine but don't get upset when others don't agree and use the excuse of what year it is to force your opinion on them. We have this barrier being created now of how dare you speak out against my life choice of wanting to be this or that and this absolute farce in the USA of campaigning for non gender bathrooms etc, something that simply doesn't exist but of course if you dare to tell them his you are met with abuse. I do hear you... but, erm again, have you not noticed that non-gender bathrooms are getting more common in the UK too, if not in SoT? As a working psychologist I'm telling you, there's a well accepted and scientifically supported understanding that there's a small but significant group of people whose gender falls into a grey area regardless of external genitalia. Really truly, I'm not being weird about this, I'm pretty mainstream in my working practice (and I still believe in the need for women's safe spaces too). It's simply not a correct statement to say people are born male or female no matter what, sorry but that's just Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve pub talk. As said before I’ve no issue with primary kids being introduced to a trans person. But, I’m a believer in urinals. And I’m not taking the piss. The non-gender toilet movement is a nonsense. A tiny minority causing problems for the majority. Particularly when, IMO, that small minority could be accommodated with using accessible toilets.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 27, 2020 8:24:24 GMT
What I'm saying is you are born male or female no matter what you label yourself. This non gender and similar nonsense and wanting to tag yourself as something different is ludicrous. Makes me laugh when people us the, get with the times, is the 21st century and all this, all it means is that we are now a pampered generation where political correctness is rampant for fear of upsetting some group who want to be accepted like everyone else but feel the need to hang a tag on themselves in doing so. Like I said, if you feel that a drag artist with a ridiculous name like Flojob is the right person for young children at school then fine but don't get upset when others don't agree and use the excuse of what year it is to force your opinion on them. We have this barrier being created now of how dare you speak out against my life choice of wanting to be this or that and this absolute farce in the USA of campaigning for non gender bathrooms etc, something that simply doesn't exist but of course if you dare to tell them his you are met with abuse. As a working psychologist I’d always wondered how you qualified as an Oatcake Mod... Anyroad, Off the point... Why does your avatar go all squiffy when you’re quoted. Not directly, but secondary...
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Post by yeokel on Feb 27, 2020 9:18:27 GMT
It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time Sounds like you absolutely believe in transgender/ transvestites Sal but not quite enough to let them into your safe space of the women's bogs..... ....anyway this wasn't the point I was making in the OP. When is the correct time to introduce young children to transvestites? Surely this pioneering headteachers ears should have pricked at the name Flojob? What right has she to inflict her beliefs and views on the children in her care? It raises many legitimate questions simply because of the age of the children and the nature of this particular subject matter. The BBC radio article alluded to the social network comments made over the years by Flojob unfortunately none of them could be aired during a daytime programme aimed at adults because they were deemed fat too blue. If the pioneering headteacher is going to be perfectly honest she perhaps should have served up the actual Flojob performance instead of some sanitised PC version of a drag artist reading stories which has absolutely no bearing on the person or the act. The headteacher has said that had she had full knowledge of Flojob's internet history then Flojob would not have been invited onto the premises. Pioneering but absolutely lacking in common sense. How about letting them be kids and then from senior school onwards letting them get to know about the intricacies of the world they're going to live in with both sides of the argument. I have absolutely no problem with drag artists apart from Lily savage's metamorphasis into the dull Paul whatshisname Good post Fel. There is little I can add to it other than to agree with what you said about Lilly Savage. She was one of the few comediennes who could make me laugh but, as you said, her transformation in to that Paul bloke hasn’t really worked. She is far funnier and much less serious as herself. In fact the only female who I can think of who pull off a male successfully (oooh errr) was Dame Edna when she used to do Clive James. You could almost have believed that Clive James was actually a real bloke and she gave him an amusing sense of humour too. Unfortunately, though, she seems to have killed him off so we are back to plain old Dame Edna now.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 27, 2020 9:37:50 GMT
Women's safe spaces....you've just proved my point re what a pampered generation we are becoming. Do you believe in the need for men's safe spaces? You keep talking about scientific understanding etc but there is no such thing as grey areas where gender is concerned. Brainwashing children with this nonsense doesn't help either. The human population isn't developing a third sex, the fear of offending people who are trying to label themselves as something they simply aren't is trying to. The Loretta speech in the film 'Life of Brian' was a hilarious moment for it's absolute ridicule of Eric Idle's character in the film wanting to be something he simply wasn't, sadly that nonsense is now almost a blueprint for what some people are actually trying to achieve and be recognised as. They have become that character. It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time "see you in the 18th century some time" Welcome to The Oatcakes general discussion board.
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Post by yeokel on Feb 27, 2020 9:43:40 GMT
Flojob, what next a Ladyboy? I reckon this is brilliant and the fuss is just ridiculous. Time to demystify all this gender mallarkey and join the 21st century, pretending it shouldn't exist or is pervy or dirty is idiotic (and does kids so much harm whatever their sexuality and wherever they are on the gender continuum) Don’t you mean ‘ your’ 21st century. Everyone, every creature alive today is here in the 21st century. It is equally ours as well as yours. I suspect that if you were to hold a survey of the views of humankind you would find that the vast, vast majority believe that there are basically two gender streams – male and female. I think that the majority would accept that there is a very minute ‘grey area’ in that there are a few (a very few) effeminate males and there are, equally, a few (a very few) ‘butch’ females. They should not be persecuted for that and some of them should possibly be pitied, but that is, basically, the 21st century that virtually all of us live in. It is ours. Don’t try to claim it on behalf of the “woke”, whatever that actually means, and do not denigrate the majority of humankind who understand that introducing further examples of this trumped up “gender fluidity” is not helpful or useful to the continued existence and mental stability of humankind or indeed any other animal species (except for the very few examples where it exists naturally in nature). Please feel free to join us in ‘ our’ 21st century. The survival of the human race depends on us. (if we don’t destroy the world first) Anyway, I’ve kind of lost my way writing that as my ‘work phone’ keeps ringing, so I’ll shut up for now. But, I'll be back
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 27, 2020 10:02:56 GMT
It's pampered to have a place you're not likely to get raped? ffs. see you in the 18th century some time "see you in the 18th century some time" Welcome to The Oatcakes general discussion board. If anyone is interested in a 21st century message board, I know a place
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 27, 2020 10:04:31 GMT
"see you in the 18th century some time" Welcome to The Oatcakes general discussion board. If anyone is interested in a 21st century message board, I know a place A 22nd century one might be better Ive had enough if this one already.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 27, 2020 10:25:02 GMT
If anyone is interested in a 21st century message board, I know a place A 22nd century one might be better Ive had enough if this one already. I can sort you out mate. In this life and the next
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