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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 3, 2020 22:11:42 GMT
Do really see £2m as a decent fee ? It won’t buy you buttons in today’s world It's a decent fee for Tom Edwards, as much as we all want to see a local boy do well IMO Tom hasn't improved, his career is going downhill fast, perhaps a new challenge with new surroundings, a new team coaching him and all of the local "distractions" removed may help him fulfill his early potential. Gouranga. If he moves on then a new right back is needed because tommy smith is liability he proved that at Leeds
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Post by s7oke on Sept 4, 2020 2:19:07 GMT
I prefer Edwards to smith on his day Just hope that his day hasn’t come and gone Personally if he’s sorted his head out he needs to be given another chance I also would like to see him given the chance at wing back but I’m not the manager and non of us are privy to what goes on behind closed doors If it’s a ffp exercise then I’m sure trying to offload the likes of Wimmer Bauer Bruno or one of our faltering forwards would make a lot more sense financially in the long run. I would guess that all of the above earn more than Edwards on a weekly basis
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 7:37:46 GMT
If there is a possibility of getting a decent fee for him, £2-3M, I'd say sell, sell SELL! Do you really think Blackburn and other lower league clubs are going to offer that kind of money for a second choice player?
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 4, 2020 7:40:51 GMT
If there is a possibility of getting a decent fee for him, £2-3M, I'd say sell, sell SELL! Do you really think Blackburn and other lower league clubs are going to offer that kind of money for a second choice player? No, but there was also said a PL side had an interest in him. I don't know it might just be rumours, but if we can offload for a fee like I've mentioned we should sell, absolutely no doubt about that in my opinion.
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Post by a on Sept 4, 2020 8:58:06 GMT
I’m reading League 1 standard, £2-3m max ....Jesus wept we’ve got some clowns on here They’ll probably be the same people who say on other threads that the club always do it on the cheap That’s peoples opinions though. Calling people names is a bit daft though just because they don’t match your own views.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 4, 2020 9:04:11 GMT
It looks like we will play 352 at least some of the time (if not first choice system) this season. I think we have options for this down the left but neither Edwards or Smith are suited to this as they don't have the athleticism. Edwards may well improve but he is unlikely to get quicker. If we have a chance to loan him out we should and bring in a wingback to give us flexibility in which systems we use. When he is fit again can Verlinden play right wing back?
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 4, 2020 9:07:05 GMT
If there is a possibility of getting a decent fee for him, £2-3M, I'd say sell, sell SELL! Do you really think Blackburn and other lower league clubs are going to offer that kind of money for a second choice player? How much did we pay for Smith ?
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Post by skelman on Sept 4, 2020 12:37:27 GMT
Edwards was made the scapegoat for that Butland howler against Wigan. Tom's head dropped and his game deteriorated from them. He probably didn't help himself after that but that incident clearly undermined his confidence and probably contributed to his 'attitude' allegations, as he took the brunt of the blame for what was clearly one of Butland's stream of errors. Given the right circumstances, I hope Tom stays and is given a genuine opportunity to develop and progress under the MON's guidance.
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Post by sd22 on Sept 4, 2020 12:42:44 GMT
Edwards was made the scapegoat for that Butland howler against Wigan. Tom's head dropped and his game deteriorated from them. He probably didn't help himself after that but that incident clearly undermined his confidence and probably contributed to his 'attitude' allegations, as he took the brunt of the blame for what was clearly one of Butland's stream of errors. Given the right circumstances, I hope Tom stays and is given a genuine opportunity to develop and progress under the MON's guidance. I could never see how that was his fault, I had a clear view of the goal, with Tom nicely holding off the attacker and calling jack out to claim the ball. Jack should’ve waited for about half a second and he could’ve claimed the ball with his hands in the box. Well played by Tom in my opinion, terrible keeping decision from Butland
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 4, 2020 13:36:16 GMT
I’m reading League 1 standard, £2-3m max ....Jesus wept we’ve got some clowns on here They’ll probably be the same people who say on other threads that the club always do it on the cheap ..or somebody said he can't see him being PL standard, but if a PL team is willing to take a chance that's fine. Mix it together as you want Werrington and you can make it fit in to what you like. I don't think you're a clown by the way as you seem too negative for that.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 4, 2020 14:03:57 GMT
If anyone offers 2-3m for Tom Edwards I'll show my arse in Burtons window (again)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 4, 2020 14:09:14 GMT
If anyone offers 2-3m for Tom Edwards I'll show my arse in Burtons window (again) If any deluded daft sod ever thinks Tommy Smith is worth four million quid i'll show my arse in...........oh dear....it was us again wasn't it.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 4, 2020 14:19:25 GMT
If anyone offers 2-3m for Tom Edwards I'll show my arse in Burtons window (again) Now I'm really starting to hope the PL rumours were bullshit!
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Post by miggoscfc on Sept 4, 2020 14:57:40 GMT
Just me that thinks Tom Edwards cant defend ? I quite like him as he wants to get forward and affords us that option but a defender should know the basics of defending.
Id keep him as a squad member nothing more. I suspect if he wasnt local the tone would be very different on here.
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 4, 2020 15:20:39 GMT
Just me that thinks Tom Edwards cant defend ? I quite like him as he wants to get forward and affords us that option but a defender should know the basics of defending. Id keep him as a squad member nothing more. I suspect if he wasnt local the tone would be very different on here. Not just you. The argument of him being young is lost now. The basic deficiencies in his defensive game such as positioning, knowing when to stand off or keep tight are those that even at the age of 18 you should have nailed. He's long since past that and if he hasn't got those at his age now in a higher level of professional football, it won't be getting any better. I think we should get what we can with a decent sell on condition and wish him all the best.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 4, 2020 15:26:20 GMT
Just me that thinks Tom Edwards cant defend ? I quite like him as he wants to get forward and affords us that option but a defender should know the basics of defending. Id keep him as a squad member nothing more. I suspect if he wasnt local the tone would be very different on here. Not just you. The argument of him being young is lost now. The basic deficiencies in his defensive game such as positioning, knowing when to stand off or keep tight are those that even at the age of 18 you should have nailed. He's long since past that and if he hasn't got those at his age now in a higher level of professional football, it won't be getting any better. I think we should get what we can with a decent sell on condition and wish him all the best. He's no better at defending than Bauer but at least Bauer offers some attacking threat.
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 5, 2020 11:08:41 GMT
I’m reading League 1 standard, £2-3m max ....Jesus wept we’ve got some clowns on here They’ll probably be the same people who say on other threads that the club always do it on the cheap That’s peoples opinions though. Calling people names is a bit daft though just because they don’t match your own views.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 5, 2020 11:37:33 GMT
Looking at today’s squad, have to believe MON is signalling very strongly to Tom that he is not part of his plans. Can’t make a 20 man squad that has 8 defenders in it and Shawcross our injured
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2020 11:40:06 GMT
Not just you. The argument of him being young is lost now. The basic deficiencies in his defensive game such as positioning, knowing when to stand off or keep tight are those that even at the age of 18 you should have nailed. He's long since past that and if he hasn't got those at his age now in a higher level of professional football, it won't be getting any better. I think we should get what we can with a decent sell on condition and wish him all the best. He's no better at defending than Bauer but at least Bauer offers some attacking threat. Rubbish He is better at defending than Bauer. Hard to recall a fullback caught out of position as often as Bauer plus he barely makes a tackle and is poor in the air.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 5, 2020 11:40:36 GMT
Looking at today’s squad, have to believe MON is signalling very strongly to Tom that he is not part of his plans. Can’t make a 20 man squad that has 8 defenders in it and Shawcross our injured He must be off, and I really hope he is too!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 5, 2020 11:40:49 GMT
Looking at today’s squad, have to believe MON is signalling very strongly to Tom that he is not part of his plans. Can’t make a 20 man squad that has 8 defenders in it and Shawcross our injured It certainly goes way beyond ability when you look at the squad today. Christ knows what he's done.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 5, 2020 11:41:54 GMT
Looking at today’s squad, have to believe MON is signalling very strongly to Tom that he is not part of his plans. Can’t make a 20 man squad that has 8 defenders in it and Shawcross our injured He must be off, and I really hope he is too! What an exceptionally odd thing to say.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 5, 2020 11:48:07 GMT
He must be off, and I really hope he is too! What an exceptionally odd thing to say. What's odd about that? I really don't rate him at all! Is that really odd!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 16:17:23 GMT
Do you really think Blackburn and other lower league clubs are going to offer that kind of money for a second choice player? How much did we pay for Smith ? We are not a lower league club...yet!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2020 16:19:26 GMT
When the manager mentioned the younger players doing well there was no mention of Edwards🤔
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 16:20:00 GMT
It looks like we will play 352 at least some of the time (if not first choice system) this season. I think we have options for this down the left but neither Edwards or Smith are suited to this as they don't have the athleticism. Edwards may well improve but he is unlikely to get quicker. If we have a chance to loan him out we should and bring in a wingback to give us flexibility in which systems we use. When he is fit again can Verlinden play right wing back? He can...but keep a careful eye on your blood pressure
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 16:21:25 GMT
Do you really think Blackburn and other lower league clubs are going to offer that kind of money for a second choice player? No, but there was also said a PL side had an interest in him. I don't know it might just be rumours, but if we can offload for a fee like I've mentioned we should sell, absolutely no doubt about that in my opinion. There’s clubs interested in borrowing, not buying.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 5, 2020 16:56:30 GMT
No, but there was also said a PL side had an interest in him. I don't know it might just be rumours, but if we can offload for a fee like I've mentioned we should sell, absolutely no doubt about that in my opinion. There’s clubs interested in borrowing, not buying. That's a pity, but a loan is better than nothing! Did you notice when MON were talking about our young players today he mentioned several of them, but not Edwards. I really think MON would like to see him go somewhere and show he is capable.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 5, 2020 17:33:43 GMT
It looks like we will play 352 at least some of the time (if not first choice system) this season. I think we have options for this down the left but neither Edwards or Smith are suited to this as they don't have the athleticism. Edwards may well improve but he is unlikely to get quicker. If we have a chance to loan him out we should and bring in a wingback to give us flexibility in which systems we use. When he is fit again can Verlinden play right wing back? Given O'Neill's preference for wingerless formations I think Verlinden's best bet for breaking into the starting 11 is to develop his game as a wing back. He's got the right attitude - something quite terrier like about his game - but at the moment I'm really not sure he has the physicality to deal with the role and the circumstances of his injury were a bit worrying in terms of where is body is at. He's still young so hopefully that problem will sort itself out.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2020 7:33:43 GMT
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