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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 23, 2020 16:22:00 GMT
And chopping and changing after every setback is a sure fire route to success? O'Neil's success has been based on identifying a core set of players in order to establish an understanding between the players and build an effective team on that basis. You want to throw that out of the window for no apparent reason - apart from some sort of macho display of I'm the boss. I'm sure we'll suffer a loss and O'Neil will make changes either to freshen things up, give someone a rest or give someone a chance who is showing up in training, Other times if he can't see a better option and the players have demonstrated they want to make amends he'll stick. One thing he doesn't need to do is to do the big I am and establish his authority by playing a game of "consequences" with the players. The Sheikh seems to be calling for exactly what Jones was doing towards the end of his ill-fated reign. It didn't work for Jones and I doubt it would work for MON. Managers at the biggest clubs with 25 high quality senior players can afford to mix and match with constant changes. MON has a large squad of, mostly moderate players with a few good ones and an equal number of total duds. He doesn't have the quality to follow the Jones route of trying to perm 11 from 25 each time the team puts in a bad performance. You really think no one deserves to be dropped after QPR forny? It worked out and O'Neil was brave, I have respect for him. I do think its pretty unique for no one to pay a price for that utter dross last week though and it says a lot about the managers faith in the rest of the squad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 16:25:24 GMT
The Sheikh seems to be calling for exactly what Jones was doing towards the end of his ill-fated reign. It didn't work for Jones and I doubt it would work for MON. Managers at the biggest clubs with 25 high quality senior players can afford to mix and match with constant changes. MON has a large squad of, mostly moderate players with a few good ones and an equal number of total duds. He doesn't have the quality to follow the Jones route of trying to perm 11 from 25 each time the team puts in a bad performance. You really think no one deserves to be dropped after QPR forny? It worked out and O'Neil was brave, I have respect for him. I do think its pretty unique for no one to pay a price for that utter dross last week though and it says a lot about the managers faith in the rest of the squad. I think your last line is spot on and I reckon that extends to some members of the first team too.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 23, 2020 16:48:14 GMT
The Sheikh seems to be calling for exactly what Jones was doing towards the end of his ill-fated reign. It didn't work for Jones and I doubt it would work for MON. Managers at the biggest clubs with 25 high quality senior players can afford to mix and match with constant changes. MON has a large squad of, mostly moderate players with a few good ones and an equal number of total duds. He doesn't have the quality to follow the Jones route of trying to perm 11 from 25 each time the team puts in a bad performance. You really think no one deserves to be dropped after QPR forny? It worked out and O'Neil was brave, I have respect for him. I do think its pretty unique for no one to pay a price for that utter dross last week though and it says a lot about the managers faith in the rest of the squad. There are several players who deserved to be dropped after the QPR debacle - and I never said otherwise. But the manager clearly felt that he hadn't the options available to him to give the guilty players the day off their mediocre performances deserved! And MON's bravery (or foolishness depending upon your point of view) paid off - so I'm not going to castigate him for the decisions he took. What we needed most of all yesterday was a win - and that's exactly what we got. When I saw the team line up, I didn't like the idea of playing Powell wide left as it clearly isn't his best position - but I can't argue with the performance Powell put in - nor can I argue with the performance of Thompson in the DM job. So MON is clearly well ahead of me when it comes to getting a tune out of a Stoke City fiddle which we all know falls well below Stradovarius standards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:31:39 GMT
Actually quite a few managers do, in fact I'd say all but Nathan Jones have done it at one time or another. Bit of copy and paste here!!! Apologies! The difference being.....we’re still a squad packed with frail mentalities, has developed an ability to implode under the slightest pressure and has perfected the art of succumbing meekly to defeat against any side with even a hint of quality. To recover from the disastrous performances at Derby and QPR and follow them up with crucial victories says to me that MON is highly skilled and able to manage both individuals and squads with genuine competence. The main difference is probably that we struggle away and dazzle at home, although we've had remarkably good away results since O'Neill came in.
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