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Post by christhepotter on Sept 9, 2020 8:10:55 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? In a heart beat , I don’t think MoN doesn’t rate him , I’ve heard stories about his and his father’s attitude that he doesn’t like , not sure how true it is though 🤷♂️
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Sept 9, 2020 8:11:32 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 9, 2020 8:11:32 GMT
If we are forced to sell our best young hope to Bournemouth for financial reasons the true scope of the job Scholes has done over 4 years will be encapsulated in that one transaction a utter and abjection abortion as one of the worlds biggest billionaires is outmuscled by Jason “ sunbed “ Tindall and a tinpot Imposter in comparison Tyson Fury Knocked out by John Inman It’s got nothing to do with the relative wealth of the two owners as you know full well.
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 9, 2020 8:12:29 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? Immediately. He’s a decent player but he’s still not really proven he can last a full 90 minutes has he?
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Post by march4 on Sept 9, 2020 8:14:29 GMT
I would rather we raised a couple of £million for Ince and Butland.
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Post by baystokie on Sept 9, 2020 8:19:25 GMT
If we were to sell Campbell for only £10m, then whoever handles transfers should be publicly horse whipped. Amazing how an unsubstatiated newspaper item sends this forum into a semblance of meltdown. Is it because there is little tittle-tattle about the club/the potential arrival of a pacy young 'un/the opportunity to have a go at the club's officials over an event that hasn't happened?
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Sept 9, 2020 8:22:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 9, 2020 8:22:38 GMT
Scored a couple after lockdown. Liverpool signed him from Chelsea after winning the golden ball at the Under 20 World Cup as best player and has also been in the England squad. So he does have more pedigree than a player who’s played half a season in the championship. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want us to sell Campbell but to say he’s in that category is wrong. he's in a higher category, scoring in junior football means nothing, he's already played at a higher level than solanke at that age and scored far more goals already than solanke who is two years older. He's a far better player than solanke, anyone can see that. There is no way you sell him for less than they spent on Solanke. He has huge potential. For some reason you haven't taken to him, that is clear from your previous posts. Rhian Brewster is the comparison to use here, they are both worth roughly the same right now To be fair I agree on the Brewster comparison who I would say is a little ahead of Campbell. I also think clubs will pay more for a player who has succeeded at International youth level. Also it’s not that I haven’t taken to Campbell I just think people of placing too much expectation on him to deliver for a promotion push that’s all.
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 9, 2020 8:27:35 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? In a heart beat , I don’t think MoN doesn’t rate him , I’ve heard stories about his and his father’s attitude that he doesn’t like , not sure how true it is though 🤷♂️ I've heard stories that you're full of shit, not sure how true it is though.
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Sept 9, 2020 8:35:10 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 9, 2020 8:35:10 GMT
In a heart beat , I don’t think MoN doesn’t rate him , I’ve heard stories about his and his father’s attitude that he doesn’t like , not sure how true it is though 🤷♂️ I've heard stories that you're full of shit, not sure how true it is though. Bit harsh. I think when the stories came out about his contract negotiations and the public statements his dad was putting out on Twitter kind of back up his dad being a bit awkward. But at the same time he was looking out for his son and making sure he got the best result. Player/Agent power could be involved in this, particularly if Campbell isn't going to be first choice automatically - he may well want to move to someone who guarantees it.
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Sept 9, 2020 8:39:52 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 9, 2020 8:39:52 GMT
Think we’d be mad to sell him personally. Campbell and Fletcher is on paper as good as any partnership in the league and with Brown, Powell, Ince, McClean and Tymon we should hopefully find a combo that can supply them with the service they need to bang in a shed load of goals.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 9, 2020 8:44:40 GMT
We almost certainly have to sell someone for money, even more so now that we appear struggling to offload players, to stay within whatever FFP requirements are put in place and to provide some funds for MON. With Butland stuck, Allen injured and Ince out of form, Clucas and Campbell are our only marketable assets. £10 million would provide some space to pay for the £15 million burden we have to cover this season because of Rowett and Jones' transfer dealings You've missed the name of one person from the 'transfer team' still unfathomably employed by the club in your final sentence. There is no indication that we need' to sell Campbell at all and even if we do, for once, we hold all the cards. £10M would be gross negligence. Signs are pretty clear we have little flexibility in the transfer market. That means we are very exposed to how the EFL interpret the leeway on FFP due to Corona. That means we need to generate some revenue and like last season, we’re probably hoping it will be Butland. If it isn’t then as I said Campbell or Clucas might have to go. (If Derby won their appeal and we are willing to adopt their accounting approach that might mean we don’t have to sell - but Bet365 are notoriously conservative in their approach to accounts). It is convenient to blame Scholes but Rowett and Jones were both given control over signings by the owners to persuade them to come, the £15 million write off we have to cover is down to the managers not the CEO.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 9, 2020 8:51:38 GMT
Think we’d be mad to sell him personally. Campbell and Fletcher is on paper as good as any partnership in the league and with Brown, Powell, Ince, McClean and Tymon we should hopefully find a combo that can supply them with the service they need to bang in a shed load of goals. I agree on his potential - he's really exciting and I'd be very upset if he went. But it does look like MON could well choose to go in with the Gregory-Vokes front 2 he finished the season with on Saturday (with Fletcher to come back too) And we've just spent £2m+ on someone who's going to squeeze him on the right in the 50% (?) of games we play 4-3-3 - and he's on record as saying he can't play on his own up front in that formation which will probably be his long-term chosen way of playing Ince seems unshiftable and is another highly-paid option there too. Without FFP, I don't think we'd really have much of a decision to make. But with it constantly lurking in the background now - and if he isn't seen as a really integral starter, who knows?
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Sept 9, 2020 8:59:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2020 8:59:57 GMT
Bit baffled by this idea that MON doesn’t rate Campbell given he played a central role in him signing a new contract earlier this year. If he does go to Bournemouth I hope we can hold out for much more than the £10m quoted in that article - Bournemouth have made a huge amount in player sales this summer and probably still have a few more to go out like Brooks. I get the feeling that if one person posts it enough it becomes fact. I haven’t said it’s fact and far from it. Literally couldn’t have said more caveats around it. But I believe it to be true.
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Sept 9, 2020 9:02:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2020 9:02:52 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? I don’t think we should be selling him tbh but 20m would obviously see us sell and I don’t think we could argue with that. But I don’t think it should be for much less and should definitely start at 15 with add ons making it 20+. What worries me is if MON doesn’t rate him. That’s tremendously bad judgement.
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Sept 9, 2020 9:04:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2020 9:04:31 GMT
Think we’d be mad to sell him personally. Campbell and Fletcher is on paper as good as any partnership in the league and with Brown, Powell, Ince, McClean and Tymon we should hopefully find a combo that can supply them with the service they need to bang in a shed load of goals. I agree on his potential - he's really exciting and I'd be very upset if he went. But it does look like MON could well choose to go in with the Gregory-Vokes front 2 he finished the season with on Saturday (with Fletcher to come back too) And we've just spent £2m+ on someone who's going to squeeze him on the right in the 50% (?) of games we play 4-3-3 - and he's on record as saying he can't play on his own up front in that formation which will probably be his long-term chosen way of playing Ince seems unshiftable and is another highly-paid option there too. Without FFP, I don't think we'd really have much of a decision to make. But with it constantly lurking in the background now - and if he isn't seen as a really integral starter, who knows? Gregory and Vokes, how awful
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Sept 9, 2020 9:07:38 GMT
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 9, 2020 9:07:38 GMT
In a heart beat , I don’t think MoN doesn’t rate him , I’ve heard stories about his and his father’s attitude that he doesn’t like , not sure how true it is though 🤷♂️ I've heard stories that you're full of shit, not sure how true it is though. Makes a change from your Mrs been full of me though 👍
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 9, 2020 9:11:49 GMT
I agree on his potential - he's really exciting and I'd be very upset if he went. But it does look like MON could well choose to go in with the Gregory-Vokes front 2 he finished the season with on Saturday (with Fletcher to come back too) And we've just spent £2m+ on someone who's going to squeeze him on the right in the 50% (?) of games we play 4-3-3 - and he's on record as saying he can't play on his own up front in that formation which will probably be his long-term chosen way of playing Ince seems unshiftable and is another highly-paid option there too. Without FFP, I don't think we'd really have much of a decision to make. But with it constantly lurking in the background now - and if he isn't seen as a really integral starter, who knows? Gregory and Vokes, how awful On paper it does seem..er...underwhelming But MON went with them in the last 3 games and our main tune-up friendly at Newcastle, once Vokes was fit again. And the results have been undeniably good. We'll see - maybe the Bournemouth interest is not real and maybe Campbell will start at Millwall?
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Post by pmjh on Sept 9, 2020 9:32:04 GMT
I love how some of our fans like to talk our players down. We payed 9 Mill for Vokes and 10 Mill for Afobe. Anyone bidding less than 15 for a 20 year old on a long contract averaging a goal every other game in his first half season should be laughed at.
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Post by Gifton on Sept 9, 2020 9:37:31 GMT
I would rather we raised a couple of £million for Ince and Butland. so would we all but there isn't a queue of suitors for either.
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Sept 9, 2020 9:39:46 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 9, 2020 9:39:46 GMT
If we are forced to sell our best young hope to Bournemouth for financial reasons the true scope of the job Scholes has done over 4 years will be encapsulated in that one transaction a utter and abjection abortion as one of the worlds biggest billionaires is outmuscled by Jason “ sunbed “ Tindall and a tinpot Imposter in comparison Tyson Fury Knocked out by John Inman It’s got nothing to do with the relative wealth of the two owners as you know full well. Rubbish as the announcement today sayS Tony Scholes is responsible for all football matters He has billionaire backing and has made a absolute abortion of it in every conceivable aspect
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Post by lordb on Sept 9, 2020 9:40:08 GMT
I love how some of our fans like to talk our players down. We payed 9 Mill for Vokes and 10 Mill for Afobe. Anyone bidding less than 15 for a 20 year old on a long contract averaging a goal every other game in his first half season should be laughed at. £7m for Vokes + add one based on promotion (so £7m then) £12m for Afobe mind But yes no need to cash in on Campbell for £10m Keep him, either he fires us to promotion or his value goes up and we sell him next summer for £20m
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Sept 9, 2020 9:51:53 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 9, 2020 9:51:53 GMT
If we sell Campbell for anything other than ridiculous money we might as well pack up and go home, if he stays fit and plays dont see how he doesn't get 15 goals absolute minimum, I suspect he will get even more and fully expect him to start next season at a premier league club which is hopefully us.
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Sept 9, 2020 10:06:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 9, 2020 10:06:15 GMT
Gregory and Vokes, how awful On paper it does seem..er...underwhelming But MON went with them in the last 3 games and our main tune-up friendly at Newcastle, once Vokes was fit again. And the results have been undeniably good. We'll see - maybe the Bournemouth interest is not real and maybe Campbell will start at Millwall? I’d rather chop my bollocks off with a rusty knife than watch them pair especially Gregory play for us. Awful.
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Sept 9, 2020 10:13:48 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 9, 2020 10:13:48 GMT
I love how some of our fans like to talk our players down. We payed 9 Mill for Vokes and 10 Mill for Afobe. Anyone bidding less than 15 for a 20 year old on a long contract averaging a goal every other game in his first half season should be laughed at. Yet they sold a proven Premier league striker for £20mill? They'll offer nowhere near 15.
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Sept 9, 2020 10:14:28 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 9, 2020 10:14:28 GMT
Think we’d be mad to sell him personally. Campbell and Fletcher is on paper as good as any partnership in the league and with Brown, Powell, Ince, McClean and Tymon we should hopefully find a combo that can supply them with the service they need to bang in a shed load of goals. I agree on his potential - he's really exciting and I'd be very upset if he went. But it does look like MON could well choose to go in with the Gregory-Vokes front 2 he finished the season with on Saturday (with Fletcher to come back too) And we've just spent £2m+ on someone who's going to squeeze him on the right in the 50% (?) of games we play 4-3-3 - and he's on record as saying he can't play on his own up front in that formation which will probably be his long-term chosen way of playing Ince seems unshiftable and is another highly-paid option there too. Without FFP, I don't think we'd really have much of a decision to make. But with it constantly lurking in the background now - and if he isn't seen as a really integral starter, who knows? Yeah all very fair points. Personally I’d be moving heaven and earth to shift Vokes and/or Gregory instead. As you say, I guess the harsh reality is that it is pretty hard for a club like us to have a £15m+ asset not in our starting 11 week in week out, which does tie our hand to an extent. I’d like to trust MON on this one but I’d very concerned about losing Campbell’s goals. Really puts us on the backfoot and we suddenly look very toothless if Fletcher doesn’t hit the ground running.
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Post by werrington on Sept 9, 2020 10:17:01 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase here
If all this has substance and Tyrese Campbell played for Bournemouth in a similar scenario they’d be asking a lot more than £10m for him
Of that there’s no doubt
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 10:22:49 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase here If all this has substance and Tyrese Campbell played for Bournemouth in a similar scenario they’d be asking a lot more than £10m for him Of that there’s no doubt You are right on one hand, but look at it from the other side. If they did sign Campbell, how would any valuation fit in with the fact they've just sold Callum Wilson - a supposed proven PL player with a roughly 1 in 3 record for Bournemouth, at 28 and in his prime, for just 20M? Ollie Watkins is going for 10M more for example. They'd look at it from their point of view and value Campbell at half of Wilson's value.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2020 10:24:27 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? Only if it means spending half of it on the squad (plus Brown), we'd be losing our only bit of pace we have and he scores goals, after typing that it made me think sod it, I'd keep him for 20mil If they want promotion we can't be losing our best players, FFP may be tight but they need to make it work with him in the squad.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2020 10:26:08 GMT
How many on here would accept a 20 million bid for him? Immediately. He’s a decent player but he’s still not really proven he can last a full 90 minutes has he? If he scores in the 70mins he's on the pitch I don't think that matters too much, not long ago I was one of those unconvinced by him but he's come on along way by then and become a very important player for us, just look at the options we have if he goes, its not a pretty sight.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2020 10:28:00 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase here If all this has substance and Tyrese Campbell played for Bournemouth in a similar scenario they’d be asking a lot more than £10m for him Of that there’s no doubt You are right on one hand, but look at it from the other side. If they did sign Campbell, how would any valuation fit in with the fact they've just sold Callum Wilson - a supposed proven PL player with a roughly 1 in 3 record for Bournemouth, at 28 and in his prime, for just 20M? Ollie Watkins is going for 10M more for example. They'd look at it from their point of view and value Campbell at half of Wilson's value. Would the saving on wages balance out Wilsons fee a bit, he must have been on a decent wage.
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 9, 2020 10:31:17 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase here If all this has substance and Tyrese Campbell played for Bournemouth in a similar scenario they’d be asking a lot more than £10m for him Of that there’s no doubt You are right on one hand, but look at it from the other side. If they did sign Campbell, how would any valuation fit in with the fact they've just sold Callum Wilson - a supposed proven PL player with a roughly 1 in 3 record for Bournemouth, at 28 and in his prime, for just 20M? Ollie Watkins is going for 10M more for example. They'd look at it from their point of view and value Campbell at half of Wilson's value. He’s in poor form, 29 next year and with two dodgy knees. I think it’s a fair price when you factor in all those downsides and I’d be wanting something similar for Campbell to reflect his potential.
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