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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 20, 2020 16:00:56 GMT
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Post by waffles on Feb 20, 2020 16:58:18 GMT
Hopefully being the word
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 20, 2020 17:05:39 GMT
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 20, 2020 17:14:23 GMT
As poor as our back line is, I would;n' be rushing him back. As long as he gets a bit of game time before the end of the season I'll be happy.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 20, 2020 17:19:37 GMT
D N A
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Post by adi on Feb 20, 2020 18:43:09 GMT
Hope he can regain form but to be honest I’m skeptical given his age and injuries. Anyway I thought Butland was our best player 😂
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 20, 2020 20:03:55 GMT
Hope he can regain form but to be honest I’m skeptical given his age and injuries. Anyway I thought Butland was our best player 😂 Nah, I'd still say Ryan is, as he has been for most of the last 13 years. It's only when you watch our most recent defensive performances that you realise how much we took for granted his effortless marshalling of Diego Costa et al. |
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Post by stokefc on Feb 20, 2020 20:19:17 GMT
Hope he can regain form but to be honest I’m skeptical given his age and injuries. Anyway I thought Butland was our best player 😂 Nah, I'd still say Ryan is, as he has been for most of the last 13 years. It's only when you watch our most recent defensive performances that you realise how much we took for granted his effortless marshalling of Diego Costa et al. He's been our best player this season...ffs |
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Post by Gods on Feb 20, 2020 20:21:40 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it.
Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Asmir Begovic barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it in front, 4 giants of the game, this was the platform on which we stood.
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Post by stokiesteve on Feb 20, 2020 20:36:16 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Bego barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it just in front, 4 guant men, this was the platform on which we stood. Don’t I’m sobbing We had it all |
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 20, 2020 20:40:50 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Bego barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it in front, 4 giant men, this was the platform on which we stood. from that to a completely lost Jack Butland, two wankstain CBs, and Joe Allen I want to die |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 20, 2020 20:58:56 GMT
Hope he can regain form but to be honest I’m skeptical given his age and injuries. Anyway I thought Butland was our best player 😂 Nah, I'd still say Ryan is, as he has been for most of the last 13 years. It's only when you watch our most recent defensive performances that you realise how much we took for granted his effortless marshalling of Diego Costa et al. I remember posting similar at the time. Think it was after his outstanding performance at man city where he didn't give aguero a kick. We took his high standards for granted so others got the plaudits when they were nowhere near ryan. His excellence was just expected so he always got more criticism than he deserved whilst never getting the credit he merited. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 20, 2020 21:04:14 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Bego barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it just in front, 4 guant men, this was the platform on which we stood. Don’t I’m sobbing We had it all We did, and people still ask what went wrong! |
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 20, 2020 21:07:06 GMT
I will always hate Roy Hodgson.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 20, 2020 21:32:22 GMT
Ryan must look about in training and see the likes of Batth and Lindsay and wonder what the fuck happened
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Post by robstokie on Feb 20, 2020 21:33:46 GMT
I will always hate Roy Hodgson. Remember them days - how the likes of Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Phil Jagielka and Even Callum fucking Chambers were above Ryan in the pecking order still baffles me to this day. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 21, 2020 0:07:30 GMT
Nah, I'd still say Ryan is, as he has been for most of the last 13 years. It's only when you watch our most recent defensive performances that you realise how much we took for granted his effortless marshalling of Diego Costa et al. I remember posting similar at the time. Think it was after his outstanding performance at man city where he didn't give aguero a kick. We took his high standards for granted so others got the plaudits when they were nowhere near ryan. His excellence was just expected so he always got more criticism than he deserved whilst never getting the credit he merited. I think his very peak was in the first half of the 2015/16 season, when he was comfortably the best defender in the country in terms of form. Up until his back injury away at Leicester, we hadn't conceded a single goal while he was on the pitch. After that, the 3 goal drubbing started to leak through. Speaking of others getting the plaudits, it's typical that during that time, when we had England's best defender as the platform of our success, we took on the Stokelona tag. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 21, 2020 0:57:21 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Bego barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it just in front, 4 guant men, this was the platform on which we stood. Don’t I’m sobbing We had it all Remember when we held on in the rain....... Help me get that feeling back again!  |
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 21, 2020 5:49:15 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Asmir Begovic barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it in front, 4 giants of the game, this was the platform on which we stood. We still conceded loads of goals from set pieces. |
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Post by rawli on Feb 21, 2020 7:57:16 GMT
I will always hate Roy Hodgson. Remember them days - how the likes of Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Phil Jagielka and Even Callum fucking Chambers were above Ryan in the pecking order still baffles me to this day. Wenger and his London media sycophants made sure that weak minded Hodgson wouldn't dare pick him. When he did he was given Ibrahimovic to mark when the senior defender Cahill should have picked him up. It was all an exercise aimed at Hodgson showing everyone how right he'd been about Ryan all along. |
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Post by lifelong on Feb 21, 2020 8:42:11 GMT
he played for Stoke so never stood a chance to play for England.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 9:21:57 GMT
That defensive diamond, I can still picture it. Ryan and Huth in the middle like two night club bouncers, prime time Asmir Begovic barking out orders behind them and the great Steven N'Zonzi bossing it in front, 4 giants of the game, this was the platform on which we stood. I still have nightmares about how wasted N'Zonzi was under Tony Pulis. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 21, 2020 9:27:31 GMT
Remember them days - how the likes of Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Phil Jagielka and Even Callum fucking Chambers were above Ryan in the pecking order still baffles me to this day. Wenger and his London media sycophants made sure that weak minded Hodgson wouldn't dare pick him. When he did he was given Ibrahimovic to mark when the senior defender Cahill should have picked him up. It was all an exercise aimed at Hodgson showing everyone how right he'd been about Ryan all along. I am a massive Ryan fan and he was immense for us alongside Huth but the truth is he never was international level. |
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Post by femark on Feb 21, 2020 9:34:56 GMT
Wenger and his London media sycophants made sure that weak minded Hodgson wouldn't dare pick him. When he did he was given Ibrahimovic to mark when the senior defender Cahill should have picked him up. It was all an exercise aimed at Hodgson showing everyone how right he'd been about Ryan all along. I am a massive Ryan fan and he was immense for us alongside Huth but the truth is he never was international level. If Southgate was manager back then he'd of been a regular. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 21, 2020 9:41:28 GMT
I am a massive Ryan fan and he was immense for us alongside Huth but the truth is he never was international level. If Southgate was manager back then he'd of been a regular. I doubt it very much, Southgate wouldn’t have been put off by him playing for Stoke but that wouldn't have made him international standard. |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 21, 2020 9:50:00 GMT
Wenger and his London media sycophants made sure that weak minded Hodgson wouldn't dare pick him. When he did he was given Ibrahimovic to mark when the senior defender Cahill should have picked him up. It was all an exercise aimed at Hodgson showing everyone how right he'd been about Ryan all along. I am a massive Ryan fan and he was immense for us alongside Huth but the truth is he never was international level. For two seasons Ryan was the best CB in the league so on that alone he should of been called up although he did get called up by Capello but then the incident with Ramsey put paid to that. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 21, 2020 9:51:30 GMT
I am a massive Ryan fan and he was immense for us alongside Huth but the truth is he never was international level. For two seasons Ryan was the best CB in the league so on that alone he should of been called up although he did get called up by Capello but then the incident with Ramsey put paid to that. Which seasons were those? |
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 21, 2020 9:56:12 GMT
For two seasons Ryan was the best CB in the league so on that alone he should of been called up although he did get called up by Capello but then the incident with Ramsey put paid to that. Which seasons were those? I'd say around 20009 to maybe 2013 was an excellent period for Ryan. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 21, 2020 10:02:11 GMT
Which seasons were those? I'd say around 20009 to maybe 2013 was an excellent period for Ryan. Better than Rio Ferdinand? I don't think so. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 21, 2020 10:06:59 GMT
Ryan must look about in training and see the likes of Batth and Lindsay and wonder what the fuck happened Hopefully he’s looking at Collins and seeing himself when he started to break through! |
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