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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2020 10:52:51 GMT
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Post by Northy on Feb 20, 2020 10:56:16 GMT
That's pretty disgusting all round UEFA need to look into this and issue a statement on it P.S. Nice to see you reading the Daily Mail
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Feb 20, 2020 10:57:19 GMT
Madness!
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 20, 2020 11:00:38 GMT
Bloody ridiculous. The only way to test them would be to get a small club to make the same request.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 20, 2020 11:05:30 GMT
What's mad is that Martin bloody Braithwaite has signed for Barcelona. He must be pinching himself. He won't get anywhere near the side next season and be out on loan counting his money.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 11:07:12 GMT
Absolutely pathetic decision.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 20, 2020 11:23:07 GMT
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Post by whatpricehudson26 on Feb 20, 2020 11:34:07 GMT
Whats that all about? Given permission to sign a forward outside of the transfer window because Dembele ruled out for 6 months. Isn't that just tough luck? Surely sets a precedent?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 20, 2020 11:37:32 GMT
So it's not just a madcap one off decision, it's an inequity wilfully built into the system. Bloody hell!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 11:39:33 GMT
Whats that all about? Given permission to sign a forward outside of the transfer window because Dembele ruled out for 6 months. Isn't that just tough luck? Surely sets a precedent? Does this mean Leganes get to make an emergency signing too? After all he's top of their goals and assists I believe... It's not unprecedented but it's just absolute bullshit all the same.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 20, 2020 11:43:23 GMT
We urgently need at least six new players so come on Stoke take advantage of this!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 11:47:52 GMT
Leganes have been denied the ability to replace Braithwaite... This fucks me off so much, of all the teams that would need the ability to replace players surely it is those at the foot of the table who don't have the depth that clubs like Barcelona have.
It's honestly fucking ridiculous I hate Barca.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 20, 2020 12:06:00 GMT
Leganes have been denied the ability to replace Braithwaite... This fucks me off so much, of all the teams that would need the ability to replace players surely it is those at the foot of the table who don't have the depth that clubs like Barcelona have. It's honestly fucking ridiculous I hate Barca. It's UEFA that is corrupt. Barca are just taking advantage of it. Who wouldn't? I wonder if Spuds are applying for the same rule bending? If they did they wouldn't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 12:13:52 GMT
So it's the Spanish transfer system that's the issue
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 20, 2020 12:53:53 GMT
Leganes have been denied the ability to replace Braithwaite... This fucks me off so much, of all the teams that would need the ability to replace players surely it is those at the foot of the table who don't have the depth that clubs like Barcelona have. It's honestly fucking ridiculous I hate Barca. It's UEFA that is corrupt. Barca are just taking advantage of it. Who wouldn't? I wonder if Spuds are applying for the same rule bending? If they did they wouldn't get it. It's nothing to do with UEFA, It's the Spanish FA, that's why they could only buy a player from another Spanish club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2020 12:57:52 GMT
The Barca board are so bad. Nothing they do makes any sense.
But what a joke of a decision to allow them to do it.
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 20, 2020 12:59:52 GMT
Football is rotten
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Post by RF10 on Feb 20, 2020 13:00:56 GMT
Couldn't Leganes just tell them to fuck off and he's not being sold?
EDIT: just realised it was a buyout clause
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 20, 2020 13:08:05 GMT
Couldn't Leganes just tell them to fuck off and he's not being sold? EDIT: just realised it was a buyout clause They've met £16MILLION release clause. EDIT: I've just seen that you've just seen.
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 20, 2020 13:14:34 GMT
That is Leganes effectively relegated. He's scored 6 this season and is their top scorer, not exactly prolific but the rest of the team are hardly chipping with goals. They then go and slap a £250 million release clause on him, which is fucking insane. Leganes are the losers here.
The Barca board are completely mad recently with Bartomeu.
Just shit that they will get away with this, and then the nerve for a La Liga committee to say Leganes aren't allowed to sign a replacement only makes the whole thing stink more.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 20, 2020 13:33:38 GMT
It's UEFA that is corrupt. Barca are just taking advantage of it. Who wouldn't? I wonder if Spuds are applying for the same rule bending? If they did they wouldn't get it. It's nothing to do with UEFA, It's the Spanish FA, that's why they could only buy a player from another Spanish club. Who regulates the Spanish FA?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 13:38:31 GMT
It's nothing to do with UEFA, It's the Spanish FA, that's why they could only buy a player from another Spanish club. Who regulates the Spanish FA? Barca and Real?
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 20, 2020 13:40:16 GMT
It's nothing to do with UEFA, It's the Spanish FA, that's why they could only buy a player from another Spanish club. Who regulates the Spanish FA? Domestically ? Themselves obviously otherwise the same emergency rule would apply to all leagues. A bit like how the premier league brought forward the transfer deadline this year, that was a rule change by our FA and only effected our leagues.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 20, 2020 13:46:52 GMT
Who regulates the Spanish FA? Domestically ? Themselves obviously otherwise the same emergency rule would apply to all leagues. A bit like how the premier league brought forward the transfer deadline this year, that was a rule change by our FA and only effected our leagues. Mate you're right but Shirley UEFA introduced the transfer window and therefore set a broad framework ie whatever dates the domestic leagues set then no transfers allowed outside those parameters. Therefore you would assume that UEFA must have sanctioned this transfer outside the Spanish window. If not why don't all the other leagues cheat like this?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 20, 2020 14:27:09 GMT
The Barca board are so bad. Nothing they do makes any sense. But what a joke of a decision to allow them to do it. One of the major drawbacks of having an election based system, it allows ego-maniacs revel in their own pomposity and misguided grandiosity.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 20, 2020 14:29:13 GMT
Domestically ? Themselves obviously otherwise the same emergency rule would apply to all leagues. A bit like how the premier league brought forward the transfer deadline this year, that was a rule change by our FA and only effected our leagues. Mate you're right but Shirley UEFA introduced the transfer window and therefore set a broad framework ie whatever dates the domestic leagues set then no transfers allowed outside those parameters. Therefore you would assume that UEFA must have sanctioned this transfer outside the Spanish window. If not why don't all the other leagues cheat like this?
All football associations have their own transfer rules which have to be approved by FIFA and meet their guidelines.
They (FIFA) stipulate that no player can be transferred to another club outside of the transfer windows and during the season of that association, unless they can prove just cause within that associations current rules i.e. it's the association NOT FIFA that determine what is/isn't a "Just cause".
In Spain's case, they decided that a player being out for 5 months is "just cause" for an emergency transfer to be allowed. As long as this transfer fits within that rule of the Spanish FA then FIFA or UEFA can't stop it.
In the EFL's case we can have emergency loans for goalkeepers if all other professional keepers at the club are injured/unavailable. As long as any emergency loan takes place within that rule of the EFL, then FIFA or UEFA can't stop it.
Basically, some associations (like the EFL) are sensible and realise that emergency deals should only be made if you are down to the absolute bare bones and in a situation where literally no-one can play in that position at the next professional game i.e. an emergency
Some associations (like the Spanish FA) however, take the piss by saying that although you may still have 3 forwards who could play, you can buy someone else anyway as he may be better than the 3 you currently have on the training ground i.e. not an emergency but hey, it helps!...oh and if you meet a club's release clause then they can't refuse to sell...oh and you big clubs can set the release clauses however high you want, so no-one else can pinch one of your players if they're in that position...and if the club that have had to lose a player to the bigger club don't also have a player that just happens to be out for over 5 months, then they can't replace the player just stolen off them, as they don't fit the "Just cause" rule that Spain decided upon.
As has been mentioned, to formulate the rules in the way that they have is obviously intentional and can only ever favour big clubs and keep the little clubs in their place. Smaller clubs would have to manage with only having 3 forwards left, as they'd be unlikely to be able to meet release clauses for other players mid-season but bigger clubs can take who they want, when they want and everyone else can only sit back and watch their best players being stolen.
If Spain want to be able to have emergency transfers in this way, then release clauses over there have to stop as emergency transfers should always be mutually agreed by both clubs (as it is over here for emergency loans of keepers), but with release clauses in place then the smaller club has literally nothing that they can do about it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 14:30:44 GMT
Leganes have been denied the ability to replace Braithwaite... This fucks me off so much, of all the teams that would need the ability to replace players surely it is those at the foot of the table who don't have the depth that clubs like Barcelona have. It's honestly fucking ridiculous I hate Barca. It's UEFA that is corrupt. Barca are just taking advantage of it. Who wouldn't? I wonder if Spuds are applying for the same rule bending? If they did they wouldn't get it. It has nothing to do with UEFA in all fairness, it's a Spanish League thing.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 20, 2020 14:35:15 GMT
Domestically ? Themselves obviously otherwise the same emergency rule would apply to all leagues. A bit like how the premier league brought forward the transfer deadline this year, that was a rule change by our FA and only effected our leagues. Mate you're right but Shirley UEFA introduced the transfer window and therefore set a broad framework ie whatever dates the domestic leagues set then no transfers allowed outside those parameters. Therefore you would assume that UEFA must have sanctioned this transfer outside the Spanish window. If not why don't all the other leagues cheat like this? Emergency loans and transfers are built into the transfer window system (which was brought in by FIFA) and are allowed purely at the discretion of the National Administrators. In most cases, it's only allowed when several goalkeepers are injured. Man City did it with the late Marton Fulop around 10 years ago in April, because Shay Given was injured, Joe Hart was on loan and Stuart Taylor was also unavailable.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 20, 2020 14:48:24 GMT
Couldn't Leganes just tell them to fuck off and he's not being sold? EDIT: just realised it was a buyout clause Yeah so for 16m quid - peanuts to them - a team with arguably the most talent-rich youth system in the world to draw on has been allowed to buy themselves out of a partially self-inflicted injury crisis and transfer the problem wholesale to a team at the bottom of the table, who are now not allowed to replace their most important player who they could have had no clue whatsoever they were going to lose. Proper mind-boggling
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Post by lifelong on Feb 20, 2020 14:50:58 GMT
from the official UEFA website. Make of it what you will
"UEFA – the Union of European Football Associations – is the governing body of European football. It is an association of associations, a representative democracy, and is the umbrella organisation for 55 national football associations across Europe. Its objectives are, among other things, to deal with all questions relating to European football, to promote football in a spirit of unity, solidarity, peace, understanding and fair play, without any discrimination on the part of politics, race, religion, gender or any other reason, to safeguard the values of European football, promote and protect ethical standards and good governance in European football, maintain relations with all stakeholders involved in European football, and support and safeguard its member associations for the overall well-being of the European game."
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