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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 18:34:39 GMT
Mate ignore it with a bit of luck he'll delete his account. The worst bait in the history of the Oatie I just completely blank him. I'm a dick at times but wow he never rests. Which account his regular sleeper with over 15,000 or one of his throw away reincarnations, he is a sick man is simple S*mon Being honest mate I've no idea who he/she or it is or how many duplicates he/she or it has, putting it simply I'm not interested in anything he/she it has to say. His/her or it's only contribution is nasty abusive trolling.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 18:35:27 GMT
Unfortunately on the news just it gone upto 10 victims.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 18:36:39 GMT
We went to Heidelberg(just down the road from Frankfurt)before the kids were born. I think it must have been shut it was so boring... Anyway, if wasn’t for smoking in the shisha bars with the Turks, the whole weekend would have been lost 🚬💋 I've driven to Heidelberg on a bit of a European tour and really like it...vowed to go back. I'm sure that all of us on the board would agree that any killing of innocents is tragic, whether right wing or Muslim terrorist in origin.....something we can surely agree on. I don't think it is a case of who posts first really. It seems that the right wing terrorists such as that of Anders Breivik SEEM, at the moment, as they tend to act individually but are inspired by their Racism/ racist ideology/groups/ loose network of propaganda/ common ideology....... The authorities often say that these right wing groups are the greatest threat to peace on the West...I'm not sure that is the case, it may be, but irrespective, if they are infiltrated/ dealt with harshly then we will all be safer. I'm not sure what more can be said, but it is a shame that many issues are reduced to " sides" and personalities on the EE board. Any one of us could be subject to these atrocities. Agree with pretty much all of that. If it had been caused by a Muslim extremist this thread would be into its 3rd or 4th page now though, of that I’m certain......
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 18:37:34 GMT
A regular muslim worshipper attacked another muslim who do you want to blame ? Christian's it's all their fault. In this instance it's a white man though isn't it, you dunderhead
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 18:38:11 GMT
Which account his regular sleeper with over 15,000 or one of his throw away reincarnations, he is a sick man is simple S*mon Being honest mate I've no idea who he/she or it is or how many duplicates he/she or it has, putting it simply I'm not interested in anything he/she it has to say. His/her or it's only contribution is nasty abusive trolling. My pronouns are He/Him. Thanks for asking.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 18:39:27 GMT
Though using 'it' is possibly problematic.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 20, 2020 18:45:19 GMT
Unfortunately on the news just it gone upto 10 victims. Very sad news. It's a shitty world that we live in at the mo.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 20, 2020 18:59:43 GMT
May be. Reasons for posting imbalance.... It may be because It is easier to identify the underlying unifying ideology and because there are other aspects of that ideology that question and challenge mainstream culture on other wider issues. May be because it easier to generalise and to see Islam as a threat to " western values' with for example reference to the ( misunderstood) reference to jihad.I don't know. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT it is ok to kill Muslims.Nothing can justify killing innocent people. In my opinion it is simply incredibly nonsensically to try to justify indiscrominate killing....it could be your son, mother etc. I would have thought that we can agree that this and similar incidents need to be condemned and potential perpetrators rooted out....to state the obvious. What does the future hold? Can Islam and Western values co-exist? If so HOW? It seems to me that it is hard not to imagine a future of more polarisation, entrenched views , parallel communities, hatred despite the best attempts for dialogue and more incidents like this. It always seems that the most innocent suffer the most.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:12:06 GMT
May be. Reasons for posting imbalance.... It may be because It is easier to identify the underlying unifying ideology and because there are other aspects of that ideology that question and challenge mainstream culture on other wider issues. May be because it easier to generalise and to see Islam as a threat to " western values' with for example reference to the ( misunderstood) reference to jihad.I don't know. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT it is ok to kill Muslims.Nothing can justify killing innocent people. In my opinion it is simply incredibly nonsensically to try to justify indiscrominate killing....it could be your son, mother etc. I would have thought that we can agree that this and similar incidents need to be condemned and potential perpetrators rooted out....to state the obvious. What does the future hold? Can Islam and Western values co-exist? If so HOW? It seems to me that it is hard not to imagine a future of more polarisation, entrenched views , parallel communities, hatred despite the best attempts for dialogue and more incidents like this. It always seems that the most innocent suffer the most. Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here.....
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 19:21:23 GMT
May be. Reasons for posting imbalance.... It may be because It is easier to identify the underlying unifying ideology and because there are other aspects of that ideology that question and challenge mainstream culture on other wider issues. May be because it easier to generalise and to see Islam as a threat to " western values' with for example reference to the ( misunderstood) reference to jihad.I don't know. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT it is ok to kill Muslims.Nothing can justify killing innocent people. In my opinion it is simply incredibly nonsensically to try to justify indiscrominate killing....it could be your son, mother etc. I would have thought that we can agree that this and similar incidents need to be condemned and potential perpetrators rooted out....to state the obvious. What does the future hold? Can Islam and Western values co-exist? If so HOW? It seems to me that it is hard not to imagine a future of more polarisation, entrenched views , parallel communities, hatred despite the best attempts for dialogue and more incidents like this. It always seems that the most innocent suffer the most. Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here..... Yep, and they've been accusing me of being the nasty one.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 20, 2020 19:21:34 GMT
May be. Reasons for posting imbalance.... It may be because It is easier to identify the underlying unifying ideology and because there are other aspects of that ideology that question and challenge mainstream culture on other wider issues. May be because it easier to generalise and to see Islam as a threat to " western values' with for example reference to the ( misunderstood) reference to jihad.I don't know. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT it is ok to kill Muslims.Nothing can justify killing innocent people. In my opinion it is simply incredibly nonsensically to try to justify indiscrominate killing....it could be your son, mother etc. I would have thought that we can agree that this and similar incidents need to be condemned and potential perpetrators rooted out....to state the obvious. What does the future hold? Can Islam and Western values co-exist? If so HOW? It seems to me that it is hard not to imagine a future of more polarisation, entrenched views , parallel communities, hatred despite the best attempts for dialogue and more incidents like this. It always seems that the most innocent suffer the most. Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here..... I think the logic is flawed too tbf. There's nothing that bjr raises in that post that can't be applied equally to far right extremism and Islamist extremism. They both have a unifying ideology, they both challenge mainstream culture, they're both a threat to Western values. So none of that explains the posting imbalance really.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 19:21:39 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points.
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Post by vokeswagen on Feb 20, 2020 19:26:23 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points. There's nothing you post here that can't be applied equally to any thread about Islamist terror attacks. That's the very point that's being made. And no one has hijacked messages of condolence. Just pointed out an inconsistency.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:28:06 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points. I’m on no ones side, I just speak as I find. I was simply stating the obvious. If you think the other thread was merely highlighting the tragedy of the victims and not about certain people venting their spleen you haven’t read it.....
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 19:32:12 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points. I’m on no ones side, I just speak as I find. I was simply stating the obvious. If you think the other thread was merely highlighting the tragedy of the victims and not about certain people venting their spleen you haven’t read it..... I'm not on about you duck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:35:42 GMT
I’m on no ones side, I just speak as I find. I was simply stating the obvious. If you think the other thread was merely highlighting the tragedy of the victims and not about certain people venting their spleen you haven’t read it..... I'm not on about you duck. Cool. My point still remains.....
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 19:40:25 GMT
I'm not on about you duck. Cool. My point still remains..... You might be right but look at the tone of the OP. Deliberately provocative a couple pointed out this and before you know it fingers are being pointed at posters when all that's been said was condolences and condemnation. So if your honest my point remains true also. If folk poke long enough they get the responce they want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 19:45:10 GMT
Cool. My point still remains..... You might be right but look at the tone of the OP. Deliberately provocative a couple pointed out this and before you know it fingers are being pointed at posters when all that's been said was condolences and condemnation. So if your honest my point remains true also. If folk poke long enough they get the responce they want. It was a clumsy way of highlighting the hypocrisy and faux outrage of some people on this board.....
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 19:51:47 GMT
You might be right but look at the tone of the OP. Deliberately provocative a couple pointed out this and before you know it fingers are being pointed at posters when all that's been said was condolences and condemnation. So if your honest my point remains true also. If folk poke long enough they get the responce they want. It was a clumsy way of highlighting the hypocrisy and faux outrage of some people on this board..... Again it works both ways but and I know you might say I'm bias but I thought it was genuine. It might not have been in the inflamatory language to be expected but the murder was roundly condemned by everyone.
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 20:07:58 GMT
You might be right but look at the tone of the OP. Deliberately provocative a couple pointed out this and before you know it fingers are being pointed at posters when all that's been said was condolences and condemnation. So if your honest my point remains true also. If folk poke long enough they get the responce they want. It was a clumsy way of highlighting the hypocrisy and faux outrage of some people on this board..... Clumsy... Or correct?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 20, 2020 20:22:49 GMT
May be. Reasons for posting imbalance.... It may be because It is easier to identify the underlying unifying ideology and because there are other aspects of that ideology that question and challenge mainstream culture on other wider issues. May be because it easier to generalise and to see Islam as a threat to " western values' with for example reference to the ( misunderstood) reference to jihad.I don't know. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT it is ok to kill Muslims.Nothing can justify killing innocent people. In my opinion it is simply incredibly nonsensically to try to justify indiscrominate killing....it could be your son, mother etc. I would have thought that we can agree that this and similar incidents need to be condemned and potential perpetrators rooted out....to state the obvious. What does the future hold? Can Islam and Western values co-exist? If so HOW? It seems to me that it is hard not to imagine a future of more polarisation, entrenched views , parallel communities, hatred despite the best attempts for dialogue and more incidents like this. It always seems that the most innocent suffer the most. Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here..... I wouldn't really want to get into that on a post that I consider is about innocent people being murdered. Perhaps we are all trying to come to terms with atrocities that none of us would actually carry out.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 20, 2020 20:23:58 GMT
I think its some misguided attempt at making a point that if it was a muslim terrorist there would already be a thread into many pages. A Murdering terrorist cunt is a murdering terrorist cunt to me regardless of whether they are far right or isis, he is dead murdering terrorist cunt now so good riddance. Correct, and there would be, which is precisely the point Bath was obviously making, which you've rather pathetically tried to downplay by calling it misguided, when it clearly isn't, given the nature of many of the posters on this board. By way of confirmation, I see you yourself rushed to start a thread about the MEN Arena bombings, but neglected to start a thread about this attack, nor the one in NZ which killed 51 muslims in a mosque in Christchurch. I wonder why? By which I mean it's blindingly obvious why... I don't suppose followyoudown will read this since he rather tragically blocked my posts some time ago - which does rather confirm Bath's point all over again - ie rush to highlight what suits your agenda, gloss over what doesn't!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 20:25:53 GMT
Christ, you're a cunt aren't you. Even where a Muslim is attacked you're trying to turn it round to be their fault. For shame. Think on it. A regular muslim worshipper attacked another muslim who do you want to blame ? Kitson?
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 20:33:24 GMT
I think its some misguided attempt at making a point that if it was a muslim terrorist there would already be a thread into many pages. A Murdering terrorist cunt is a murdering terrorist cunt to me regardless of whether they are far right or isis, he is dead murdering terrorist cunt now so good riddance. Correct, and there would be, which is precisely the point Bath was obviously making, which you've rather pathetically tried to downplay by calling it misguided, when it clearly isn't, given the nature of many of the posters on this board. By way of confirmation, I see you yourself rushed to start a thread about the MEN Arena bombings, but neglected to start a thread about this attack, nor the one in NZ which killed 51 muslims in a mosque in Christchurch. I wonder why? By which I mean it's blindingly obvious why... I don't suppose followyoudown will read this since he rather tragically blocked my posts some time ago - which does rather confirm Bath's point all over again - ie rush to highlight what suits your agenda, gloss over what doesn't! To be fair he did post at 9.12am not sure who's up on here at that time 🤷♂️ just a thought.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 20, 2020 20:33:29 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points. Who said anything about race...
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 20, 2020 20:34:37 GMT
Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here..... Yep, and they've been accusing me of being the nasty one. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 20, 2020 20:36:45 GMT
In a divided board one side has made it about race and it's not the ones who everyone's blaming. Genuinely posts of condolences and condemnation have been high jacked to make cheap points. Who said anything about race... I know your OP was totally unbiased and fair you even challenged folk to comment 🙄 Edit: xenophobia noun dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries. "the resurgence of racism and xenophobia" "Tobias" typical= race? You even though religion in to cover all bases 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 20:37:53 GMT
Or it maybe that posters such as crapslinger don’t froth at the mouth and send multiple hate filled messages about the “religion of peace?” You raise some fair points but you’re not daft John, let’s not beat around the bush here..... I wouldn't really want to get into that on a post that I consider is about innocent people being murdered. Perhaps we are all trying to come to terms with atrocities that none of us would actually carry out. Fair enough. I personally see no reason why this thread can’t be used both to condemn the atrocities whilst debating the wider issue(s)......
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Post by heyzeus on Feb 20, 2020 20:42:35 GMT
Yep, and they've been accusing me of being the nasty one. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
Wondered if you'd quit youth
Given any thought to answering my questions? Why not post the last PM I posted? Or does that have too many unfortunate truth's in there for your liking?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 20, 2020 20:42:36 GMT
Seems the right place to drop in some xenophobia... bloody Huguenots
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