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Post by misterj on Feb 19, 2020 16:49:07 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 19, 2020 17:06:35 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? Agreed - or it could have been held in the Easter School holidays if they wanted to use a weekday. But a Saturday would have been the best option. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 17:12:21 GMT
Didn't we play Everton in the final in '84 at the Vic ?
Lost 2 nil if I remember correctly.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 19, 2020 17:26:51 GMT
Didn't we play Everton in the final in '84 at the Vic ? Lost 2 nil if I remember correctly. Yeah lost 4-2 on aggregate. There was more at the Vic leg than there was at the Goodison leg. |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 19, 2020 17:44:30 GMT
Didn't we play Everton in the final in '84 at the Vic ? Lost 2 nil if I remember correctly. Yeah lost 4-2 on aggregate. There was more at the Vic leg than there was at the Goodison leg. Must have been bin day! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 19, 2020 17:45:09 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? Probably because it isn't a big deal. It certainly isn't the fa youth cup. It is the premier league cup so nothing to do with the FA. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 18:10:38 GMT
Didn't we play Everton in the final in '84 at the Vic ? Lost 2 nil if I remember correctly. Yeah lost 4-2 on aggregate. There was more at the Vic leg than there was at the Goodison leg. I was working in London at the time,came up for the match,was late getting back to work the next day,had a bust up with my boss and handed my notice in  |
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Post by thicknthin on Feb 19, 2020 19:10:43 GMT
Yes let’s play it on a Saturday, preferably 3.00
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Post by misterj on Feb 20, 2020 8:04:22 GMT
I think ANY Saturday would be reasonable, there must be ONE free between now and May, I’ve dropped a line to SCFC suggesting they object to the Tuesday date as our younger fans don’t get much to cheer about and this could be IT for the next couple of years?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 20, 2020 8:33:33 GMT
I think ANY Saturday would be reasonable, there must be ONE free between now and May, I’ve dropped a line to SCFC suggesting they object to the Tuesday date as our younger fans don’t get much to cheer about and this could be IT for the next couple of years? Good luck with that one. There will almost certainly be more Stoke fans in attendance than Man City for this game. FA Youth Cup games are played of an evening, including the final, so a PL u18 cup final is unlikely to be seen with any kind of prestige or kudos. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 20, 2020 9:04:12 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? Probably because it isn't a big deal. It certainly isn't the fa youth cup. It is the premier league cup so nothing to do with the FA. I suppose that, although the Premier League U18 cup has fewer teams entering than the FA Youth Cup, there won't be many easy games in the early rounds as all the teams will be from Category 1 Academies? And, unlike the League Cup for senior teams, I don't suppose there will be as much by way of the bigger clubs fielding teams in the early rounds composed largely of players who are normally bench warmers. So, to that extent, it is probably as big an achievement to reach the final. Nice for us to reach the semis of BOTH competitions within 3 years- something we haven't done at senior level since the early 70s! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 20, 2020 10:22:48 GMT
Probably because it isn't a big deal. It certainly isn't the fa youth cup. It is the premier league cup so nothing to do with the FA. I suppose that, although the Premier League U18 cup has fewer teams entering than the FA Youth Cup, there won't be many easy games in the early rounds as all the teams will be from Category 1 Academies? And, unlike the League Cup for senior teams, I don't suppose there will be as much by way of the bigger clubs fielding teams in the early rounds composed largely of players who are normally bench warmers. So, to that extent, it is probably as big an achievement to reach the final. Nice for us to reach the semis of BOTH competitions within 3 years- something we haven't done at senior level since the early 70s! It's great for the academy. Of that there is no doubt. However, chelsea didn't field their strongest u18 side on saturday and man city's team on final night will consist of predominantly u16's with 3 u17's. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 20, 2020 10:24:43 GMT
I think ANY Saturday would be reasonable, there must be ONE free between now and May, I’ve dropped a line to SCFC suggesting they object to the Tuesday date as our younger fans don’t get much to cheer about and this could be IT for the next couple of years? The only free Saturdays are during the international break when most if the players will be off playing for their countries young sides |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Feb 20, 2020 11:15:59 GMT
Will Man City stream the game on YouTube?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 11:31:49 GMT
It may be a big game for us, because we don't have much else to engage with, and because some of us actually believe in the kids, but it's not a big game on any other scale. For one thing, it's not the FA Youth Cup, but the League Cup, and it's just intended for run outs and competitive games for the relevant year groups. I doubt many Citizens will have registered that their team qualified for a final, and I doubt that more than 5-600 fans will turn up on the day. So there's no reason to blow on any trumpets or build anything around a primetime K.O., because it won't be showtime. It's really just another game, which in this case, is the final game in an unimportant competition. Still, for us it's not, so the kids would love it of course if there was substantial support for them.
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Post by Northy on Feb 20, 2020 14:07:15 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? and a Tuesday when I'm down in London as well |
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Post by misterj on Feb 20, 2020 16:43:57 GMT
Just had a generic e-mail reply from SCFC saying they’ll look into it .... I can cope with a midweek semi final followed by a Saturday final but the other way around just feels plain weird, this is the fans’ chance (on both teams) to get to know the players of tomorrow..... is that such a bad thing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 21:47:03 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? Could have swore was mid-week and mid 80s as Graham Shaw came on as a sub. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 20, 2020 22:01:01 GMT
Would have thought this game would be a huge opportunity to engage with the younger generation, particularly Stoke fans who’ve not had much to shout about for three years or so. On a school night I think this is a real ‘own goal’ by the FA, I seem to remember Stoke reaching the FA Youth Cup final in the 1970’s, it was a Saturday and the Victoria Ground was at least half full - anyone else think this game ought to be a Saturday? Could have swore was mid-week and mid 80s as Graham Shaw came on as a sub. The FA Youth Cup Final in 1984 between Stoke and Everton was 1st Leg Thursday 26th April 2nd Leg Tuesday 8th May Our team featured Steve Parkin, Chris Hemmings and Graham Shaw Lost 4-2 |
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Post by walton corner on Feb 20, 2020 22:07:36 GMT
Wakenshaw stayed in mind all my life so far
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 22:12:07 GMT
Could have swore was mid-week and mid 80s as Graham Shaw came on as a sub. The FA Youth Cup Final in 1984 between Stoke and Everton was 1st Leg Thursday 26th April 2nd Leg Tuesday 8th May Our team featured Steve Parkin, Chris Hemmings and Graham Shaw Lost 4-2 Knew it was, thanks. Think I went straight from school. Think we were 2 down in the first leg. Was a fairly decent crowd there and we played them off the park but got caught twice |
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Post by misterj on Feb 20, 2020 22:23:19 GMT
I stand corrected!! Was merely thinking about ‘next generation’ of fans, would have been nice for families etc Can’t understand why semi would be a Saturday and the final in midweek, that’s the point I’m trying to make?
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 20, 2020 22:31:27 GMT
I stand corrected!! Was merely thinking about ‘next generation’ of fans, would have been nice for families etc Can’t understand why semi would be a Saturday and the final in midweek, that’s the point I’m trying to make? I think it's a good point Nice opportunity to get kids involved, could have gone for a Sunday if it clashes with a Stoke game I suppose. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 22:39:08 GMT
I stand corrected!! Was merely thinking about ‘next generation’ of fans, would have been nice for families etc Can’t understand why semi would be a Saturday and the final in midweek, that’s the point I’m trying to make? Could be scheduling reasons we don't now of or a number of things. To be fair is not really something that would be associated with travelling support or attendances in any way, shape or form so perhaps you have to see it from that point of view. This isn't the same competition though is it? Isn't this the U18 PL Cup? |
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Post by misterj on Feb 21, 2020 14:38:07 GMT
Just had a reply from SCFC, dates were pre-arranged and the decision re: venue was verified in the presence of several witnesses.
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