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Post by chigstoke on Feb 19, 2020 11:09:42 GMT
For season card holders exclusively next month
Vent your spleen people.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 19, 2020 11:35:10 GMT
AUDIENCE MEMBER: 'Hi panel. Do you feel it is right that in the light of three and a half years of continual and near terminal decline that the Chief Executive gets a significant pay rise?'
COATES JR: 'Thanks for your question, unfortunately we do not comment on the remuneration of senior executives'
AUDIENCE MEMBER: 'I'm going home, this is a fucking sham'
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Post by Bullseye on Feb 19, 2020 11:39:18 GMT
Article doesn't say when tickets will be available.
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Post by nonameface on Feb 19, 2020 12:13:13 GMT
AUDIENCE MEMBER: 'Hi panel. Do you feel it is right that in the light of three and a half years of continual and near terminal decline that the Chief Executive gets a significant pay rise?' COATES JR: 'Thanks for your question, unfortunately we do not comment on the remuneration of senior executives' AUDIENCE MEMBER: 'I'm going home, this is a fucking sham' If everyone asks the same question until there's a proper response then at least the message will be well and truly heard.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 19, 2020 12:27:09 GMT
This should be fun MON will be off like a shot when he hears the village idiot Jon Coates try to explain how the club are heading in the right direction & the process is working.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 12:27:13 GMT
Hi Michael, have you tried an Oatcake yet?
Did you meet Jon's mate in the pub before joining?
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 19, 2020 12:48:59 GMT
Fair play to JC and TS for putting their faces in front of a crowd when they both share public enemy number one status!
Hopefully the forum can be co-ordinated in their questioning to weedle them out of their politician-like answers, but I can see this descending into chaos after 10 mins.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 19, 2020 12:58:30 GMT
300 tickets......Its a sell out
45 STH's turn up but Club announce a full house
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 19, 2020 13:47:51 GMT
Jesus, John's up again?? One to watch through the fingers I would think...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 19, 2020 14:09:21 GMT
Let's hope John Coates gives the San Miguel a miss this time.
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Post by ceejays on Feb 19, 2020 14:13:34 GMT
Mr Coates when are you going to park your car between the white lines provided ?
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Post by bertiebigguns on Feb 19, 2020 14:29:25 GMT
Hi John, is it just a coincidence that the systematic decline of our football club coincided with you project managing the design and build of your bespoke multi-million pound rural home?
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 19, 2020 14:36:18 GMT
Wonder if we'll be subjected to any more of John's rambling misty-eyed anecdotes from the 90s to prove he is a REEL STOKEE
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 19, 2020 14:38:46 GMT
Where do you start?
Scholes: How can you possibly have the brass neck to award yourself a huge pay rise when, as CEO, you have overseen four years of systematic and cataclysmic decline in the club's fortunes?
Coates: Do you think you should ever again be allowed to have a say in the appointment of a manager for Stoke City Football Cub after your abysmal record in recent years?
O'Neill: Do you really drink the whiskey, drink the Guinness and hate the Vale?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 19, 2020 15:09:34 GMT
"Michael, those other 2 really are fucking useless eh?"
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 19, 2020 15:10:56 GMT
Wonder if we'll be subjected to any more of John's rambling misty-eyed anecdotes from the 90s to prove he is a REEL STOKEE He can use any one of the dick-measuring threads on here for great source material.
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Post by neddy on Feb 19, 2020 15:51:29 GMT
Has anyone get anything positive to say about the evening? Just asking 🤦♂️🤪.
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Post by djduncanjames on Feb 19, 2020 16:09:59 GMT
Hi Michael, have you tried an Oatcake yet? Did you meet Jon's mate in the pub before joining?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 19, 2020 23:08:28 GMT
Where do you start? Scholes: How can you possibly have the brass neck to award yourself a huge pay rise when, as CEO, you have overseen four years of systematic and cataclysmic decline in the club's fortunes? Coates: Do you think you should ever again be allowed to have a say in the appointment of a manager for Stoke City Football Cub after your abysmal record in recent years? O'Neill: Do you really drink the whiskey, drink the Guinness and hate the Vale? Award himself, I haven't seen anywhere thats suggested he awarded it to himself.....
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 19, 2020 23:20:27 GMT
Hi John, is it just a coincidence that the systematic decline of our football club coincided with you project managing the design and build of your bespoke multi-million pound rural home? The thought of him managing the design and build of a bespoke multi million pound home is quite terrifying.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 19, 2020 23:28:20 GMT
John, I used to work for a family run business where they put the idiot son in charge but he was useless, true story. And to Michael, I ended up walking out after a few months. No question, just saying!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 19, 2020 23:31:04 GMT
Hi John, is it just a coincidence that the systematic decline of our football club coincided with you project managing the design and build of your bespoke multi-million pound rural home? The thought of him managing the design and build of a bespoke multi million pound home is quite terrifying. I When asked if he wanted it to be 'green' he said he didn't mind what colour it was!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Feb 19, 2020 23:47:31 GMT
Where do you start? Scholes: How can you possibly have the brass neck to award yourself a huge pay rise when, as CEO, you have overseen four years of systematic and cataclysmic decline in the club's fortunes? Coates: Do you think you should ever again be allowed to have a say in the appointment of a manager for Stoke City Football Cub after your abysmal record in recent years? O'Neill: Do you really drink the whiskey, drink the Guinness and hate the Vale? Award himself, I haven't seen anywhere thats suggested he awarded it to himself..... I think you can be quite certain that he didn't and couldn't award himself a pay rise. The Chair of the Supporters Council posted on here a while back that he only got the same cost of living rise as the rest of the staff, and the sum shown in the accounts related to a pension contribution. I don't fully understand that, and why it should show such a variance from the previous year, and of course it's still to his benefit, but it's unwise for anyone to go in all guns blazing without properly knowing and understanding exactly what the position is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 0:16:36 GMT
Award himself, I haven't seen anywhere thats suggested he awarded it to himself..... I think you can be quite certain that he didn't and couldn't award himself a pay rise. The Chair of the Supporters Council posted on here a while back that he only got the same cost of living rise as the rest of the staff, and the sum shown in the accounts related to a pension contribution. I don't fully understand that, and why it should show such a variance from the previous year, and of course it's still to his benefit, but it's unwise for anyone to go in all guns blazing without properly knowing and understanding exactly what the position is. That is the question that has not been answered. If an amount was paid into his pension fund, why wasn't it shown in the accounts under the heading "Pension". It was shown as a remuneration increase.
Maybe at this fans meeting, TS will come out, all guns blazing, and answer this anomaly.
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Post by Sfance on Feb 20, 2020 2:07:34 GMT
Award himself, I haven't seen anywhere thats suggested he awarded it to himself..... I think you can be quite certain that he didn't and couldn't award himself a pay rise. The Chair of the Supporters Council posted on here a while back that he only got the same cost of living rise as the rest of the staff, and the sum shown in the accounts related to a pension contribution. I don't fully understand that, and why it should show such a variance from the previous year, and of course it's still to his benefit, but it's unwise for anyone to go in all guns blazing without properly knowing and understanding exactly what the position is. Without having the time to go back and see exactly that that "cost of living" increase was, as I recall it was several bucketsful of extra pounds whatever you want to call it. Certainly a lot more than what the rest of the staff will have received, but however much it was and however it's explained away, surely the real question is why was it more than £0 and a better question yet, why was it not a huge pay cut?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 20, 2020 5:07:33 GMT
You can only hope results perk up between now and then or it could end up a car crash
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 20, 2020 5:16:41 GMT
Hi John, is it just a coincidence that the systematic decline of our football club coincided with you project managing the design and build of your bespoke multi-million pound rural home? That is a good question that I have wondered myself, did we take the eye off the ball well getting that project off the ground? I have worked on the place though and it's not just a house it is a huge estate, impressive. It will have taken some organising, it was taking between 2 and 3 years to complete with a lot of manpower. I'm sure though that they would have employed top experts to manage that, managing the organisation and size of that build is way out of an owners depth, infact it is impossible. They would have had a big input in deciding the land they wished to purchase, build features and important custom design details but most of if not all of that place will have been put to them in drawings for approval. Billionaires pay people to get the headache a design like that causes. In saying that, if that's how you manage a build that big of an estate then you should be hiring the very best upstairs to manage and direct a multi million pound football club, also. By not doing so it is being used as a rich mans toy/hobby
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Post by StaffordPotter on Feb 20, 2020 12:18:17 GMT
Got my ticket. I'll try and be calm and rational.
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Post by neddy on Feb 20, 2020 12:27:19 GMT
How much do they think the red button games at night are affecting attendances? Same for other clubs as well though.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 20, 2020 15:12:56 GMT
Award himself, I haven't seen anywhere thats suggested he awarded it to himself..... I think you can be quite certain that he didn't and couldn't award himself a pay rise. The Chair of the Supporters Council posted on here a while back that he only got the same cost of living rise as the rest of the staff, and the sum shown in the accounts related to a pension contribution. I don't fully understand that, and why it should show such a variance from the previous year, and of course it's still to his benefit, but it's unwise for anyone to go in all guns blazing without properly knowing and understanding exactly what the position is. Malcolm, as you know, I am a partner in a law firm and practise corporate law, so I know full well that he cannot award it to himself. In any board meeting setting his remuneration and benefits, he would have to leave the room and the matter be voted on by the other directors (if matters were dealt with properly). However, setting aside the curious case of the pension contribution which is marked as additional remuneration (why was it done like this and why was his, no doubt already substantial, pension even topped in this way at this time?), to say he got a cost of living rise like others is being rather disingenuous. 2 or 3% of close to a million pounds is a significantly higher amount than 2 or 3% of the 20 or 30 thousand pounds that may be paid to someone else at the club. As directors of our firm, we give cost of living, or slighter higher if we can, to our admin staff every year, but do not take the same ourselves. We recognise the disparity in our circumstances and that we are remunerated in a different way and at a different level, and that our rewards fluctuate with the fortunes of the business. It would be entirely in keeping with this approach for Tony Scholes to not accept such cost of living rise and, indeed, given the club's startling decline under his watch, to even take a pay cut (like other high earners, the players, did). When we had a new government in Bermuda a few years ago, and the economy was doing badly, they all turned in their government issue fancy cars and took a 10% pay cut - an action which was well received by the populace. Could you ever see any such exhibition of self-awareness coming from our erstwhile CEO? It all stinks of his total disregard for how he is perceived by the fans, his out of touch attitude (January was good month!) and his lack of any feeling of responsibility for the catastrophic management of the club as a whole (not just the team) during recent years whilst he has been CEO. To my mind, he should have have been sacked at least two years ago, but that is a different debate for another day.
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