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Pearson
Feb 12, 2020 23:51:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 23:51:11 GMT
Ran the game? They were wank, had 3 shots on target, the same possession as us and created fuck all. Please please tell me how he ran the game? By being able to defend and find team mates with passes. Something our two shysters in the middle can only dream of. Absolutely no fear of being on the ball and moving it around in deep areas drawing ours out and passing it forward. Right, so he ran the game how? By all means castigate Allen and Clucas but dont make things up in doing so
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Post by werrington on Feb 12, 2020 23:52:40 GMT
Ran the game and showed our midfield up for what they are. Without a shadow of a doubt he and brown were superb and bossed it They can play, knew the darker arts and reffed it also .....fair play to them for getting away with it I’d love those two in a Stoke shirt
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Pearson
Feb 12, 2020 23:58:53 GMT
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Post by proudstokie on Feb 12, 2020 23:58:53 GMT
He’d been carded by an atrocious ref so couldn’t really get involved in Pearson’s shithousery Pearson was also yellow carded and still bossed the game for the last half hour. Fair point and hard to argue. The early one for Allen probably set his tone. Him and Clucas should both do better though.
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Pearson
Feb 12, 2020 23:59:17 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 12, 2020 23:59:17 GMT
Wonder if January will haunt us. No signings of note, unable to sell and letting Hogan go.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 0:06:14 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 13, 2020 0:06:14 GMT
Disagree. Mixed it up, short safe passes, forward passes and not afraid to receive the ball and take the pressure off a team mate. The absolute difference from us tonight imo. Now you’re making him sound like Ryan Woods.When Allen is on song,and he really wasn’t tonight, he’s far better. Allen has never played for us like Pearson did tonight. He can’t do it.
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Post by datguy on Feb 13, 2020 0:12:13 GMT
Wonder if January will haunt us. No signings of note, unable to sell and letting Hogan go. He was, and is, shite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 0:13:58 GMT
The difference was their centre halves pure and simple. They won everything, whereas we failed to defend set pieces.
Pearson and Brown controlled the midfield once they scored their second goal, up until they took the lead they were second best.
Let’s not go overboard...
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Post by datguy on Feb 13, 2020 0:16:13 GMT
Preston were absolutely shite.
Their midfield did nowt of note bar a few decent passes here and there. Mastered the dark arts and got two scrappy goals from awful defensive mistakes at corners.
We were the better team until their first.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 0:17:08 GMT
The difference was their centre halves pure and simple. They won everything, whereas we failed to defend set pieces. Pearson and Brown controlled the midfield once they scored their second goal, up until they took the lead they were second best. Let’s not go overboard... Absolutely, weren't at it until then. They shut up shop and broke the game up after going ahead with their first meaningful chance.
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Post by datguy on Feb 13, 2020 0:17:10 GMT
Now you’re making him sound like Ryan Woods.When Allen is on song,and he really wasn’t tonight, he’s far better. Allen has never played for us like Pearson did tonight. He can’t do it. Joe Allen and Ben Pearson are completely different players.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 0:19:52 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 13, 2020 0:19:52 GMT
Ran the game and showed our midfield up for what they are. I think Pearson is a quality player at this level and I've wanted us to sign him for ages but he didn't run the game tonight Bayern I thought Johnson was their most dangerous player tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 0:21:28 GMT
Allen has never played for us like Pearson did tonight. He can’t do it. Joe Allen and Ben Pearson are completely different players. Agree, and I thought Allen played well until they scored. We conceded the first goal from a Chester mistake from absolutely nothing. At the time we’d had had 9 shots (4 on target) compared to Preston’s 1 shot (0 on target). They weren’t penetrating us at all. Very frustrating. So for 60 minutes to suggest Pearson ran a game we were dominating in terms of action in their final third is simply wrong.
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Feb 13, 2020 1:12:43 GMT
Love Jimmy Mac for going at the shithouse Pearson he would of been on the floor if he got to him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 3:25:34 GMT
Let's be honest if Pearson was that good he wouldn't be at Preston. Certainly a player at this level although not in it for an hour tonight but any Prem club could take him but haven't made the gamble. I think some are going on his reputation over performance
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 13, 2020 7:04:14 GMT
Let's be honest if Pearson was that good he wouldn't be at Preston. Certainly a player at this level although not in it for an hour tonight but any Prem club could take him but haven't made the gamble. I think some are going on his reputation over performance No prem team will take him because you can't get away doing that in the prem. Foul foul foul, kick and rush, foul. That's all you see in this league because the referees have no control. Any player with technical ability is kicked off the park. I know there is some admiration for Preston's performances generally, as a very limited workmanlike bunch of plodders showing up how garbage this league is, but it is really dispiriting watching the dross on offer in this league week in and week out, and depressing how when you have a good player, you know the ref will let the likes of preston foul him out, and ref the game. You need a team of dirty cheating cunts to do well in this league, football is secondary
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 7:59:58 GMT
Let's be honest if Pearson was that good he wouldn't be at Preston. Certainly a player at this level although not in it for an hour tonight but any Prem club could take him but haven't made the gamble. I think some are going on his reputation over performance No prem team will take him because you can't get away doing that in the prem. Foul foul foul, kick and rush, foul. That's all you see in this league because the referees have no control. Any player with technical ability is kicked off the park. I know there is some admiration for Preston's performances generally, as a very limited workmanlike bunch of plodders showing up how garbage this league is, but it is really dispiriting watching the dross on offer in this league week in and week out, and depressing how when you have a good player, you know the ref will let the likes of preston foul him out, and ref the game. You need a team of dirty cheating cunts to do well in this league, football is secondary He's a crap Harry Arter. I think you're a 100% right. No co-incidence that we bring a player on with pace to get at them and 15 mins later he's carried off.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 8:24:25 GMT
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Feb 13, 2020 8:24:25 GMT
He was fine I guess in terms of play, but an absolute master at shithousery, and the ref bought it hook line and sinker.
Should have walked as his foul on Allen was a clear yellow and I counted at least another two yellow card offenses.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 8:37:28 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 13, 2020 8:37:28 GMT
If he got a prem move he would disappear then reappear on loan to the championship a couple of seasons later
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Post by juiceandbits on Feb 13, 2020 8:48:52 GMT
Everything goes through him. In the first half they were poor as we were in control but in the second half he definitely became more influential and controlled the game. I thought we'd try to pressure him more ...
Regardless of what happens this season we won't be "challenging", as MON puts it, unless we have more quality in midfield outside of Nick Powell. When Clucas and Allen are poor they're very poor.
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Post by taxipete1 on Feb 13, 2020 9:57:42 GMT
North End fan here. No surprise to read the contrasting views on Pearson as it's pretty much the same from most other clubs fans. When he plays well hes one of the best midfielders in this league, probably the best in his holding position and he plays well most games. When he doesn't play so well like last night hes still half good and that's the point, hes very rarely poor. Problem is he missed 14 games through suspension last season plus rested him the last 3 as another booking would have seen him miss the start of this so that's 17, alot of the season in anyone's books. That's the reason hes still at Preston but he wont be next as hes improved his card count hugely. If Alex Neil had took the Stoke job I'm certain that Pearson would have been his first target, hes far better than Allen as has been shown every time they've played each other. As a poster said earlier hed be a fans hero here immediately because hes a talisman but also because hes very good at the dark arts which winds the opposition fans up immensely. He can be a right little bastard but hes our little bastard is about the best way to put it. Also the other Ben at centre half 'Davis' is set for big things. Dealt with everything last night comfortably as you might have noticed especially in the second half. All the best for the rest of the season.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 13, 2020 10:06:45 GMT
Good post. I agree about Ben Davis. We'll swap him for Batth if you play your cards right. For all of our flurry of missed chances, you were more composed on the ball and soaked up what we could. You were also niggly little gits and wound the clock down, but if that was us away from home I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 10:48:19 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Feb 13, 2020 10:48:19 GMT
Pearson is one of those players opposing fans hate but his fans love. But how we need a player like him in our midfield. Someone tough to win the battle. Thought Joe Allen was poor last night rarely won a 50/50 which instantly puts us on the back foot. We need far more strength in the central midfield if we're going to go for promotion next season. Having said that thought the whole midfield and forwards were poor last night. Corners poor, and free kicks poor, a just another inconsistent showing from Stoke.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 13, 2020 10:58:54 GMT
Pearson is one of those players opposing fans hate but his fans love. But how we need a player like him in our midfield. Someone tough to win the battle. Thought Joe Allen was poor last night rarely won a 50/50 which instantly puts us on the back foot. We need far more strength in the central midfield if we're going to go for promotion next season. Having said that thought the whole midfield and forwards were poor last night. Corners poor, and free kicks poor, a just another inconsistent showing from Stoke. How the hell are we going to get anywhere near promotion next season? The changes we'd need to make to our squad are monumental. Let's just stay up first, hey?
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 11:24:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 11:24:07 GMT
North End fan here. No surprise to read the contrasting views on Pearson as it's pretty much the same from most other clubs fans. When he plays well hes one of the best midfielders in this league, probably the best in his holding position and he plays well most games. When he doesn't play so well like last night hes still half good and that's the point, hes very rarely poor. Problem is he missed 14 games through suspension last season plus rested him the last 3 as another booking would have seen him miss the start of this so that's 17, alot of the season in anyone's books. That's the reason hes still at Preston but he wont be next as hes improved his card count hugely. If Alex Neil had took the Stoke job I'm certain that Pearson would have been his first target, hes far better than Allen as has been shown every time they've played each other. As a poster said earlier hed be a fans hero here immediately because hes a talisman but also because hes very good at the dark arts which winds the opposition fans up immensely. He can be a right little bastard but hes our little bastard is about the best way to put it. Also the other Ben at centre half 'Davis' is set for big things. Dealt with everything last night comfortably as you might have noticed especially in the second half. All the best for the rest of the season. Davies and Bauer were both excellent. Rowett was 100% after Bauer when he was at Charlton, he also wanted Chey Dunkley at Wigan I was told by one of the scouts at Wigan who were also watching Bauer at the time.....
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Post by adi on Feb 13, 2020 11:35:43 GMT
Ran the game? They were wank, had 3 shots on target, the same possession as us and created fuck all. Please please tell me how he ran the game? By being able to defend and find team mates with passes. Something our two shysters in the middle can only dream of. Absolutely no fear of being on the ball and moving it around in deep areas drawing ours out and passing it forward. Check the pass stats for all 3. Your bias is clouding your vision once again (not unpredictably). Completed 2 more passes than Clucas having attempted more so a worse pass %... also virtually identical to that of Allen’s.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 13, 2020 11:46:35 GMT
He was not the better player, nor did he 'run the show', their formation and tactics made it possible to use the extra man in the middle to thread passes between our midfield.
Albeit toothless, we were the better side for large parts of the game and as per usual, poor decison-making up front and at the back cost us. Carrying players like Ince doesn't help either. Then you also have the ref allowing cheats to prosper and it all makes for a bad night.
Its always a bit raw after a disappointing defeat but too many people on here want to stick the boot in just for the sake of it.
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 11:52:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 11:52:22 GMT
He was not the better player, nor did he 'run the show', their formation and tactics made it possible to use the extra man in the middle to thread passes between our midfield. Albeit toothless, we were the better side for large parts of the game and as per usual, poor decison-making up front and at the back cost us. Carrying players like Ince doesn't help either. Then you also have the ref allowing cheats to prosper and it all makes for a bad night. Its always a bit raw after a disappointing defeat but too many people on here want to stick the boot in just for the sake of it. After sleeping on it I thought we played well for 60 mins against a well organised team and could only see us conceding fro a mistake. As I said earlier at the point they scored we’d had 9 shots (4 on target) to their 1 (0 on target). O’Neill couldn’t have done much more although he got the Vokes sub wrong and should have brought Thompson on imo......
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Post by Northy on Feb 13, 2020 12:17:58 GMT
Wonder if January will haunt us. No signings of note, unable to sell and letting Hogan go. He was, and is, shite. he's scored 3 in 3 games for Birmingham, giving them 9 points out of 9, he's made a difference for them
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Pearson
Feb 13, 2020 12:23:18 GMT
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Post by adi on Feb 13, 2020 12:23:18 GMT
he's scored 3 in 3 games for Birmingham, giving them 9 points out of 9, he's made a difference for them Said this might be the case. Come to stoke and you’re almost guaranteed to play worse. It’s very strange
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 13, 2020 12:24:36 GMT
He was not the better player, nor did he 'run the show', their formation and tactics made it possible to use the extra man in the middle to thread passes between our midfield. Albeit toothless, we were the better side for large parts of the game and as per usual, poor decison-making up front and at the back cost us. Carrying players like Ince doesn't help either. Then you also have the ref allowing cheats to prosper and it all makes for a bad night. Its always a bit raw after a disappointing defeat but too many people on here want to stick the boot in just for the sake of it. Yep, that's pretty much how it was. I think it's possibly our most unjust defeat of the season, losing 2-0 is especially insulting. I think us being so incredibly on top and then conceding completely knocked the stuffing out of us. We were dominating them and I was surprised with how bad they were - I don't even think they defended that well in open play and we got in quite a few times behind them. Set pieces and our final ball were the killers for us. We could easily have been 2 or 3 up and cruising and in the blink of an eye, we managed to throw it away against a team who didn't really seem that at the races.
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