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Post by GoBoks on Feb 10, 2020 18:55:47 GMT
I was just thinking that this century seems an awful long time for only 4 wins, then I realised we are only 20 years into the century! It is a Monday morning I suppose. Errrr, 4 wins in 20% of a century against a "lesser" team ...... It really is EARLY on Monday morning if anyone considers that "not too bad"!
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Post by rawli on Feb 10, 2020 19:45:07 GMT
Or Verlinden Verlinden guarantees crosses MacLean does as well, just his quality varies enormously Ince, even at his very best isn't going to get crosses in. Obviously not going to be upset if he starts the same side but can see argument re being careful with Campbell Genuinely think we would have struggled yesterday with Vokes up front on his own. Make hay whilst the sun shines I say. Campbell suits his system miles more than any other forward we have. Would you play Tommy Smith?
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 10, 2020 20:17:08 GMT
Hopefully this is the game we can really push away from the bottom. Same side as saturday It is the acid test for me, to see how far we have come. Pound for pound they dont have the most talent in their squad(in this division) but for me they are one of the best TEAMS in the division. Quest were right on Saturday: I think Pearson is the best player of his type in this division, Johnson could possibly play in a division higher and Pulis was correct in saying they have more than those 2 players who could possibly hold their own in the prem. They attack with purpose and defend with purpose, they have played together for a while and are organised. They have a clever and experienced manager who will home in on our weaknesses, so expected our full-backs to be tested tomoz and every set piece to end up in the 6-yard-box for Butland to come and claim. They did us like a kipper at their place and tomorrow will be really interesting to see how we tackle them. For me, we will have to be right at the races in this one if we are going to pick up a result. Deffo has to pick his strongest side or he could make 3 or 4 changes and play some of his youngsters to confuse the hell out of the opposition, it could go well or we could end up forfeiting the game. I would be happy with a point tomoz and would take that now
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 10, 2020 20:19:59 GMT
I was just thinking that this century seems an awful long time for only 4 wins, then I realised we are only 20 years into the century! It is a Monday morning I suppose. Errrr, 4 wins in 20% of a century against a "lesser" team ...... It really is EARLY on Monday morning if anyone considers that "not too bad"! Where did I say it was "not too bad"? Its 10% of a century as well because we didn't play them at all for 10 years. You've failed miserably with your attempts at pedantry
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 10, 2020 20:50:28 GMT
Genuinely think we would have struggled yesterday with Vokes up front on his own. Make hay whilst the sun shines I say. Campbell suits his system miles more than any other forward we have. Would you play Tommy Smith? Probably. It doesn't count when he gets done at the back stick by all accounts so that's got to be a plus!
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 10, 2020 21:23:25 GMT
Errrr, 4 wins in 20% of a century against a "lesser" team ...... It really is EARLY on Monday morning if anyone considers that "not too bad"! Where did I say it was "not too bad"? Its 10% of a century as well because we didn't play them at all for 10 years. You've failed miserably with your attempts at pedantry To be a pedant ..... It was only one attempt!
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 10, 2020 21:30:46 GMT
Pathetic following for a team in the play offs and 5 unbeaten away🤔 That’s probably about right for a team with an average home gate of under 14,000.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Feb 10, 2020 21:30:48 GMT
So summing up the expert opinion on this thread We should: a) Start the same team; b} Start Vokes: c) Start Diouf; d) Start Gregory; e) Start Campbell out wide; f) Switch to 2 up front; g) Well, you get the picture. Thank heavens we have a professional at the helm who (hopefully) bases his decisions on more than whimsey. That's basically Nathan Jones' thought process before every game. Then come kick off we'd get some random combination of the crazy thoughts racing through his head.
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Post by hotpot on Feb 11, 2020 1:40:47 GMT
Get rid of Ince and Vokes and put Diouf and Verlinden in. And dump Clucas and McLean too and replace them with Thompson and the new boy Oakey. I want three points and not another shocker like the 4-0 Derby thrashing. And as for the very inconsistent and over-rated Butland .... I'd prefer to field Federici. We are still a powerful side and capable of stringing along 10 wins in a row. So don't fuck it all up again, like the demolition at Derby. No fucking excuses.
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Post by senojbor on Feb 11, 2020 2:13:13 GMT
Get rid of Ince and Vokes and put Diouf and Verlinden in. And dump Clucas and McLean too and replace them with Thompson and the new boy Oakey. I want three points and not another shocker like the 4-0 Derby thrashing. And as for the very inconsistent and over-rated Butland .... I'd prefer to field Federici. We are still a powerful side and capable of stringing along 10 wins in a row. So don't fuck it all up again, like the demolition at Derby. No fucking excuses. One thing you ought to learn about this league is that anyone can beat anyone on their day. We are not capable of winning 10 games on the trot,no team in this league is. But hey we are making progress and the real fear of relegation is fading. Your team selection is shite by the way.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 11, 2020 2:30:56 GMT
Yes he is. He's way better than Vokes and Gregory. I'm with Bayern on this. Diouf starts for me on Wednesday.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 5:37:27 GMT
Yes he is. He's way better than Vokes and Gregory. I'm with Bayern on this. Diouf starts for me on Wednesday. 1 goal in 36 games ! Bet Preston hope he starts as well
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Post by Goonie on Feb 11, 2020 6:59:39 GMT
Start Campbell at home, use him from the bench away if he needs a rest at the weekend. I don’t want to see Vokes plodding around on his own up front in a home game, Preston will take us apart if we don’t have any pace up front to stretch the game. Vokes is more use at home than away. Diouf should be starting on Wednesday as he’s the only one who comes close to what Campbell does. Campbell looked shattered after 50 minutes yesterday and that’s completely expected. He was rubbing the back of his right thigh a lot too. We need to protect him and use him wisely. For all his faults I still believe Diouf has been criminally underused for 2 seasons
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 7:40:45 GMT
What’s the weather like in Stoke? Any chance the game will be postponed?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 7:41:44 GMT
Yes he is. He's way better than Vokes and Gregory. I'm with Bayern on this. Diouf starts for me on Wednesday. Based on what?? He’s hardly kicked a ball and now you want him to START??
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 11, 2020 7:52:12 GMT
Vokes is more use at home than away. Diouf should be starting on Wednesday as he’s the only one who comes close to what Campbell does. Campbell looked shattered after 50 minutes yesterday and that’s completely expected. He was rubbing the back of his right thigh a lot too. We need to protect him and use him wisely. For all his faults I still believe Diouf has been criminally underused for 2 seasons He most definitely has. Some of the shit we’ve seen and he’s hardly been used. In his cameo earlier this season he won more headers than Vokes has done all season, scored a goal but then wasn’t seen again. I don’t get it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 7:57:15 GMT
What’s the weather like in Stoke? Any chance the game will be postponed? 10 foot of Snow, 15 by the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 7:57:43 GMT
For all his faults I still believe Diouf has been criminally underused for 2 seasons He most definitely has. Some of the shit we’ve seen and he’s hardly been used. In his cameo earlier this season he won more headers than Vokes has done all season, scored a goal but then wasn’t seen again. I don’t get it. Vokes has a goal every 4 games record this season....not that impressive but better than a goal ever 4 visits of Halley's Comet.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 11, 2020 8:09:18 GMT
Start Campbell at home, use him from the bench away if he needs a rest at the weekend. I don’t want to see Vokes plodding around on his own up front in a home game, Preston will take us apart if we don’t have any pace up front to stretch the game. Vokes is more use at home than away. Diouf should be starting on Wednesday as he’s the only one who comes close to what Campbell does. Campbell looked shattered after 50 minutes yesterday and that’s completely expected. He was rubbing the back of his right thigh a lot too. We need to protect him and use him wisely. Why do you think the last 3 managers have rarely even used him as a bit player though? O Neil at least mentioned him the other week though, why not try n'goy though?
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Post by Northy on Feb 11, 2020 8:10:31 GMT
he came on a few weeks ago for a cameo, scored the winner in the last minute (wigan?), didn't need 20 chances that day. Yep. You’re right. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. or some people don't want a fact to go against their opinion ?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 11, 2020 8:25:23 GMT
Get rid of Ince and Vokes and put Diouf and Verlinden in. And dump Clucas and McLean too and replace them with Thompson and the new boy Oakey. I want three points and not another shocker like the 4-0 Derby thrashing. And as for the very inconsistent and over-rated Butland .... I'd prefer to field Federici. We are still a powerful side and capable of stringing along 10 wins in a row. So don't fuck it all up again, like the demolition at Derby. No fucking excuses. So you'd change 5 players from a winning side and expect them to go on and win 10 in a row - which to my knowledge no team in the league has managed this season? Wow. Just wow.
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Post by tosh on Feb 11, 2020 8:32:11 GMT
He most definitely has. Some of the shit we’ve seen and he’s hardly been used. In his cameo earlier this season he won more headers than Vokes has done all season, scored a goal but then wasn’t seen again. I don’t get it. Vokes has a goal every 4 games record this season....not that impressive but better than a goal ever 4 visits of Halley's Comet. This season Diouf has one goal in 56 minutes on the pitch! Not enough time to prove too much, but this season he has some evidence that he is our most efficient scorer! (Stats prior to Charlton game - Ince McLean and Powell will have improved their numbers somewhat.) Diouf . 56 minutes per goal HOGAN 129 Campbell 135 Vokes. 332 Clucas. 367 McLean. 414 Powell. 717 Ince. 1816
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 8:39:33 GMT
Yep. You’re right. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day. or some people don't want a fact to go against their opinion ? Do you want to deal in facts? Do you want to see Diouf’s record over the last 3 years to back up your calls for him to play? He used to be good. And Vincent Pericard used to play for Juventus.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 11, 2020 8:43:43 GMT
He most definitely has. Some of the shit we’ve seen and he’s hardly been used. In his cameo earlier this season he won more headers than Vokes has done all season, scored a goal but then wasn’t seen again. I don’t get it. Vokes has a goal every 4 games record this season....not that impressive but better than a goal ever 4 visits of Halley's Comet. Three of Vokes goals were against under strength teams in The League Cup. He's one in six in the league.
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 11, 2020 8:50:32 GMT
Hotpot, let me know where you get your dodgy mushrooms from
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Post by stokecitytalke on Feb 11, 2020 8:56:07 GMT
Get rid of Ince and Vokes and put Diouf and Verlinden in. And dump Clucas and McLean too and replace them with Thompson and the new boy Oakey. I want three points and not another shocker like the 4-0 Derby thrashing. And as for the very inconsistent and over-rated Butland .... I'd prefer to field Federici. We are still a powerful side and capable of stringing along 10 wins in a row. So don't fuck it all up again, like the demolition at Derby. No fucking excuses. Hello Nathan
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Post by pb1863 on Feb 11, 2020 9:59:27 GMT
Watching Preston take apart Wigan easily I think we could be in trouble against them. They played some nice football turning there full backs inside out for the goals and are climbing the ladder at the right time.. I hope I’m wrong I really do.
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Post by apb1 on Feb 11, 2020 10:21:59 GMT
Watching Preston take apart Wigan easily I think we could be in trouble against them. They played some nice football turning there full backs inside out for the goals and are climbing the ladder at the right time.. I hope I’m wrong I really do. We could lose to them sure, but they only beat Wigan 2-1. Hardly taking them apart. Apart from a couple of spells, we played with a real intensity v Charlton, match that and we could beat Preston.
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Post by djralphy1984 on Feb 11, 2020 10:39:35 GMT
I would keep the same team as Sat as this is a winnable game at home.
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Post by Goonie on Feb 11, 2020 10:53:32 GMT
For all his faults I still believe Diouf has been criminally underused for 2 seasons He most definitely has. Some of the shit we’ve seen and he’s hardly been used. In his cameo earlier this season he won more headers than Vokes has done all season, scored a goal but then wasn’t seen again. I don’t get it. It truly is a mystery. At least publicly Diouf has never seemed to rock the boat either I think this is one for Arthur C. Clarke!
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