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Post by numpty40 on Feb 9, 2020 20:29:40 GMT
Can't fault McClean for effort and I don't dislike him but player of the year ?... really ? watch yesterdays game again. I believe Maclean has made the most crosses in the entire division, if and when he gets his head up and puts some in which actually beat the first defender or are within 5 yards of a red and white shirt then he will look a better player. Joe Allen is head and shoulders above everybody else under MON. Except in terms of height His crossing is absolutely abysmal. I appreciate his endeavour but as a footballer he really isn't very good.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Feb 9, 2020 20:50:35 GMT
Very close between Clucas and McClean so far
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 9, 2020 20:52:05 GMT
Can't fault McClean for effort and I don't dislike him but player of the year ?... really ? watch yesterdays game again. I believe Maclean has made the most crosses in the entire division, if and when he gets his head up and puts some in which actually beat the first defender or are within 5 yards of a red and white shirt then he will look a better player. Joe Allen is head and shoulders above everybody else under MON. Except in terms of height His crossing is absolutely abysmal. I appreciate his endeavour but as a footballer he really isn't very good. It’s erratic. It’s a million miles from abysmal. He’s a decent player with a phenomenal approach and incredible levels of commitment.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Feb 9, 2020 20:59:16 GMT
Nah.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 20:59:37 GMT
6 goals for the season. Only Clucas has more (7).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 21:01:04 GMT
Nobody has more assists this season in our squad than McClean.
If his delivery is abysmal, what does that say about the rest of the squad?
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 9, 2020 21:51:32 GMT
Nobody has more assists this season in our squad than McClean. If his delivery is abysmal, what does that say about the rest of the squad? As a regular starter he's got 3 assists from a left wing position and also takes a good number of dead ball situations. Like I said his delivery is abysmal. His attitude and endeavour is first class though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 22:03:09 GMT
Nobody has more assists this season in our squad than McClean. If his delivery is abysmal, what does that say about the rest of the squad? As a regular starter he's got 3 assists from a left wing position and also takes a good number of dead ball situations. Like I said his delivery is abysmal. His attitude and endeavour is first class though. Why hasn't anybody in the squad managed more assists?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 9, 2020 22:44:39 GMT
As a regular starter he's got 3 assists from a left wing position and also takes a good number of dead ball situations. Like I said his delivery is abysmal. His attitude and endeavour is first class though. Why hasn't anybody in the squad managed more assists? Because they don’t attempt 393929 crosses a game?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 23:02:51 GMT
Why hasn't anybody in the squad managed more assists? Because they don’t attempt 393929 crosses a game? Is that the only way you can get an assist?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 23:20:09 GMT
You're forgetting how many goals and points he cost us in the first third of the season, as he was out of his depth as a defender. Granted it was supremely poor management skills that placed him there, but he still showed serious deficits as a player. What? He was played out of position, a position he had never played in within a system that gave him no protection, left him vulnerable in every way and you choose to criticise him. On a far more positive note, he got his head down, worked hard and didn’t complain or moan & groan once as he was effectively hung out to dry. Since MON arrived JM restored to his natural position has been brilliant. Definitely player of the season for me. I didn't actually choose to criticise him, as you claim. In the context of the thread I pointed out the reason why he can't be player of the season at this point, when his performances at left back, despite running non stop, were inadequate. It's not impossible that when 46 games are played his name will come up again.
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Post by stokie223 on Feb 9, 2020 23:24:15 GMT
I think it's a tough ask to pick a 'player of the season' given that we're 20th in the league with our squad cost/value and our wage bill. Things seem to have turned a corner under O'Neill but it's still not really been a season to remember for the right reasons.
McClean has been much improved of late, but he's also had some absolute stinkers. I'd go with Clucas personally if I had to pick - although to say he's blown hot and cold would be something of an understatement.
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Post by thicknthin on Feb 9, 2020 23:34:40 GMT
Nobody has more assists this season in our squad than McClean. If his delivery is abysmal, what does that say about the rest of the squad? As a regular starter he's got 3 assists from a left wing position and also takes a good number of dead ball situations. Like I said his delivery is abysmal. His attitude and endeavour is first class though. It says a lot about the team, it’s a very poor stat, but it is exactly the reason we are a poor team at the lower end of the league Our regular starting wide forward has 3 assists (if the post above is accurate) despite apparently putting in the most crosses in the division, it’s just not very good is it? It’s an area we must improve on both sides of the field . If it is true, it clearly proves we need better.
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Post by NassauDave on Feb 10, 2020 1:37:17 GMT
Any player at the club should be hugely embarrassed to accept a player of the season award. We have been dreadful in all departments for most of the season. Two or three decent games by any individual doesn’t cut it. Save the budget for any proposed end of season awards affair and donate it to a worthy charity. Good shout, I'd just give all the end if season awards to MON plus as big a contract as we can afford to give him. As long as we improve and stay up though right????
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Post by scfcrmagic on Feb 10, 2020 2:34:39 GMT
Great to see the crowd showing a bit more appreciation now as well and even singing his name! totally agree, I think McClean has been brilliant, he works hard and gets plenty of crosses in, he’s not frightened to go at defenders and take’em on ..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 2:37:27 GMT
McClean or Clucas also. McClean slowly sneaking ahead of late.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 10, 2020 5:43:19 GMT
He must have put 20 crosses in today, none anywhere near a Stoke player. He should get player of the year. Player of the year for every team we play against! You beat me to it. Respect his effort, respect his commitment. If he was a kid or a free I would probably love him. Given the fee, the wage and the overall contribution. Nope not for me, move him on. I expect more. You certainly live up to the first part of your name! 🧐
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 10, 2020 5:46:40 GMT
Definitely McClean, which is both amazing and depressing at the same time.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 10, 2020 8:03:58 GMT
Joe Allen
If Powell keeps up his form he could take it.
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Post by musik on Feb 27, 2020 23:55:33 GMT
To me it's between Butland and Campbell.
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Post by adi on Feb 28, 2020 0:18:53 GMT
Because they don’t attempt 393929 crosses a game? Is that the only way you can get an assist? No, apparently it’s off one ball..... Some people are just silly and suggest silly numbers because they can’t give a rational argument. I agree with you by the way I was just taking the piss out of silly people 😂
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Post by adi on Feb 28, 2020 0:20:09 GMT
Joe Allen If Powell keeps up his form he could take it. Both have been very good. I honestly think judge them since O’Neill took over. I know they should play well regardless but this lot are mercenary to the end
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 28, 2020 0:22:04 GMT
There actually isn't a candidate. Not one worthy of the name, player of the season.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 28, 2020 0:42:57 GMT
That Tom Ince is an absolute baller...hands down winner for me😉
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Post by datguy on Feb 28, 2020 0:51:35 GMT
Sam Clucas all day long.
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Post by datguy on Feb 28, 2020 0:52:14 GMT
People saying Joe Allen - sort yourselves out.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 28, 2020 1:00:36 GMT
Not one player has done anywhere near enough to deserve such an award.
No player has been consistent and all, without exception, have contributed towards our relegation struggle.
Award should be given to charity.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 28, 2020 4:05:23 GMT
Give it to Campbell. Young lad, bit of a breakthrough season, repaying some faith after looking like leaving, all in spite of having an absolute throbber for a father determined to hijack everything. Would do his confidence no harm at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 4:53:53 GMT
Not one player has done anywhere near enough to deserve such an award. No player has been consistent and all, without exception, have contributed towards our relegation struggle. Award should be given to charity. I see your point re no player been outstanding but you can't really give a trophy to charity. The performances under MON deserve some credit, it is play off form to be fair compared to the rest of the league and whilst the same players got us in the mess they are hopefully getting us out of it. Playing bizarre formations didn't help ad there's the hope we can carry this into next season with a few tweaks in the Summer. We sat bottom about 4-45pm on Boxing Day until that turn around v Sheff Wed and now 2 months later are ahead of teams we looked like we had no chance of catching. Not over yet of course but and looking forward to this being over and a whole season under MON.
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Post by Veritas on Feb 28, 2020 18:55:16 GMT
I agree with you and given that the award should be given to the person having the greatest impact on the pitch logic suggests player of the year should be MON!
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