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Post by TinkerT on Feb 23, 2020 8:33:01 GMT
Just watching MOTD,Burnley V Bournemouth VAR decisions just awful.The rules 100% need to change after this season or football is going to kill itself.Obviously Liverpool are going to be Champions for the 1st time in a long time but this season is going to be remembered as the season VAR ruined football. The spurs player was the best. STILL not sent off after VAR and blaming it on "human error" what a load of shit. The foul went on right infront of the 4th official too, what the fucks he doing? Its a absolute farce and the only reason why I'm glad we're still not mixing it with the big boys.
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Post by chad on Feb 23, 2020 8:40:53 GMT
Can’t imagine what would have happened if VAR had been in that first season in the Premier and we’d had a bad decision at the Brit
I’d predict a riot !!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 8:47:01 GMT
It needs scrapping at the end of the season.
It's been trialled and it doesn't work. Fuck it off.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 23, 2020 8:48:05 GMT
Just watching MOTD,Burnley V Bournemouth VAR decisions just awful.The rules 100% need to change after this season or football is going to kill itself.Obviously Liverpool are going to be Champions for the 1st time in a long time but this season is going to be remembered as the season VAR ruined football. im no fan of Eddie Howe but that has to be the most ridiculous decisions of all time. They chalk off a perfectly good goal for Bournemouth, but worse still later in the game chalk off one from Harry Wilson then go back to earlier in the play and award Burnley a penalty which was tough on Bournemouth, then he sends off a Bournemouth coach I have to say it’s very unfair
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 9:11:34 GMT
Clear and obvious error is the criteria,no way could anyone say the 'handball' before Bournemouth's goal was clear and obvious. It's not VAR that's wrong,it's the implementation that's wrong
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Post by adi on Feb 23, 2020 10:33:27 GMT
Just watching MOTD,Burnley V Bournemouth VAR decisions just awful.The rules 100% need to change after this season or football is going to kill itself.Obviously Liverpool are going to be Champions for the 1st time in a long time but this season is going to be remembered as the season VAR ruined football. im no fan of Eddie Howe but that has to be the most ridiculous decisions of all time. They chalk off a perfectly good goal for Bournemouth, but worse still later in the game chalk off one from Harry Wilson then go back to earlier in the play and award Burnley a penalty which was tough on Bournemouth, then he sends off a Bournemouth coach I have to say it’s very unfair Karma for Bournemouth?
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Post by CampbxllEra on Feb 23, 2020 17:31:45 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 23, 2020 20:10:00 GMT
It needs scrapping at the end of the season. It's been trialled and it doesn't work. Fuck it off. The problem with 'fucking it off" is the genie is out of the bottle. If it's scrapped I'd give it two games next season before someone is moaning about a decision that went against them that would have been 'clear as day' with VAR.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 23, 2020 20:24:52 GMT
For any decision that is not "factual" then the referee on the pitch should have the final say (via the pitch side monitor). That way at least there would be just the one referee making judgment decisions on a game, which should (in theory) mean that the referee on the pitch can apply the Laws in exactly the same way to all decisions in that game. Or if you are feeling cynical, your team will only get screwed over by one dodgy referee rather than two.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 21:46:54 GMT
It needs scrapping at the end of the season. It's been trialled and it doesn't work. Fuck it off. The problem with 'fucking it off" is the genie is out of the bottle. If it's scrapped I'd give it two games next season before someone is moaning about a decision that went against them that would have been 'clear as day' with VAR. I don't see any issue with scrapping it at all. It doesn't work, and what is the point of sending a decision to a van parked up miles away when that decision is still down to how someone interprets it. It's solving nothing and causing even more controversy than we previously had in the game. It's a joke.
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 23, 2020 21:51:44 GMT
It's not working because the fuckwits are not using it right. VAR is for clear and obvious errors not forensic analysis and until the idiots understand that its doomed. Its not to overrule every decision even if it's close, clear and obvious. If its offside but close then it's not clear or obvious so it stands.
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Post by BuzzB on Feb 23, 2020 23:15:09 GMT
Currently the bods at Stockley Park are actually reffing the game, that is not what VAR is for. If Michael Oliver had gone across to look at the screen after that tackle at Chelsea then I have no doubt he would have given the red card. To then come out and decide they got it wrong is even more laughable. In the two minutes it took to make that decision we as tv viewers must have seen it 12 times from 6 angles needing only one or two looks to make the obvious red card decision. Its bollocks and needs severe fine tuning.
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Post by Gods on Feb 23, 2020 23:25:39 GMT
Don't think you can wind it back, if you tried there would be a clarion call for it's return, the knee jerk reaction to reach for VAR at moments of doubt is already deep in too many peoples psyche.
The thing is in 'big' games the jury is a TV audience not the folks at the ground and the officials have to have at least the same chance to see stuff as the majority audience does.
I hate it by the way.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 23, 2020 23:26:08 GMT
Clear and obvious error is the criteria,no way could anyone say the 'handball' before Bournemouth's goal was clear and obvious. It's not VAR that's wrong,it's the implementation that's wrong The technology and the rules are not congruent. And that before considering the fan experience.
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Post by march4 on Feb 23, 2020 23:49:09 GMT
I’m in favour of the cricket system with each team being given a fixed number of reviews.
If your review is proven they you keep the review. If it is unproven then the review is lost.
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 1, 2020 17:04:55 GMT
Well, that was a clear and obvious error of not being a corner in the cup final. How can it be used to microscopically analyse off-sides and handballs but not review a corner that never was but dad to a direct header on goal and goal scored - as we already know its complete boolocks
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Post by Cast no shadow on Mar 1, 2020 17:06:27 GMT
Well, that was a clear and obvious error of not being a corner in the cup final. How can it be used to microscopically analyse off-sides and handballs but not review a corner that never was but dad to a direct header on goal and goal scored - as we already know its complete boolocks The liner should've seen it
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Post by liathroid on Mar 1, 2020 18:26:45 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2020 18:58:39 GMT
That’s soft. I mean De Gea is stranded by the initial deflection and there’s no way he gets it. But I’d be screaming blue murder if that was defensively there for it to be disallowed. But I’m not sure it should.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 19:29:24 GMT
That’s soft. I mean De Gea is stranded by the initial deflection and there’s no way he gets it. But I’d be screaming blue murder if that was defensively there for it to be disallowed. But I’m not sure it should. Agreed 100%. I understand the rule and have no problem with it at all, but there is no way that Sigurdsson had any impact on De Gea's chances of saving that ball. Why can't the so called professionals who are making these decisions see this?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2020 19:31:51 GMT
That’s soft. I mean De Gea is stranded by the initial deflection and there’s no way he gets it. But I’d be screaming blue murder if that was defensively there for it to be disallowed. But I’m not sure it should. Agreed 100%. I understand the rule and have no problem with it at all, but there is no way that Sigurdsson had any impact on De Gea's chances of saving that ball. Why can't the so called professionals who are making these decisions see this? Yeah it’s one you’d be shouting for because you might get away with it but it shouldn’t be given. De Gea is planted and that should be enough imo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 20:40:09 GMT
Correct decision. Clearly blocking De Geas site
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Post by liathroid on Mar 1, 2020 21:13:04 GMT
Correct decision. Clearly blocking De Geas site no it didnt ,DeGea was going the right way until muttonhead deflected it
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 1, 2020 21:38:28 GMT
Correct decision. Clearly blocking De Geas site Explain how a bloke on the floor is blocking the sight of a standing de gea?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 21:42:23 GMT
Correct decision. Clearly blocking De Geas site Nah, not having that. Sigurdsson was sitting down, De Gea was completley wrong footed and was rooted to the spot. He was getting nowhere near it regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 21:44:34 GMT
He’s on the floor in front of the keeper clearly distracting him. Keeper doesn’t know if he is going stick a leg out or not. It’s offside simple as that for obstructing the keeper and evidently interfering with play.
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Post by liathroid on Mar 1, 2020 21:56:18 GMT
He’s on the floor in front of the keeper clearly distracting him. Keeper doesn’t know if he is going stick a leg out or not. It’s offside simple as that for obstructing the keeper and evidently interfering with play.
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Post by rawli on Mar 1, 2020 22:02:30 GMT
I honestly think the reason it wasn't given was because it was against Man Utd.
Commercially it's better for the league that Man Utd finish high up to keep their global fanbase happy and ensure they continue subscribing. Referees know better than to rock the boat.
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Post by rawli on Mar 1, 2020 22:03:51 GMT
He’s on the floor in front of the keeper clearly distracting him. Keeper doesn’t know if he is going stick a leg out or not. It’s offside simple as that for obstructing the keeper and evidently interfering with play. It didn't interfere with his ability to go to the right before the deflection.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2020 22:04:17 GMT
Correct decision. Clearly blocking De Geas site No it doesn’t. De Gea reacts completely the way you’d expect him to in that situation. Sigurdsson affects nothing.
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