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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 18:55:37 GMT
Absolutely non plussed by the negative opinions of Powell on this thread. How anyone can watch how he's played since Xmas and not be impressed is beyond me. It's the same shit we had to read and listen to when Arnautovic was here. "Lazy" "Show pony" "Defensively weak" It was utter horses piss then and it is now. There are a core group of Stoke fans that can't accept players that are a bit quirky and different. Powell is big, strong, mobile, works harder than it looks, can play, is good in the air and can score goals. What's not to like?
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 8, 2020 18:56:02 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 8, 2020 18:56:28 GMT
Absolutely non plussed by the negative opinions of Powell on this thread. How anyone can watch how he's played since Xmas and not be impressed is beyond me. He's a quality footballer. Keep him fit and he's easily one of the best players in the league.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 18:58:47 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance. Powell wasn’t in the team during that terrible run though. Him being in it now is literally one thing that has ‘changed’. And results and performances have improved. Since New Year’s Day he has made some sort of telling contribution to every game we’ve won.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 8, 2020 18:59:55 GMT
Ah the classic ‘lazy, not arsed’ retort used by people with no football brain to describe players with a bit of composure on the ball 🙄
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 8, 2020 19:01:44 GMT
Ah the classic ‘lazy, not arsed’ retort used by people with no football brain to describe players with a bit of composure on the ball 🙄 I rated Nzonzi
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 8, 2020 19:03:09 GMT
The people slagging him off are probably the same people who still cry themselves to sleep that Bojan isn't here anymore. Not linked though, of course.
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Post by RF10 on Feb 8, 2020 19:03:20 GMT
He's class. He played a brilliant ball through in first half which almost opened up play, no one really applauded but fantastic vision. He works bloody hard aswell.
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 8, 2020 19:03:53 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance. Powell wasn’t in the team during that terrible run though. Him being in it now is literally one thing that has ‘changed’. And results and performances have improved. Since New Year’s Day he has made some sort of telling contribution to every game we’ve won. He wasnt, you are correct, but am I wrong in saying that the midfield really have to work over time to compensate for Powell? like i said he offers the odd moment of genious that you look and think fuck me, but he is so slow on the ball and gets knocked off the ball a hell of a lot. I maintain we could get better for the money.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 19:07:07 GMT
Powell wasn’t in the team during that terrible run though. Him being in it now is literally one thing that has ‘changed’. And results and performances have improved. Since New Year’s Day he has made some sort of telling contribution to every game we’ve won. He wasnt, you are correct, but am I wrong in saying that the midfield really have to work over time to compensate for Powell? like i said he offers the odd moment of genious that you look and think fuck me, but he is so slow on the ball and gets knocked off the ball a hell of a lot. I maintain we could get better for the money. Yeah? Like who, realistically? He’s a number 10. Of course the other midfielders work hard to create the platform for him to do his thing. That’s how we set up. That’s what number 10s do. If you want a terrier scrapping round in midfield let’s get Cousins in there instead, but we won’t be creating anything like as much. He offers more than ‘the odd moment’ but even that is more than we have otherwise. Take him out of the team and we’re far worse.
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Post by rawli on Feb 8, 2020 19:08:34 GMT
The people slagging him off are probably the same people who still cry themselves to sleep that Bojan isn't here anymore. Not linked though, of course. I'd have thought they were the same people who slagged Bojan, Nzonzi and even Bjarni off. Unless players run round demented and put someone in the paddock they are treated with suspicion by many.
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Post by rawli on Feb 8, 2020 19:10:26 GMT
Arguably the most technically gifted footballer on our books. Our best form in years has been with him at no 10. Clever player and, despite what the idiot who sits behind me thinks, is not a lazy player. Yes he can drift in and out a game but so can others in his position. Long may his form continue! Wouldn't say arguably.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 8, 2020 19:12:45 GMT
The people slagging him off are probably the same people who still cry themselves to sleep that Bojan isn't here anymore. Not linked though, of course. I think the opposite to be honest, if you love football you love any player who can do things journeymen footballers can't do. I personally think Powell is a poor man's Bojan but he is streaks ahead ability wise than anyone else at the club. I loved watching Bojan, I love watching Powell. I'm not bothered if I never watch McClean again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 19:12:56 GMT
Easily one of the best players in this league.
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Post by rawli on Feb 8, 2020 19:14:52 GMT
Most chances created for us today - Powell Most attacking aerial duels won today - Powell Most attacking third passes today - Powell He was dispossessed once today, I appreciate you might not think he’s the best player ever but it just seems a very odd thing to say when he practically ran the game today and has been pretty brilliant since O’Neill has come in and he’s started playing regularly. Our form puts us in a playoff place since he came and Powell has been behind so much of it. he was but on Monday against Derby he was almost anonymous. Im not a fan and i think that for the 40k wages he is on we can do better, much better. Is £40k a week fact? Or just some shite thrown around by chimps who've lost the argument?
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 8, 2020 19:21:29 GMT
he was but on Monday against Derby he was almost anonymous. Im not a fan and i think that for the 40k wages he is on we can do better, much better. Is £40k a week fact? Or just some shite thrown around by chimps who've lost the argument? Granted I have no hard facts it's what I was told on here, its seems I have lost the argument on here and I am big enough to say. Let's hope for a brighter future for scfc.
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Post by dioufsboots on Feb 8, 2020 19:21:30 GMT
An average player for me, and as a relegation team is someone we hope does good. Beyond that he is and always will be short of what we need. Im not over enthused by him and one i wouldnt lose sleep over if we got rid in the summer. Far too slow, light weight and gernerally looks better than he is as we dont have a creative midfielder. He is fucking slow. Utter bollocks. Lightweight? Really? Far from lightweight think he as probably shocked us all with how much he is willing put himself about, better work rate than i expected as well always been class love how he just dont really give a shit for the opposition not afraid to wind anybody up the kind of player that makes heads go like said by a few on here one of the most talented players in the whole division
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 8, 2020 19:28:53 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance. I actually think it's really clear that stoke have gone from a rock bottom team, to a team in play off form, because A. We have a settled team 2. Powell and Campbell have become regular starters. Powell and Campbell are our two creative players, both of whom are premier league level players in my view. If you think powell is lightweight or slow you just aren't paying attention
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 8, 2020 19:37:13 GMT
Quality player and streets ahead of anyone else in our squad for creativity. He also means we can play Campbell as Powell is able to contribute in the air if we have to go long. He missed half a season and is getting into his stride. No coincidence we have played our best football since he became a regular
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 8, 2020 19:44:33 GMT
He challenged for 11 headers today and won 15 of them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 8, 2020 19:52:04 GMT
The free kick for the first goal looked absolutely awful until he popped up and did that beaut of a header back across.
He’s a breath of fresh air in this side. Quality footballer, good in the air and a cracking finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 19:53:02 GMT
Most chances created for us today - Powell Most attacking aerial duels won today - Powell Most attacking third passes today - Powell He was dispossessed once today, I appreciate you might not think he’s the best player ever but it just seems a very odd thing to say when he practically ran the game today and has been pretty brilliant since O’Neill has come in and he’s started playing regularly. Our form puts us in a playoff place since he came and Powell has been behind so much of it. he was but on Monday against Derby he was almost anonymous. Im not a fan and i think that for the 40k wages he is on we can do better, much better. No wonder you're so mad on Nick. You've conned yourself into believing he's actually earning double the wages that he's really on, which is 20k.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 20:00:25 GMT
I know I am getting grief here tonight for not rating Powell, and I am honestly gald others see different, but for me he isnt all that! I dont rate him, he looks slow on the ball, his off the ball pay is weak as piss and the occasional flash of brilliance isnt worth him being in the team for me. He looks like a shinny light in a basically shit team, we are and have been less than the sum of all parts all season. On paper we should be running for the play offs, in november even Smudge said they were a buch of dislikable cunts. Nothing has changed apart from a manager that has a plan, and a cor bunch of players that are working for him. Powell is not and never will be a top half of the championship typre of player, he is just a shining light in a sea of medioca dross. Is he the worst player at Stoke City? no, is he a good player? debatable. Is he someone that will ease our transition from championship strugglers, to promotion contenders....not a fucking chance. I actually think it's really clear that stoke have gone from a rock bottom team, to a team in play off form, because A. We have a settled team 2. Powell and Campbell have become regular starters. C. Clucas and Allen have been given clearly defined roles, unlike before where they were all over the place. Part of their defined job is to provide the ball to Powell, when he doesn't go deep and collect the ball himself.
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 8, 2020 20:05:15 GMT
Was superb today - very few if any other players in the Championship have his ability to consistently find time and space.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 8, 2020 20:23:06 GMT
Powell wasn’t in the team during that terrible run though. Him being in it now is literally one thing that has ‘changed’. And results and performances have improved. Since New Year’s Day he has made some sort of telling contribution to every game we’ve won. He wasnt, you are correct, but am I wrong in saying that the midfield really have to work over time to compensate for Powell? like i said he offers the odd moment of genious that you look and think fuck me, but he is so slow on the ball and gets knocked off the ball a hell of a lot. I maintain we could get better for the money. I haven’t seen him knocked off the ball easily too often, the opposite in fact he can be a tenacious little fucker
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 8, 2020 20:54:46 GMT
He is a class act there's no doubt about it. Bizarre that he has his critics. His goal was a perfect example of how good he is, anticipated a second faster than two defenders around him to nip in between them and bury the chance.
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Post by adi on Feb 8, 2020 20:56:16 GMT
Absolutely non plussed by the negative opinions of Powell on this thread. How anyone can watch how he's played since Xmas and not be impressed is beyond me. It's the same shit we had to read and listen to when Arnautovic was here. "Lazy" "Show pony" "Defensively weak" It was utter horses piss then and it is now. There are a core group of Stoke fans that can't accept players that are a bit quirky and different. Powell is big, strong, mobile, works harder than it looks, can play, is good in the air and can score goals. What's not to like? What’s not to like is that it doesn’t fit some people’s narrow minded agendas
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Post by puddledpotter on Feb 8, 2020 21:14:37 GMT
For me Powell is the stand out player in our squad in terms of footballing ability and intelligence. He does not do sub 10 second 100 metre sprints but he doesn't need to, he is rarely stationary either moving with the ball or moving into space providing options for players in possession. He rarely seems rushed on the ball which has long been accepted as the sign of a good player, yes he has said some unwise things in the past and being an ex Man Utd player is not seen as a plus point but I am struggling to get my head around the negativity towards him.
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Post by datguy on Feb 8, 2020 21:17:16 GMT
The people slagging him off are probably the same people who still cry themselves to sleep that Bojan isn't here anymore. Not linked though, of course. Honestly, I don't think it is linked. Think most of Powell's supporters were staunch supporters of Bojan. Think it's more people would rather a Joe Allen headless chicken type as the main creative outlet.
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Post by datguy on Feb 8, 2020 21:19:36 GMT
Once again - superb.
There was talk of moving him on in January prior to the Huddersfield away game. He's now one of the first names on the team sheet for me.
He's done very well under MO'N. Will be a big player for us next season.
He's just as good at what he does off the ball as he is on it. Space maker.
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