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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 1, 2020 10:32:30 GMT
Joe Allen was too scared to get near him. It was massively frustrating last night that Rooney was allowed to run the show and maybe mon should have put a man marker on him but I suppose we haven’t got anybody in the squad to do that. We haven’t got any get in your face tacklers there just can’t be arsed wimps Man mark Rooney should have been the main tactic tbh. Why can’t international “too good for Stoke”, great energy, desire and tackling skills Joe Allen do it? More to the point, why can’t he control a game from deep like Rooney did if he’s good? Fair point Bayern but tbh I really don’t rate joe Allen in every way. He should have been ashamed of himself the way he stood off Rooney. Allen does a tackle now and again and let’s be honest when he does he miss times it and ends up in the book. If Allen or any of his fans think he’s prem class well Rooney could still play for Barca he’s miles ahead of him. Allen not got the intelligence of Rooney that’s why he could control a game. Fair play to derby for attracting Rooney but I would say why couldn’t we have been in for him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2020 10:48:03 GMT
Man mark Rooney should have been the main tactic tbh. Why can’t international “too good for Stoke”, great energy, desire and tackling skills Joe Allen do it? More to the point, why can’t he control a game from deep like Rooney did if he’s good? Fair point Bayern but tbh I really don’t rate joe Allen in every way. He should have been ashamed of himself the way he stood off Rooney. Allen does a tackle now and again and let’s be honest when he does he miss times it and ends up in the book. If Allen or any of his fans think he’s prem class well Rooney could still play for Barca he’s miles ahead of him. Allen not got the intelligence of Rooney that’s why he could control a game. Fair play to derby for attracting Rooney but I would say why couldn’t we have been in for him. I agree but as you say people think he’s so wonderful. He should be able to control a game in the Championship if he was as good as is made out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 10:49:11 GMT
Fair point Bayern but tbh I really don’t rate joe Allen in every way. He should have been ashamed of himself the way he stood off Rooney. Allen does a tackle now and again and let’s be honest when he does he miss times it and ends up in the book. If Allen or any of his fans think he’s prem class well Rooney could still play for Barca he’s miles ahead of him. Allen not got the intelligence of Rooney that’s why he could control a game. Fair play to derby for attracting Rooney but I would say why couldn’t we have been in for him. I agree but as you say people think he’s so wonderful. He should be able to control a game in the Championship if he was as good as is made out. He’s been a big part of our decline, he’s simply just an average player.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 1, 2020 11:07:09 GMT
Looked slow and disinterested yesterday right from the off and it set the tone for a lacklustre team performance. Just look at how unresponsive he was when set free early on through a defensive error.
Compare last night to the West Brom game where we, and Powell in particular, showed urgency right from kick off.
Also, Campbell suits his game perfectly and is a big loss at the moment.
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 1, 2020 12:06:07 GMT
Powell played last night as though it was an exhibition match.
The type of player who likes lording it over the opposition when we're well on top, but not the player for a battle.
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Post by The man from Utch on Feb 1, 2020 12:08:17 GMT
Not on last nights performance. Way to casual on the ball. Less of the fancy stuff and work on his distribution then maybe.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 1, 2020 12:10:51 GMT
So far I think he has too little impact in too many games, but still early days for him as a Stoke player.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 6, 2020 9:47:21 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 6, 2020 9:53:01 GMT
He's been decent in the main, derby aside, and there is still much more to come from him I reckon.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 6, 2020 10:00:25 GMT
Powelll's not the problem, most of the rest are.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 6, 2020 10:01:44 GMT
He's been decent in the main, derby aside, and there is still much more to come from him I reckon. I’m hoping you’re correct. To-date (for me) I only seem to have seen “cameo” appearances/input from a player who appears to want to play and control play at his “pace”. Perhaps it’s the failure of others which determines his overall contribution. An additional concern being, if he and Ince don’t perform or contribute its down to the other 8 outfield players to carry the burden. Perhaps I wrong (hopefully).
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 6, 2020 10:02:55 GMT
Powelll's not the problem, most of the rest are. He’s not that special.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 6, 2020 10:07:09 GMT
Yeah, but Batth and Lindsay are, and that's just two of them. He's about as special as we're going to get at the level we're at.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 6, 2020 10:09:50 GMT
He's been decent in the main, derby aside, and there is still much more to come from him I reckon. I’m hoping you’re correct. To-date (for me) I only seem to have seen “cameo” appearances/input from a player who appears to want to play and control play at his “pace”. Perhaps it’s the failure of others which determines his overall contribution. An additional concern being, if he and Ince don’t perform or contribute its down to the other 8 outfield players to carry the burden. Perhaps I wrong (hopefully). He's only had one stinker in reality, v Derby and he's come into the team off the back of barely playing in the 1st half of the season. We won't see the best of him until next season I expect but his contribution to date, in my opinion, has been an important one. He takes opposition players out of the game and he gives others in our team the time and space to play. With them not being particularly good on the ball, that additional time is vitally important and is probably why we've seen improved performances from the likes of Mclean, Clucas and Allen, since he's come into the side.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 6, 2020 10:14:33 GMT
I’m hoping you’re correct. To-date (for me) I only seem to have seen “cameo” appearances/input from a player who appears to want to play and control play at his “pace”. Perhaps it’s the failure of others which determines his overall contribution. An additional concern being, if he and Ince don’t perform or contribute its down to the other 8 outfield players to carry the burden. Perhaps I wrong (hopefully). He's only had one stinker in reality, v Derby and he's come into the team off the back of barely playing in the 1st half of the season. We won't see the best of him until next season I expect but his contribution to date, in my opinion, has been an important one. He takes opposition players out of the game and he gives others in our team the time and space to play. With them not being particularly good on the ball, that additional time is vitally important and is probably why we've seen improved performances from the likes of Mclean, Clucas and Allen, since he's come into the side. Time will tell. As I said I hope you’re right. August will be massive for me, there will be a number of MON markers set down I’m sure in the hope of a successful (very) season. Will he be integral to that?
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Post by pez75 on Feb 6, 2020 10:36:51 GMT
He is the complete no.10. Skilful, holds the ball well and has an eye for a pass or goal. Good in the air and closes down the opposition while putting himself about with no lack of effort and not scared of a tackle. Build the team around him a la Wigan and he will flourish. Expect him to perform miracles with disjointed dross and you will be disappointed.
The self-appointed experts with Lord-in-chief residing can fuck off up the Vale with Tom Ince.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 10:42:07 GMT
He's only had one stinker in reality, v Derby and he's come into the team off the back of barely playing in the 1st half of the season. We won't see the best of him until next season I expect but his contribution to date, in my opinion, has been an important one. He takes opposition players out of the game and he gives others in our team the time and space to play. With them not being particularly good on the ball, that additional time is vitally important and is probably why we've seen improved performances from the likes of Mclean, Clucas and Allen, since he's come into the side. Time will tell. As I said I hope you’re right. August will be massive for me, there will be a number of MON markers set down I’m sure in the hope of a successful (very) season. Will he be integral to that? He has been so far, I don't see why, if he can stay fit, he wouldn't be. He's the difference between us carrying a goal threat and Rowettball sludge.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 6, 2020 11:42:26 GMT
In all Truth I think he’s weak as piss and pretty wank, only he believes his own hype. Does nothing for me.
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2020 12:53:28 GMT
In all Truth I think he’s weak as piss and pretty wank, only he believes his own hype. Does nothing for me. 'weak as piss' ? WTF? Powell is anything but
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Post by crowey on Feb 6, 2020 13:52:22 GMT
..... must say I’ve not been impressed by “sick note” so far, shown a few glimpses here & there. Maybe if he gets a decent run of games we will see more
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Post by datguy on Feb 6, 2020 13:59:17 GMT
I don't understand the stick he's getting.
When did he come back into the fold? Must've been Huddersfield away? Coincidentally the moment MO'N's reign went from looking dour to looking positive.
He's by far the most creative player in the squad.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2020 14:23:39 GMT
I don't understand the stick he's getting. When did he come back into the fold? Must've been Huddersfield away? Coincidentally the moment MO'N's reign went from looking dour to looking positive. He's by far the most creative player in the squad. It's because he had a bad game at Derby, and a lot of fans are totally incapable of stretching their memories beyond the last match.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 7, 2020 21:25:26 GMT
In all Truth I think he’s weak as piss and pretty wank, only he believes his own hype. Does nothing for me. Really? Weak as piss? He holds the ball up aswell as anyone I've seen. He's wank? Absolutely baffled by that to be honest and where have you got that only he believes his own hype from? And while I'm questioning you on your opinion which you are entitled to even if it's absolute bollocks, who does it for you?
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 8, 2020 16:31:05 GMT
I reckon he will score today 😎
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 8, 2020 17:07:02 GMT
Quality again from Powell, the Charlton commentators remarked on how he was also winning everything in the are and non-stop running/closing down.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 8, 2020 17:09:09 GMT
Quality again from Powell, the Charlton commentators remarked on how he was also winning everything in the are and non-stop running/closing down. He’s been excellent (Derby apart but everyone was shit) and hopefully he stays fit for rest of season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 8, 2020 18:04:47 GMT
Made a mockery of the nonsense that came out last week after one bad game.
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Post by stokefc on Feb 8, 2020 18:14:02 GMT
Made a mockery of the nonsense that came out last week after one bad game. Indeed
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Post by vahl on Feb 8, 2020 18:17:01 GMT
Made a mockery of the nonsense that came out last week after one bad game. We are 5th from bottom and he just put in a performance of the highest order in against 4th bottom. That really showed me, that did!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 8, 2020 18:17:22 GMT
Our best creative outlet, second time he’s scored a goal from that position with Tyrese establishing possession out wide. More intelligent passes, flicks round the corner and spatially he’s constantly dropping into space. Class today.
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