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Post by zerps on Jan 17, 2020 16:45:37 GMT
Does anyone have, or know anyone that can assist, with advice relating to a family member potentially needing nursing home care and the best way to protect their assets / property in this event?
Ta muchly.
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Post by steve66 on Jan 17, 2020 18:02:42 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 17, 2020 18:06:50 GMT
Cheers, I was hoping to hear personal experiences. Preferably by people that fucked the system.
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Post by steve66 on Jan 17, 2020 18:12:42 GMT
I work in care but wouldn’t know ways around that side of things! Do know some elderly will put their home into children’s name but still don’t know how this affects how care would be paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 18:19:09 GMT
Does anyone have, or know anyone that can assist, with advice relating to a family member potentially needing nursing home care and the best way to protect their assets / property in this event? Ta muchly. I've been through it all mate, for a while until May 2019. What do you need to know?
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 17, 2020 20:06:58 GMT
Dementia UK might be a good place to start.
Never dealt with them but I imagine they are a very good support function for both sides of the fence.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 17, 2020 22:26:19 GMT
If there's any ex forces connection (whether the person requiring care or their spouse) try the Royal British Legion charity. An outstanding organisation in my past experience.
North Staffs Carers may be useful.
Again Dementia UK and Age UK could be worth contacting.
Get as much as possible and investigate lasting power of attorney maybe.
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Post by algor on Jan 17, 2020 22:37:27 GMT
Does anyone have, or know anyone that can assist, with advice relating to a family member potentially needing nursing home care and the best way to protect their assets / property in this event? Ta muchly. I can't be 100% sure what the rules are now but it used to be that unless assets/ property were gifted to the next of kin 6 years prior to the said person needing nursing home care then the whole estate of said person would be liable for all costs until they were depleted, It's an absolute shit show!. Edit: Whatever money they have earned throughout their life should be spent on their final days, it's their money, it's not good but is what it is
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Post by zerps on Jan 18, 2020 7:46:05 GMT
If the money gets spent before anything happens, how do the authorities get it back?
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Post by choc on Jan 18, 2020 19:45:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 0:40:55 GMT
Mum & Dad lived & earned all their lives and had their own house for 40 odd years.. Mum had a stroke in 2013.. went to Hospital ended up in a Home...Dad was alone in his house after that....but then Dad two years later got Dimentia & ended up in a home too..Council took everything... Dad said to us years ago, let us sign the deeds to the house over to you..sister & i said don't be Stupid..thanks Stafford Council....
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Post by duckling on Jan 19, 2020 3:46:15 GMT
Here's a tip from a friend who is a social worker for the elderly. The best care isn't received by the people who paid extra for a fancy room. It's received by people whose loved ones visit often and at unpredictable times and who are vocal about their care.
If you visit every other day at 5pm, their diaper will be changed every other day at 4:45. But if you visit at 8am one day, then 4pm a few days later, then noon for two days in a row, their diapers will be changed regularly as they don't know when someone will visit.
In addition, be vocal in your feedback both good and bad. Shower them with gratitude when they do a good job, and compliment them to their supervisors. When they don't do a good job, speak with them privately first and then if they continue to neglect your loved one, speak to their supervisor.
Good luck. I know it's really tough and stressful.
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Post by zerps on Jan 19, 2020 8:16:25 GMT
What if I setup some fake emails and a private crypto wallet and say my mum sent all her money to a nigerian prince? I’d like to see stoke council solve that.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 19, 2020 12:29:32 GMT
What if I setup some fake emails and a private crypto wallet and say my mum sent all her money to a nigerian prince? I’d like to see stoke council solve that. I used to know a Nigerian Prince, joined the RN the same day as him just over 40 years ago, bit of an entitled twat to be fair, and that was long before Fakebook made being entitled fashionable
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Post by zerps on Jan 19, 2020 12:32:12 GMT
What if I setup some fake emails and a private crypto wallet and say my mum sent all her money to a nigerian prince? I’d like to see stoke council solve that. I used to know a Nigerian Prince, joined the RN the same day as him just over 40 years ago, bit of an entitled twat to be fair, and that was long before Fakebook made being entitled fashionable Whats his email address?
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Post by elystokie on Jan 19, 2020 12:43:07 GMT
I used to know a Nigerian Prince, joined the RN the same day as him just over 40 years ago, bit of an entitled twat to be fair, and that was long before Fakebook made being entitled fashionable Whats his email address? I last saw him about 37 years ago in Scotland, he didn't have one at the time I doubt he'd have been keen to give it to me if he did, we did have several minor 'skirmishes'
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 19, 2020 12:55:48 GMT
Here's a tip from a friend who is a social worker for the elderly. The best care isn't received by the people who paid extra for a fancy room. It's received by people whose loved ones visit often and at unpredictable times and who are vocal about their care. If you visit every other day at 5pm, their diaper will be changed every other day at 4:45. But if you visit at 8am one day, then 4pm a few days later, then noon for two days in a row, their diapers will be changed regularly as they don't know when someone will visit. In addition, be vocal in your feedback both good and bad. Shower them with gratitude when they do a good job, and compliment them to their supervisors. When they don't do a good job, speak with them privately first and then if they continue to neglect your loved one, speak to their supervisor. Good luck. I know it's really tough and stressful. this is spot on. It’s the only practical th8ng you can do, it’s very hard to shield the money
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 19, 2020 12:57:56 GMT
I know my grandad did them over had to do with the fact that they determined he couldn’t take care of my Nan even though he was adamant he could. So he argued that he shouldn’t pay for her care as it wasn’t his descision to do it so why should he pay, the NHS/council decided so they should pay. He stuck his ground and didn’t pay in the end they just took my nans pension as a contribution and that was it. Was told after that there are ways around it but they are all case subjective you have to find your own loophole based on their assessments and your capabilities.
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 19, 2020 13:01:56 GMT
Does anyone have, or know anyone that can assist, with advice relating to a family member potentially needing nursing home care and the best way to protect their assets / property in this event? Ta muchly. One other do you/they have power of attorney while the family member is in control of their facilities it’s advisable that way signing the house over or joint ownership can be secured even to the point. A family member of mine agreed it with his mother in advance and used her money to pay for family holidays while in care so it reduced the available money quicker and at least they got something out of it before the system had it all.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 19, 2020 13:16:17 GMT
What if I setup some fake emails and a private crypto wallet and say my mum sent all her money to a nigerian prince? I’d like to see stoke council solve that. I used to know a Nigerian Prince, joined the RN the same day as him just over 40 years ago, bit of an entitled twat to be fair, and that was long before Fakebook made being entitled fashionable Had similar Ely. Three of them in our class all useless at anything remotely technical. Many funny incidents though......in work shops on lathes one of them engaged thread lead screw instead of automatic saddle feed. Problem was the thread lead screw was set up for double start thread so on a very course feed and he was cutting aluminium at 600rpm. The saddle and tool post slammed into the rotating chuck shattering the chuck jaws before the shear pin snapped stopping everything dead with a huge bang which brought the usual entourage of workshop staff to investigate whilst us apprentices chuckled to ourselves. It’s the one an only time I’ve ever seen a Nigerian go white with fear. One of them bought a car without having a licence not even provisional. He caused an accident in Dunfermline and was arrested. Nigerian Embassy sent some lawyer up to defend him still got heavy fine anD ban. It didn’t stop him though he just ought another car and carried on. Apology to OP for going off topic on such an important issue.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 19, 2020 13:29:44 GMT
I used to know a Nigerian Prince, joined the RN the same day as him just over 40 years ago, bit of an entitled twat to be fair, and that was long before Fakebook made being entitled fashionable Had similar Ely. Three of them in our class all useless at anything remotely technical. Many funny incidents though......in work shops on lathes one of them engaged thread lead screw instead of automatic saddle feed. Problem was the thread lead screw was set up for double start thread so on a very course feed and he was cutting aluminium at 600rpm. The saddle and tool post slammed into the rotating chuck shattering the chuck jaws before the shear pin snapped stopping everything dead with a huge bang which brought the usual entourage of workshop staff to investigate whilst us apprentices chuckled to ourselves. It’s the one an only time I’ve ever seen a Nigerian go white with fear. One of them bought a car without having a licence not even provisional. He caused an accident in Dunfermline and was arrested. Nigerian Embassy sent some lawyer up to defend him still got heavy fine anD ban. It didn’t stop him though he just ought another car and carried on. Apology to OP for going off topic on such an important issue. The initial swimming tests were quite an event for those in our entry... Edit - and I thought I was part of some weird TV show or something when I first went in the dining hall at Fisgard and saw all these blokes dressed like extras from Joseph and his Technicolour Dreamcoat
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