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Post by markytcd on Jan 14, 2020 12:04:28 GMT
Anybody playing it? Anybody making money?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 12:32:04 GMT
I did, I don’t play it no more,
Only played it for a few months, gambled £100 without actually knowing how the game worked initially, made £137 from it. I couldn’t be arsed.
You can make huge amount but to get that you have to invest a huge amount too. Obviously that comes with the risk of losing it all.
Some on there were going take out bank loans to play it.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 14, 2020 13:01:58 GMT
I put about 2 grand in 2 years ago.Over doubled my money to close to £4500 so took out profit 3 months ago and left £1500 in.Currently enjoying 7 weeks Fuerterventura courtesy of the index.
"Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by stokecity4eva on Jan 14, 2020 13:13:05 GMT
Currently got £95 invested and portfolio is valued at £101.01 so very small stakes for me but definitely worth getting into.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 13:15:20 GMT
I gave it a test, free trial. I cancelled though and didn't take it further when I'd bought 3 shares in Bradley Dack.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 14, 2020 18:54:01 GMT
Stuck 20 quid in just to have a bit of play. Got a whopping 6p back in dividends.
Not sure what the “tactic” is with it but I’ve gone with a mix of youth and established players.
I plan to just keep sticking a few quid in it every now and again just as bit of fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 18:58:58 GMT
My mate has made literally thousands on it, but everyone seems to be making money so I'm quite convinced (without having a clue how it works) the whole thing is going to collapse.
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Post by markytcd on Jan 14, 2020 23:13:53 GMT
I put about 2 grand in 2 years ago.Over doubled my money to close to £4500 so took out profit 3 months ago and left £1500 in.Currently enjoying 7 weeks Fuerterventura courtesy of the index. "Vis Unita Fortior" Bet you were gutted to miss Millwall 😜
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Post by markytcd on Jan 15, 2020 1:43:00 GMT
Anybody available to give a "Stokie synopsis" how it works?
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 15, 2020 9:09:36 GMT
Stuck £10 into it once, made a massive profit
18 whole fecking pence
People are obviously making it work for themselves though.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 15, 2020 10:24:27 GMT
Anybody available to give a "Stokie synopsis" how it works? Here is how I understand the basics: You invest as much as you like in a player, just as you would a business if you played the stock market. A players value can go up or down depending on his form, goals assists etc. I think even if the club is doing well values can go up. Players are not expensive, think I heard this week that one Premier league player was 78p per share. Pays yer money and takes yer chance 🤔
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Post by bolly_premprem on Jan 15, 2020 12:46:51 GMT
after reading this thread, i thought id have a go, especially as they are offering a 7 day get your money back code
stuck £100 in ( dont tell the missus) and about 11:30 and im 45p up already ( of course if i sold now id probably be in loss because of the commision).
Hopefully the 3 players i bought will do well at the weekend and have a bit of a boost through their awards thing.
saw a youtube thing of a guys saying how he made 3grand or something in 12 months, which is not bad until you read that he invested over 9 grand to get it.. still a good profit if you have the spare cash to invest / play
dont expect it to buy you a house though.
a few years ago, i put £100 quid into a golf bet ( spread over 3 golfers when they were paying out each way on top 7) and won 410 quid off it ( 510 balance) too 500 out and randomly selected one golfer in the next tournement, who was 50-1 put 10 on him... and he won ))))) so i was a grand up. did it twice more ( 100 at a time) and lost everything both times, but still ended up £700 up ( spent it on archery equipment)
dont why i bothered to write that, except to say, gambling can work, but dont bet what you cant afford and know when to quit lol....
as BuzzB said, you pays your money and takes your chance
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 15, 2020 12:51:37 GMT
after reading this thread, i thought id have a go, especially as they are offering a 7 day get your money back code stuck £100 in ( dont tell the missus) and about 11:30 and im 45p up already ( of course if i sold now id probably be in loss because of the commision). Hopefully the 3 players i bought will do well at the weekend and have a bit of a boost through their awards thing. saw a youtube thing of a guys saying how he made 3grand or something in 12 months, which is not bad until you read that he invested over 9 grand to get it.. still a good profit if you have the spare cash to invest / play dont expect it to buy you a house though. a few years ago, i put £100 quid into a golf bet ( spread over 3 golfers when they were paying out each way on top 7) and won 410 quid off it ( 510 balance) too 500 out and randomly selected one golfer in the next tournement, who was 50-1 put 10 on him... and he won ))))) so i was a grand up. did it twice more ( 100 at a time) and lost everything both times, but still ended up £700 up ( spent it on archery equipment) dont why i bothered to write that, except to say, gambling can work, but dont bet what you cant afford and know when to quit lol.... as BuzzB said, you pays your money and takes your chance Too late, I've already told her
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Post by markytcd on Jan 15, 2020 12:58:36 GMT
after reading this thread, i thought id have a go, especially as they are offering a 7 day get your money back code stuck £100 in ( dont tell the missus) and about 11:30 and im 45p up already ( of course if i sold now id probably be in loss because of the commision). Hopefully the 3 players i bought will do well at the weekend and have a bit of a boost through their awards thing. saw a youtube thing of a guys saying how he made 3grand or something in 12 months, which is not bad until you read that he invested over 9 grand to get it.. still a good profit if you have the spare cash to invest / play dont expect it to buy you a house though. a few years ago, i put £100 quid into a golf bet ( spread over 3 golfers when they were paying out each way on top 7) and won 410 quid off it ( 510 balance) too 500 out and randomly selected one golfer in the next tournement, who was 50-1 put 10 on him... and he won ))))) so i was a grand up. did it twice more ( 100 at a time) and lost everything both times, but still ended up £700 up ( spent it on archery equipment) dont why i bothered to write that, except to say, gambling can work, but dont bet what you cant afford and know when to quit lol.... as BuzzB said, you pays your money and takes your chance Can I kindly ask which three players you bought?
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Post by bolly_premprem on Jan 15, 2020 13:03:29 GMT
chigstoke, mate what, now ill have to buy her something nice AND give her the profits markytcd i bought 10 shares in INGS(at 1.70 a share) ( should have bought more he is already up 3p a share), 20 in virgil van dijk(2.74 a share) (he is up 2p a share) and 5 in messi (5.61 a share) ( he is up 1p a share) im now 75p up in less than 2 hours im tempted to put more money in, but can see how it gets addictive and expensive
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Post by nott1 on Jan 15, 2020 15:23:36 GMT
Can you pay by credit card? haha
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 15, 2020 16:36:54 GMT
The spread on the players is too large to make a huge amount unless you have a spare 10 thousand lying about.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 15, 2020 16:59:51 GMT
Remember when selling don't do automatic sell as spread is massive you can set your own price usually up to a penny below buy price.Lots don't realise this.
"Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by stokecity4eva on Jan 15, 2020 17:27:19 GMT
chigstoke, mate what, now ill have to buy her something nice AND give her the profits markytcd i bought 10 shares in INGS(at 1.70 a share) ( should have bought more he is already up 3p a share), 20 in virgil van dijk(2.74 a share) (he is up 2p a share) and 5 in messi (5.61 a share) ( he is up 1p a share) im now 75p up in less than 2 hours im tempted to put more money in, but can see how it gets addictive and expensive If your on Twitter there are a number of good profiles to follow for advice on it. @indexbuzz & @indexgain are 2 i follow indexgain especially is a decent account with a gd website. Messi is a good dividend winner he’s won 84p in dividends per share this season so far.
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Post by zerps on Jan 15, 2020 17:29:02 GMT
Anybody available to give a "Stokie synopsis" how it works? Here is how I understand the basics: You invest as much as you like in a player, just as you would a business if you played the stock market. A players value can go up or down depending on his form, goals assists etc. I think even if the club is doing well values can go up. Players are not expensive, think I heard this week that one Premier league player was 78p per share. Pays yer money and takes yer chance 🤔 What if they get caught shagging a granny? Jackpot?
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Post by westy on Jan 15, 2020 20:39:27 GMT
I've been on for a year now. Highly recommend it for anyone who is into football betting and investing. It's safer than normal betting and more fun than the real Stockmarket. Portfolio is up 40% after the 1st year. You can use this link to get a bonus £10 when you open an account and deposit a tenner: trade.footballindex.co.uk/raf/?tag=242002&name=WestyStart off slow and learn the ropes! You can find me on the Football Index forum if you need any help getting started.
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Post by westy on Jan 15, 2020 20:54:25 GMT
Anybody available to give a "Stokie synopsis" how it works? Trade shares for cap app- try and spot an upcoming wonderkid early. Or a player from abroad that will make it in the prem. Or buy and hold onto shares in players that you think will be in the media lots (e.g Kane, pogba) and win dividends (media payouts are daily) or players you think will score the most performance points dividends (e.g.neymar) My port is a mix of yth, media players and performance players. The yields being produced are much better than any real stocks I've held before. E. G. Pogba and Neymar both returned yields over 20% last year (just for holding them and winning dividends). This season looks like yields could be as big as 30% due to a recent dividend payout increase. Over the year, I've moved all my savings into it. I make more than my ISA would produce in a year of sitting in the bank pretty much weekly. It took quite a while to get the hang of it though, so highly recommend reading up in the forum etc.
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Post by markytcd on Jan 15, 2020 21:05:57 GMT
Anybody available to give a "Stokie synopsis" how it works? Trade shares for cap app- try and spot an upcoming wonderkid early. Or a player from abroad that will make it in the prem. Or buy and hold onto shares in players that you think will be in the media lots (e.g Kane, pogba) and win dividends (media payouts are daily) or players you think will score the most performance points dividends (e.g.neymar) My port is a mix of yth, media players and performance players. The yields being produced are much better than any real stocks I've held before. E. G. Pogba and Neymar both returned yields over 20% last year (just for holding them and winning dividends). This season looks like yields could be as big as 30% due to a recent dividend payout increase. Over the year, I've moved all my savings into it. I make more than my ISA would produce in a year of sitting in the bank pretty much weekly. It took quite a while to get the hang of it though, so highly recommend reading up in the forum etc. Thanks for the info Westy. Sounds like a ringing endorsement but not quite ready to make it my top investment strategy. Are you a Stoke fan?
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Post by chad on Jan 15, 2020 21:09:46 GMT
No. He works for Football Index 😊
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Post by markytcd on Jan 15, 2020 21:12:53 GMT
No. He works for Football Index 😊 I had a sneaking suspicion but was trying to offload my shares in Imbula 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 22:03:33 GMT
I’ve been on the index almost a year, I’ve made almost 4k in that time, would have likely made a good chunk more but most new users end up falling into some of the traps that face traders. A player like Kante who in real life is outstanding is actually a bit of a dud on the index due to the way the performance scores are calculated. Dividends are paid out on either performance on the pitch or most mentions in the media each day. No real suprise that Neymar and Pogba are some of the most expensive players. The index in my opinion is only going to get bigger and bigger as it becomes more widely known- additional advertising and new countries trading on the platform. There isn’t a bank account out there that can make you the kind of money you can on there. Although it has to be said as with any form of gambling which is what the index is (3year holds on shares bought) tthere is always risk and only gamble what you can afford to lose!
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Post by markytcd on Jan 15, 2020 22:29:42 GMT
I’ve been on the index almost a year, I’ve made almost 4k in that time, would have likely made a good chunk more but most new users end up falling into some of the traps that face traders. A player like Kante who in real life is outstanding is actually a bit of a dud on the index due to the way the performance scores are calculated. Dividends are paid out on either performance on the pitch or most mentions in the media each day. No real suprise that Neymar and Pogba are some of the most expensive players. The index in my opinion is only going to get bigger and bigger as it becomes more widely known- additional advertising and new countries trading on the platform. There isn’t a bank account out there that can make you the kind of money you can on there. Although it has to be said as with any form of gambling which is what the index is (3year holds on shares bought) tthere is always risk and only gamble what you can afford to lose! So I am guessing you and Westy are "familiar" with FI? I am reading deposit what you like and they/you refund up to £500 losses over 7 days?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 23:24:31 GMT
Yes there is an offer that FI are currently offering in January where you can effectively trade risk free with £500. Say for example you buy £500 worth of shares in 1 player but the shares decrease in value by £50 by the end of the month they will give you the £50 to top you back up to £500. Of course you could split the £500 over several players. January can be a volatile month as there can be big gains but also big losses trying to chase January transfer players. My advice if you were thinking of investing on the index would be to go on the football index forum, read as much as you can to get a feel for it. Then try with a small amount until you become more confident in the product, only then would I consider investing a greater sum of money. And in case you’re wondering Stoke players are of no real value on the index either as they do not play in one of the top 5 leagues. Despite this I hold a small amount of Joe Allen so that if he does get a move to a prem club he may make me a little money to offset the loss.
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Post by markytcd on Jan 16, 2020 0:11:28 GMT
Trade shares for cap app- try and spot an upcoming wonderkid early. Or a player from abroad that will make it in the prem. Or buy and hold onto shares in players that you think will be in the media lots (e.g Kane, pogba) and win dividends (media payouts are daily) or players you think will score the most performance points dividends (e.g.neymar) My port is a mix of yth, media players and performance players. The yields being produced are much better than any real stocks I've held before. E. G. Pogba and Neymar both returned yields over 20% last year (just for holding them and winning dividends). This season looks like yields could be as big as 30% due to a recent dividend payout increase. Over the year, I've moved all my savings into it. I make more than my ISA would produce in a year of sitting in the bank pretty much weekly. It took quite a while to get the hang of it though, so highly recommend reading up in the forum etc. Thanks for the info Westy. Sounds like a ringing endorsement but not quite ready to make it my top investment strategy. Are you a Stoke fan? So who loses?
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Post by westy on Jan 16, 2020 6:56:59 GMT
Thanks for the info Westy. Sounds like a ringing endorsement but not quite ready to make it my top investment strategy. Are you a Stoke fan? So who loses? Stoke are one of a few teams I follow as I've moved about with jobs, now working in Bournemouth. Stoke got relegated when I was there and now Bournemouth are suffering. Use to live in London and get to watch Arsenal and Qpr, think I'm cursed... Look out whichever team I move near next. Don't hold any Stoke players at the moment, but have been a bit biased and bought fraser and solanke from watching them. At the moment, losing wise it will be traders that go big on a few players, and if those players aren't performing or got a big injury etc they will be down. They can continue to hold or sell back to footballindex at a loss to get back some of their stake. I'd advise diversity to make sure you don't rely on 1 or 2 players too much in case something happens to them. I'm down big on a few players but profit in others more than compensates e.g. Robert Beric sounds like he is transferring from France (a performance dividend league) to the MLS (no dividends from that lg) so he's been dumped by holders and I was late to the news, down about £300 on him. It's a growing market though with expansion to Germany joining the market this year and then the US states that can now gamble online. Order books powered by nasdaq are coming too. So more losers will come as the growth settles down in the future but I guess they want to get France, Spain, Italy etc involved too over time so a long way away from the market cap and the tough trading. I really don't advise gambling, just recommend this as an alternative to betting on games etc at a bookies. Or the stock market. If you don't do any of that already, I'd avoid as its very addictive. It's a nicotine patch to get you off the cigarettes... But if you don't smoke don't touch the patches.
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