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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 20:13:20 GMT
they should build a fan park by the stanley matthews statue plenty of room there There’s a Stanley Matthews statue?!! Where? It's just down from the newly emerging Cricket Club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2020 20:19:22 GMT
This football on Sky at the moment looks pretty alive. The Villa fans weren't in agreement. Great wasn’t it 😂
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 12, 2020 20:28:28 GMT
Football is alive and kicking.
If you think there are empty spaces at Championship games, have a look at the empty spaces at County Championship Cricket matches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 20:56:20 GMT
Football is alive and kicking. If you think there are empty spaces at Championship games, have a look at the empty spaces at County Championship Cricket matches. It has always been the same. County games used to last three days, and tests five days. Then add in the one day games, and two day games.....
Cricket isn't a ninety minute kick and rush extravaganza.
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Post by Davef on Jan 12, 2020 21:05:29 GMT
Add to that the time wasting I’ve said it before, players are stewards of a game that will exist after they retire, stewards of a game that has given them good money and a comfortable, healthy lifestyle. Why then, a parts from the pressure to win at all costs, do they act the way they do? If I pay £30 to watch a game, I can take us being shit, I can accept a mistake, but I ain’t going to watch a player take 90 seconds over a throw in, or pretend he’s hurt his head to break up the play. A new one has crept in this season.......rule for taking a goal-kick was changed to taking it from whichever side the keeper chose, the idea being that it would speed up play. Instead keepers use it to waste time by slowly strolling over to the opposite side to take it. Really infuriating. Also the new directive for substituted players to leave the pitch at the nearest point has taken a new twist where players will start to stroll off toward the dug out then suddenly realise their "mistake" and do a u-turn and jog back to where they came from and then stroll off at the nearest point. The only answer is time keeping as in rugby league and clock stops when ball is out of play. That rule has been in force for years, and keepers have been abusing it since it was introduced.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 12, 2020 21:07:04 GMT
Football is alive and kicking. If you think there are empty spaces at Championship games, have a look at the empty spaces at County Championship Cricket matches. It has always been the same. County games used to last three days, and tests five days. Then add in the one day games, and two day games..... Cricket isn't a ninety minute kick and rush extravaganza.
That's why football is brilliant and won't die. It's instant and exciting for the majority of the time, cricket can take a few days to get going
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 21:11:12 GMT
It has always been the same. County games used to last three days, and tests five days. Then add in the one day games, and two day games..... Cricket isn't a ninety minute kick and rush extravaganza.
That's why football is brilliant and won't die. It's instant and exciting for the majority of the time, cricket can take a few days to get going Well the one day internationals and 20:20 cricket were introduced for folks that wanted to watch runs, and not cricket. I have no interest in those matches at all.
Most football games that I have watched over the last three years never did get "going".
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 12, 2020 21:12:29 GMT
Football isn't dying at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 21:15:29 GMT
Too much coverage is the problem I think. You can pretty much watch football 24/7 on television. It has become boring a sterile. Back when I were a lad you either went live or watched in on star soccer on a sundee afternoon, and only then if you have a tanner for the rental slot on the back of the tele. Going further back: playing yourself, and watching the big boys live Saturday afternoon 3:15 on the dot every time. Then when the european games reached final stages watching on tv or watching the national team on tv. Today there's just no comparison. Yet I would not describe football as dying. Slumbering maybe, but it's only beauty sleeping. It remains the people's game pretty much everywhere you go, except the US and even they are coming around.
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Post by stokieoldboy on Jan 12, 2020 21:16:50 GMT
what pisses me off, more than anything,is that in any league the world, you now only have one or two clubs, who are far superior than any other team in the same league, mainly because the clubs are owned by filthy rich backers, who don't mind paying hundreds of millions on the best players, and other teams can't compete, its so fcukg unfair, its killing the game, and it needs fcukg sorting out,and so does V.A.R. rant over.
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Post by staffsvilla on Jan 12, 2020 21:47:51 GMT
Swansea are a small club in terms of fan base, poor turn out from them for a local derby, but they don’t travel well, probably due to geographical location. They sold out their reduced allocation, heddu reduced away allocations for both s. Wales derbies 👍 UTV
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 13, 2020 7:35:50 GMT
Football isn't dying at all. In my eyes It is a slow lingering death by a thousand cuts Oh yes there will be a game resembling football Soccer they'll call it played in half empty stadiums with a atmosphere as sterile as the local hospital as fans are afraid to say anything The games will last 120 minutes so the sponsord var breaks can be shown Tackling will be virtualy outlawed and the heading of a ball prohibited So in my eyes its on its way out as the game I fell in love with as a five year old When players tackled fans sang and the place smelt of fags beer and stale piss the songs and the gallows humour I haven't watched a full top flight game this season or European tie on television and I thought I'd never say that I still get my weekly fix with non league football and replays of Stoke games but even that is getting hard at times
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 13, 2020 7:49:33 GMT
Football isn't dying at all. In my eyes It is a slow lingering death by a thousand cuts Oh yes there will be a game resembling football Soccer they'll call it played in half empty stadiums with a atmosphere as sterile as the local hospital as fans are afraid to say anything The games will last 120 minutes so the sponsord var breaks can be shown Tackling will be virtualy outlawed and the heading of a ball prohibited So in my eyes its on its way out as the game I fell in love with as a five year old When players tackled fans sang and the place smelt of fags beer and stale piss the songs and the gallows humour I haven't watched a full top flight game this season or European tie on television and I thought I'd never say that I still get my weekly fix with non league football and replays of Stoke games but even that is getting hard at times Changing doesn't equate to dying.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 13, 2020 8:00:21 GMT
I don’t think football is dying, but I do wonder how much life there is left in the Premiership era which has basically been built on the huge amounts of cash from the near monopoly that is Sky TV. More competition will fragment the supply side leading to cheaper prices for consumers and less revenue for the Premiership.
Considering the lion’s share of club revenues is pissed up the wall on ludicrous salaries for so many dead beat players and lining the pockets of agents a significant drop in money will mean they will feel the brunt of this - as well as some clubs who find themselves overcommitted as happened when that ITV deal collapsed a few years back (they’ll sort themselves out at some point though).
I’m looking forward to this.
Football will be cheaper, more accessible and clubs will be all the better off for not having to ride the Premiership gravy train.
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Post by serpico on Jan 13, 2020 8:45:19 GMT
Not dying but I do think it’s lost it’s soul a bit, all the new stadiums look and feel the same, there’s no real character, same goes for the players these days, there’s very few big characters in the game, there’s so much money involved everything is taken very seriously.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Jan 13, 2020 9:29:48 GMT
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Post by tqstokie on Jan 13, 2020 11:10:02 GMT
Yes, not the same played on a billiard table. Gone is the mud, the heavy ball and huge brown or black boots. It will never be the same.
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Post by mistergumby on Jan 13, 2020 11:26:52 GMT
Actually this newly emerging sport that they have called "cricket" is going the same way. I can distinctly remember my father (in the 1960s) asking me if I wanted to go to the test match at Lords the next day. New Zealand were the opposition. Of course I did want to go. We went to the train station (Taunton) and two "day returns" to Paddington did it (no booking at all). Tube to St Johns Wood. Cash turnstile into Lords. Things are just so much more expensive and complicated now. I blame Brexit. Did pretty much the same for the Ashes test at Trent Bridge in 1977, i.e. going on the spur of the moment, pay on the gate - that sort of thing. A group of my friends went to the one day international cricket at Old Trafford last summer. Bog standard seat? That will be £120 plus booking fee booked online 8 months in advance thank you sir. Pint of undrinkable filth masquerading as booze? £6-8 thank you sir. I can only imagine that football (and, indeed, other sport) is similarly disenfranchising much of the purported traditional supporter base in the same fashion. Everybody has their own reasons and circumstances of course but I still believe that cost is the main reason for non attendance. I also blame Brexit.
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Post by s7oke on Jan 13, 2020 11:47:54 GMT
Greedy fucking agents and talentless gutless don’t give a fuck players
Bunch of cunts !!!
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 13, 2020 12:36:08 GMT
The cups are definitely dying, as evidenced by our own manager’s approach to our last FA Cup tie
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Post by northstaffycher on Jan 13, 2020 12:53:57 GMT
Too much coverage is the problem I think. You can pretty much watch football 24/7 on television. It has become boring a sterile. Back when I were a lad you either went live or watched in on star soccer on a sundee afternoon, and only then if you have a tanner for the rental slot on the back of the tele. I can still hum the tune from Star Soccer. Remember a Leicester player wearing tights for a game with a snow covered pitch with orange ball. Funny what you remember!
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Post by kristoff on Jan 13, 2020 13:23:12 GMT
Yet crowds for the most part are bigger than ever Are they though? From what I’ve heard on the radio pretty much every club is claiming far higher attendances than they actually have. Add in clubs like Newcastle giving away half season tickets for free and it’s way off a like for like comparison with the past
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Post by mistergumby on Jan 13, 2020 14:45:59 GMT
Too much coverage is the problem I think. You can pretty much watch football 24/7 on television. It has become boring a sterile. Back when I were a lad you either went live or watched in on star soccer on a sundee afternoon, and only then if you have a tanner for the rental slot on the back of the tele. I can still hum the tune from Star Soccer. Remember a Leicester player wearing tights for a game with a snow covered pitch with orange ball. Funny what you remember! Keith Weller.
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Post by AlliG on Jan 13, 2020 16:03:36 GMT
I can still hum the tune from Star Soccer. Remember a Leicester player wearing tights for a game with a snow covered pitch with orange ball. Funny what you remember! Keith Weller. Those on here who get a bit narked by players wearing gloves would be in total meltdown to see Keith Weller in his tights!
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2020 0:20:19 GMT
Those on here who get a bit narked by players wearing gloves would be in total meltdown to see Keith Weller in his tights! Difference is Wellers tights are jolly fun because it's nostalgia. Now he'd be called an overpaid attention seeking tosser who should be thrown in jail. The reason being in this age it's hate first think second.
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Post by skip on Jan 14, 2020 0:25:00 GMT
Swansea are a small club in terms of fan base, poor turn out from them for a local derby, but they don’t travel well, probably due to geographical location. Cardiff and Swansea are fifty miles apart which is as far as Stoke and Nottingham, so not that close really.
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Post by callas12 on Jan 14, 2020 2:57:25 GMT
Swansea are a small club in terms of fan base, poor turn out from them for a local derby, but they don’t travel well, probably due to geographical location. They sold out their reduced allocation, heddu reduced away allocations for both s. Wales derbies 👍 UTV The Swansea fans had to take official coaches to the fixture too which is far from ideal for alot of peoples circumstances. Similar to what we had to do at Derby away years ago, caused right mither for some Stokies I recall, especially our Derby based contingent! Swansea fans had to purchase a coach ticket which was exchanged en-route to Cardiff for a match ticket & the cost for both match & coach ticket aswell as booking fees & postage etc came to almost a staggering £45! For a game that was on TV without the expense or hassle!
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 14, 2020 3:16:26 GMT
It’s not dying, but VAR has seriously wounded it
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 14, 2020 3:18:29 GMT
It’s not dying, but VAR has seriously wounded it
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Post by skeelsy on Jan 14, 2020 11:21:10 GMT
When i first starting attending matches at the Victoria Ground attendances averaged around 8,000 even though admittance charges were dirt cheap. Despite short-term problems with the introduction of VAR football has never been more popular and anyone who thinks football is dying is not living in the real world.
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