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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2020 9:02:29 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2020 9:08:09 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2020 9:10:41 GMT
Evans can't be worth more than 1.5m and he's out of contract in 18 months. I doubt Blackburn have the money to pay the difference for Woods unless we let him go at a massive loss.
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Post by Gods on Jan 10, 2020 9:10:44 GMT
Cornelius seems to be 30 in July and a career riddled with groin problems.
Not sure about this one.
I'd never heard of him but by all accounts he is a 'job in hand' kind of player, I guess if there is any way we could get him fit and keep him fit it could just work at some level.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2020 9:14:44 GMT
Evans can't be worth more than 1.5m and he's out of contract in 18 months. I doubt Blackburn have the money to pay the difference for Woods unless we let him go at a massive loss. Yeah Wages would probably be a problem too. Would imagine Woods could be on more than the typical Blackburn contract - and I don't think it was ever announced, but probably for at least another 2 and a half years. But if he's of no use to us (and MON seems to have reached the same conclusion as Rowett and Jones), it would probably be better to have the player that MON implicitly trusts, if we can possibly swing it.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2020 9:19:02 GMT
Evans can't be worth more than 1.5m and he's out of contract in 18 months. I doubt Blackburn have the money to pay the difference for Woods unless we let him go at a massive loss. Yeah Wages would probably be a problem too. Would imagine Woods could be on more than the typical Blackburn contract - and I don't think it was ever announced, but probably for at least another 2 and a half years. But if he's of no use to us (and MON seems to have reached the same conclusion as Rowett and Jones), it would probably be better to have the player that MON implicitly trusts, if we can possibly swing it. I'm not so sure he's written Woods off just yet, certainly not according to his post match interview against Brentford. If Allen leaves which I think he will it leaves us with a very worrying midfield.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 10, 2020 9:26:20 GMT
Evans in, Woods out? I think if there is much transfer activity in this window we might see a lot of these one for one in and outs, especially in deals with a specific club. We were linked with a guy at Sheff Wed weren't we, with Gregory perhaps going the other way.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 10, 2020 9:30:46 GMT
I will drive Woods to Blackburn myself, he is rubbish
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 10, 2020 9:33:30 GMT
I will drive Woods to Blackburn myself, he is rubbish Thing is though brentford rated him, Lawrence says there is a player in there but yet another turns up st scfc and doesn't deliver
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jan 10, 2020 9:43:56 GMT
He's generally poor but we have seen him perform, especially on his arrival and occasionally when he returns from a stint out of the team. He's a player that tries to pass through the lines and it can be effective. Even when he's doing this I worry about other parts of his game however the biggest problem is like most of our squad he can only do it one game in 20.
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jan 10, 2020 9:46:01 GMT
He's generally poor but we have seen him perform, especially on his arrival and occasionally when he returns from a stint out of the team. He's a player that tries to pass through the lines and it can be effective. Even when he's doing this I worry about other parts of his game however the biggest problem is like most of our squad he can only do it one game in 20. My two main concerns with Woods are how lightweight he is. Seems to hardly win a tackle and is far too small to win a header. Wonder is Sawyers helped to cover this for him at Brentford?
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Post by LankyPotter on Jan 10, 2020 9:51:01 GMT
He's generally poor but we have seen him perform, especially on his arrival and occasionally when he returns from a stint out of the team. He's a player that tries to pass through the lines and it can be effective. Even when he's doing this I worry about other parts of his game however the biggest problem is like most of our squad he can only do it one game in 20. My two main concerns with Woods are how lightweight he is. Seems to hardly win a tackle and is far too small to win a header. Wonder is Sawyers helped to cover this for him at Brentford? Sawyers is by far and away the best midfielder in the league. I don’t think its a case of Sawyers covering him, its more that those two players clearly suited eachother. Sawyers is always available and does play forward with quality.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 10, 2020 9:52:12 GMT
We have to trust MON on this one. He is obviously a fan and can see he could fit in well and he is what we need. Ultimately if we're looking to get a player in who will play and one out who wont it's a good move.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 10, 2020 10:12:29 GMT
I will drive Woods to Blackburn myself, he is rubbish Thing is though brentford rated him, Lawrence says there is a player in there but yet another turns up st scfc and doesn't deliver I just cannot warm to him, he just waves his arms around telling everyone to make the pass he should have done before, i just dont rate him at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 10:49:52 GMT
Thing is though brentford rated him, Lawrence says there is a player in there but yet another turns up st scfc and doesn't deliver I just cannot warm to him, he just waves his arms around telling everyone to make the pass he should have done before, i just dont rate him at all. That's him in a nutshell. I cringe every time he tries to take a man on in his own half
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 10, 2020 10:53:13 GMT
I just cannot warm to him, he just waves his arms around telling everyone to make the pass he should have done before, i just dont rate him at all. That's him in a nutshell. I cringe every time he tries to take a man on in his own half His passes are suicide passes, then points where he want play it, cannot control a ball and passes are hit waist hi at 90mph lol , awful footballer.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 10, 2020 11:15:39 GMT
Evans can't be worth more than 1.5m and he's out of contract in 18 months. I doubt Blackburn have the money to pay the difference for Woods unless we let him go at a massive loss. That's it right there H., I doubt they have too and while, once we could have just carried on losing millions on players, FFP will bite us if we carry on.
Can't remember what we paid for Woods (if we ever knew) but it wasn't that long ago was it (?) and so even the amortised fee won't be paid off will it yet?
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Post by thestatusquo on Jan 10, 2020 11:24:50 GMT
Evans can't be worth more than 1.5m and he's out of contract in 18 months. I doubt Blackburn have the money to pay the difference for Woods unless we let him go at a massive loss. That's it right there H., I doubt they have too and while, once we could have just carried on losing millions on players, FFP will bite us if we carry on.
Can't remember what we paid for Woods (if we ever knew) but it wasn't that long ago was it (?) and so even the amortised fee won't be paid off will it yet? I think we paid £6m for him
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 11:31:27 GMT
Woods is shite but Evans is about 30, not particularly tall and I'm not aware he can control a football.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 10, 2020 11:31:59 GMT
He's generally poor but we have seen him perform, especially on his arrival and occasionally when he returns from a stint out of the team. He's a player that tries to pass through the lines and it can be effective. Even when he's doing this I worry about other parts of his game however the biggest problem is like most of our squad he can only do it one game in 20. My two main concerns with Woods are how lightweight he is. Seems to hardly win a tackle and is far too small to win a header. Wonder is Sawyers helped to cover this for him at Brentford? Sawyers is more or less the same height and build and would often play in a more advanced role than Woods. Even the CDM who often played alongside Woods, Mokotjo (who is smaller than Woods) is in the lower third of players for successful tackles per game. Brentford's most effective way of defending was simple keeping the ball away from the opposition. They averaged 57% of the ball in the final season they played together. We are terrible on the ball compared to Brentford, so it's little wonder his lack of physicality gets exposed. It was a batshit decision from Rowett when Woods has none of the hallmarks that someone like Gary Rowett would want from a sitting midfielder.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 10, 2020 11:33:44 GMT
That's it right there H., I doubt they have too and while, once we could have just carried on losing millions on players, FFP will bite us if we carry on.
Can't remember what we paid for Woods (if we ever knew) but it wasn't that long ago was it (?) and so even the amortised fee won't be paid off will it yet? I think we paid £6m for him Then we'd need to know the contract length.
Assume the 'usual' batshit 5 years standard one (& if I'm right about buying him last season), then we've written off £1.2 off the £6M.
So £4.8 on the books to 'clear' or add to the losses for FFP (not wise).
So either CE is worth that in a swap (haha) or, assuming both parties agree an arbitrary £1.5m fee for CE, then Blackburn would need to stump up £3.3M?
Not happening that.
Then along came someone with a calculator to amend my dates / figures
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 10, 2020 11:36:21 GMT
My two main concerns with Woods are how lightweight he is. Seems to hardly win a tackle and is far too small to win a header. Wonder is Sawyers helped to cover this for him at Brentford? Sawyers is by far and away the best midfielder in the league. I don’t think its a case of Sawyers covering him, its more that those two players clearly suited eachother. Sawyers is always available and does play forward with quality. You mean other clubs actually buy players they know how to use and operate cohesively within a chosen system? Is that allowed?
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Post by nonameface on Jan 10, 2020 11:54:56 GMT
I think we paid £6m for him Then we'd need to know the contract length.
Assume the 'usual' batshit 5 years standard one (& if I'm right about buying him last season), then we've written off £1.2 off the £6M.
So £4.8 on the books to 'clear' or add to the losses for FFP (not wise).
So either CE is worth that in a swap (haha) or, assuming both parties agree an arbitrary £1.5m fee for CE, then Blackburn would need to stump up £3.3M?
Not happening that.
Then along came someone with a calculator to amend my dates / figures
😇 Was Woods deal made permanent in the summer? If so, nothing has come off the starting value. As you say though, finances don't make sense on this.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 10, 2020 11:59:02 GMT
This potential player all of a sudden looks a lot more exciting a prospect than it did earlier in the week.
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Post by 4kingal on Jan 10, 2020 12:00:32 GMT
Take Evans off them and loan Woods to them for the rest of the season maybe ??
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Post by dexta on Jan 10, 2020 19:47:55 GMT
Woods going millwall
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 15:58:16 GMT
Evans stretchered off after 13 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 15:59:03 GMT
Evans stretchered off after 13 minutes. Rough for him of course but I don't rate him at all, could be a lucky escape.
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Post by onionman on Jan 11, 2020 15:59:56 GMT
Another dream dies.
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Post by peekay67 on Jan 11, 2020 16:18:47 GMT
When at his previous club he played in a pass and move midfield and he was a chief architect in that system
Since he has been with unfortunately we have not been a fluid, full of movement type of team.
If he goes, he goes. But I don't think we have really seen the best of the lad.
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