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Post by stokeuk474 on Jan 13, 2021 16:12:53 GMT
Without trees, there would be no wardrobes. (Though some may say that would be a good thing) We'd also be without Sam Vokes, which would be a very good thing!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 13, 2021 16:13:24 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 13, 2021 16:15:47 GMT
Just a striker now the complete a great window, potentially, who do we think it will be..or is this the end of our incoming business?..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2021 16:18:18 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 13, 2021 16:18:49 GMT
There's a lot of talk on here about the potential of these young players if we were to get promoted.
I think the Prem. is a totally different scene to the Championship and we would have to buy a shed load of quality players to survive. Only Souttar, Collins, and Bursik have shown signs of potential to step up to that level.
Equally important is developing a core of players who have "DNA" like Pulis's team to dig out results.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 13, 2021 16:25:26 GMT
What does "championship hopefuls" mean? We are hopeful of staying in the Championship or hopeful of being in the PL 😁
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 13, 2021 16:25:57 GMT
There's a lot of talk on here about the potential of these young players if we were to get promoted. I think the Prem. is a totally different scene to the Championship and we would have to buy a shed load of quality players to survive. Only Souttar, Collins, and Bursik have shown signs of potential to step up to that level. Equally important is developing a core of players who have "DNA" like Pulis's team to dig out results. Campbell?
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Post by skelman on Jan 13, 2021 16:44:14 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 13, 2021 16:47:35 GMT
astonishing Calling any catholic man who grew up in the 70's/80's in a predominantly protestant town in NIreland a coward is in itself utterly ludicrous, once you spend even a cursory moment examining O'Neill's character it goes beyond parody. Can't think of a more preposterous argument re Verlinden - he hasn't bene given a chance because he arses about in training, it's nothing to do with his ability (which is obvious). re his approach to this season he's - as he said he would do - addressed the issue from last season (& the previous seasons) of Stoke being easy to score against , he's done that with safety first tactics & by good coaching on the training ground (credit to his staff of course). He's brought through the other young players brilliantly apart from Edwards who, guess what (?) has been an arse re his being pissed at the training ground (unacceptable). attacking wise we have very little other than Campbell, Powell & Fletcher & FFP is what it is so he's now addressing that by signing/attempting to sign good attacking players. at no point has he been a coward if your disappointed at the lack of good attacking play well tough, he's building the side from tHe back first. He's not Pulis who always wants defensive football (that's tactical cowardice) he's more akin to Waddington who built a dour side first & then added quality attacking football later Cowards don't play Souttar & Collins or even Campbell If he was a coward he would have taken the Celtic job when it was offered to him a few years ago, that's an easy gig. Instead he waited for the right club (that's us by the way although you wouldn't know it with some of the stuff on this board) even though we looked doomed at the foot of the table, no cowardice there. would absolutely love to see anyone call O'Neill a coward to his face His background has sod all to do with this. His approach this season has been appalling. We didn't need to go so defensive. Last season under him we were generally fine at the back. He's been very much like Pulis. He waited way too long to play all 3 of them. And still isn't using Collins correctly. And tbh Campbell should be used more up front now too, well if he was fit. Verlinden's attitude is fine too, that's just nonsense. How the fuck do you know what his attitude is like? Are you in the coaching set up? I remember you bleating on about Tom Edwards and how it was a disgrace he wasn't playing and blah blah blah when you knew the square root of piss all about what was going on.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 13, 2021 16:47:48 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of! Well he has got another couple of weeks to find himself another club and fuck off!
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 13, 2021 16:49:43 GMT
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Post by moon on Jan 13, 2021 16:50:34 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of! I don't think he'll mind, if he's lucky he won't make the matchday squad.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 13, 2021 16:52:28 GMT
Report from a Leeds season ticket holder: Had the odd good game- was good in the “spy gate “ game... generally too weak- a “wet lettuce “ who couldn’t get in the QPR team last season when there. Has done “nothing of note for 2 years”. I wonder if we've scouted him or are just relying on old videos from 2 years ago.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2021 16:54:23 GMT
Not at all actually and it indeed far from it. But it's definitely like talking at trees, a great analogy!
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Post by christhepotter on Jan 13, 2021 17:02:55 GMT
astonishing Calling any catholic man who grew up in the 70's/80's in a predominantly protestant town in NIreland a coward is in itself utterly ludicrous, once you spend even a cursory moment examining O'Neill's character it goes beyond parody. Can't think of a more preposterous argument re Verlinden - he hasn't bene given a chance because he arses about in training, it's nothing to do with his ability (which is obvious). re his approach to this season he's - as he said he would do - addressed the issue from last season (& the previous seasons) of Stoke being easy to score against , he's done that with safety first tactics & by good coaching on the training ground (credit to his staff of course). He's brought through the other young players brilliantly apart from Edwards who, guess what (?) has been an arse re his being pissed at the training ground (unacceptable). attacking wise we have very little other than Campbell, Powell & Fletcher & FFP is what it is so he's now addressing that by signing/attempting to sign good attacking players. at no point has he been a coward if your disappointed at the lack of good attacking play well tough, he's building the side from tHe back first. He's not Pulis who always wants defensive football (that's tactical cowardice) he's more akin to Waddington who built a dour side first & then added quality attacking football later Cowards don't play Souttar & Collins or even Campbell If he was a coward he would have taken the Celtic job when it was offered to him a few years ago, that's an easy gig. Instead he waited for the right club (that's us by the way although you wouldn't know it with some of the stuff on this board) even though we looked doomed at the foot of the table, no cowardice there. would absolutely love to see anyone call O'Neill a coward to his face His background has sod all to do with this. His approach this season has been appalling. We didn't need to go so defensive. Last season under him we were generally fine at the back. He's been very much like Pulis. He waited way too long to play all 3 of them. And still isn't using Collins correctly. And tbh Campbell should be used more up front now too, well if he was fit. Verlinden's attitude is fine too, that's just nonsense. Wow , you really do think you know better than anyone , what an arrogant narcissist you are
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2021 17:12:33 GMT
His background has sod all to do with this. His approach this season has been appalling. We didn't need to go so defensive. Last season under him we were generally fine at the back. He's been very much like Pulis. He waited way too long to play all 3 of them. And still isn't using Collins correctly. And tbh Campbell should be used more up front now too, well if he was fit. Verlinden's attitude is fine too, that's just nonsense. Wow , you really do think you know better than anyone , what an arrogant narcissist you are If you say so
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Jan 13, 2021 17:19:50 GMT
Wow , you really do think you know better than anyone , what an arrogant narcissist you are If you say so You need to retract your comment that MON is a ‘coward’. It’s completely unfair, disrespectful and, ultimately, not true. It also discredits you as an analytical poster, who I often disagree with but can accept that your views come from a good place. Using the word coward, though, is not befitting of someone who thinks people should take their views seriously.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 13, 2021 17:20:01 GMT
There's a lot of talk on here about the potential of these young players if we were to get promoted. I think the Prem. is a totally different scene to the Championship and we would have to buy a shed load of quality players to survive. Only Souttar, Collins, and Bursik have shown signs of potential to step up to that level. Equally important is developing a core of players who have "DNA" like Pulis's team to dig out results. How many of our players were prem quality when we got promoted in 2008? Ricardo - that’s about it isn’t it? We don’t have to worry about prem players yet. We worry about that when we’re good enough to eventually get out of this league.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2021 17:24:10 GMT
If you say so You need to retract your comment that MON is a ‘coward’. It’s completely unfair, disrespectful and, ultimately, not true. It also discredits you as an analytical poster, who I often disagree with but can accept that your views come from a good place. Using the word coward, though, is not befitting of someone who thinks people should take their views seriously. I don't get why people are arsed tbh. I said it months ago. And I mean simply in footballing terms. I couldn't give a shit about him personally. I will never not think the football we have been playing recently is cowardly. It is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 17:36:55 GMT
Bayern in "spouting absolute arse gravy" shocker.
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Post by comeonstokeee on Jan 13, 2021 17:43:00 GMT
Bayern hasn't got a pissing clue, if it wasn't for O'Neill we'd be playing Swindon Town in league one, get behind him and it will pay off
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 13, 2021 17:43:45 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of! You'd imagine he must be off, I mean you're not going to hang around for the next U23 game are you?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2021 17:52:04 GMT
Bayern hasn't got a pissing clue, if it wasn't for O'Neill we'd be playing Swindon Town in league one, get behind him and it will pay off I think he’s a good manager 🤦♂️😂
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 13, 2021 17:58:24 GMT
There's a lot of talk on here about the potential of these young players if we were to get promoted. I think the Prem. is a totally different scene to the Championship and we would have to buy a shed load of quality players to survive. Only Souttar, Collins, and Bursik have shown signs of potential to step up to that level. Equally important is developing a core of players who have "DNA" like Pulis's team to dig out results. Campbell? Very good question. I think he is real class at this level but wonder if he will be so good against Prem defences. He would need to not only get better but also last longer in games. He still gives me the impression he is done after 70 minutes. Getting anyone better will be very expensive. For example: Pukki is great at Championship level scoring better than once every two games, but at Prem level only 1 in 3. He is also a 90 minute player, which I'm not sure Campbell is. It also depends on service/team mates of course. I should have included Davies in my previous post, who I rate very highly.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 13, 2021 18:05:13 GMT
If you say so You need to retract your comment that MON is a ‘coward’. It’s completely unfair, disrespectful and, ultimately, not true. It also discredits you as an analytical poster, who I often disagree with but can accept that your views come from a good place. Using the word coward, though, is not befitting of someone who thinks people should take their views seriously. Good Grief! I absolutely disagree with Bayern's comment, but it's what he (wrongly) thinks. The world is spiraling into an absolutely pathetic mess where people are expected to only say what we want them to say. Bayern should be called out and told that he's a dimwit, but can we please stop trying to police everything anyone says if it doesn't agree with our point of view? Kick it out! Narcissism that is!
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Post by biglad180 on Jan 13, 2021 18:19:48 GMT
I wonder if spurs would like take wimmer back as part of the loan deal.they can keep him
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 13, 2021 21:56:44 GMT
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Post by Linx on Jan 13, 2021 22:51:46 GMT
I wonder if spurs would like take wimmer back as part of the loan deal.they can keep him I’m old enough to remember Gerry McMahon, who along with Palacios and Wimmer rate as amongst the worst players we got from Spurs. And Mr Levy always makes us pay top dollar as well. Crouch went some way to redeeming our dismal record of transactions with Spurs, and Oakley-Booth looks like he has potential.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 13, 2021 23:04:46 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of! You'd imagine he must be off, I mean you're not going to hang around for the next U23 game are you? He's got thousands of reasons to hang about.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 13, 2021 23:25:07 GMT
Ince must be looking even more miserable than he thought he was capable of! Thought? Ince?
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