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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 28, 2020 19:10:30 GMT
Deserves all our support and the chance to rebuild his career and life , has to be on merit but he wouldn’t want it any other way abc he just needs some love and patience and he’s easily good enough in this league
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2020 19:16:25 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 28, 2020 19:32:39 GMT
One thing we have to remember is that his record at this level isn't fantastic and 13 is the most he's managed in a season What? More then any of our strikers have scored in this league?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 19:43:14 GMT
One thing we have to remember is that his record at this level isn't fantastic and 13 is the most he's managed in a season What? More then any of our strikers have scored in this league? And it was in 21 games......
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 28, 2020 19:45:19 GMT
What? More then any of our strikers have scored in this league? And it was in 21 games...... I would take 13 from any forward now!
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Post by Pirate on Jul 28, 2020 20:11:04 GMT
Given the upturn in many players performances under MON as apposed to his 2 predecessors there has to be a decent argument for him to get a chance to impress.
As MON has mentioned the club made a decent investment in him & it would appear he isn't a bad egg.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 28, 2020 20:24:52 GMT
It's a long time since Afobe scored regularly.
He will have to improve a lot to impress me. What we saw of him never justied his fee.
There definitely seemed to be an attitude problem to me, judging by his lack of effort, and body language, but that can be deceptive.
Clearly Jones had a problem managing him and he shipped him out. I would have a lot more confidence in MON managing him whether it be "putting an arm round him" or a "kick up the backside".
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Post by slicko on Jul 28, 2020 20:37:09 GMT
His full name is Benik Tunani Afobe.
Needs to make his mind up if he’s a powerful tidal uprising or a damp female orifice.
That’s all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 20:59:48 GMT
One thing we have to remember is that his record at this level isn't fantastic and 13 is the most he's managed in a season What? More then any of our strikers have scored in this league? Yep But he did in 1 season...not regularly Nothing to suggest he'll do it again.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 28, 2020 21:10:42 GMT
I would like to see how MON would try to get the best out of him. One thing is for sure, we are creating more chances under MON so It will be interesting for sure. Would like to see him play in a two with a Cosgrove type.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 21:23:29 GMT
I would like to see how MON would try to get the best out of him. One thing is for sure, we are creating more chances under MON so It will be interesting for sure. Would like to see him play in a two with a Cosgrove type. Need options in this division and no harm in having 3 or 4 to pick from. You can see under MON that Vokes did make a difference in many games he came on in, like him or not. Gives us that extra option when not working or need to just change things. Having Afobe, starter or not will gives us that. He's different from what we have
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Post by jeycov on Jul 28, 2020 21:26:18 GMT
More compact season (even without further possible disruptions) , more midweek games more players will be used from the squad
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 28, 2020 21:27:08 GMT
I would like to see how MON would try to get the best out of him. One thing is for sure, we are creating more chances under MON so It will be interesting for sure. Would like to see him play in a two with a Cosgrove type. Need options in this division and no harm in having 3 or 4 to pick from. You can see under MON that Vokes did make a difference in many games he came on in, like him or not. Gives us that extra option when not working or need to just change things. Having Afobe, starter or not will gives us that. He's different from what we have Agreed. When you look at how MON’s teams are able to manage a game without the ball and are able to sit in and defend someone with Beniks speed would certainly be useful on the counter. Him and Tyrese would be a nightmare to defend against in that situation.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 28, 2020 22:40:00 GMT
He’s scored more than 10 in a season once and that was split between league one and the championship. No he hasn't. He scored 32 goals in 14/15 for MK Dons/Wolves He scored 14 goals in 15/16 for Wolves/Bournemouth 23 goals i was only counting league goals. I accept I missed the 15/16 season but this has happened twice in a career spanning nearly 10 seasons now. The fact is he’s reached double figures at this level once and it was five years ago. Nobody will ever convince me that he’s a proven goalscorer because he simply isn’t.
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Post by hotpot on Jul 29, 2020 1:30:50 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 3:44:53 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough. The manager has made clear he wants to "recruit" Afobe for his own squad. So clearly your wish won't be met. Your wish and mine, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 4:28:43 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough. To who? I doubt many clubs will be splashing 5 odd million quid at our level in the current climate
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 29, 2020 7:11:22 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough. Who would pay him the wages he is on? Would you give up a long term highly paid contract to move? I'm afraid like others on the books, we are stuck with him. So either use him or loan him. I suspect MON is offering him the chance to get his act together, and, if that doesn't happen, he will be loaned out to the best offer before the end of the transfer window in October.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 29, 2020 10:21:24 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough. Listening to MON's press conference it sounds like he wants him here. There might be baggage here but I don't think he will be giving up on Afobe easily. When we look at Vokes, Campbell and Gregory MON got a tune out of all of them, if he can do the same for Afobe we will have good options up front and they are all different types of players. We have plenty of options up front for now, we need to sort out the midfield and defence and goalkeeping issues. If we sign a striker it will be because the club feel they have found a gem you would think. Playing with no fans for a few games could be good for Afobe just to keep the fans off his back for a bit, if he starts the season well we could be looking at a 15-20 goal striker. You would hope Campbell could get a similar return next season too. Vokes capable of 10-15 and Gregory 10 goals.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 29, 2020 11:33:00 GMT
Sell him. There is no choice. MON deserves to recruit his own squad and get rid of the extra baggage once and for all. Enough is enough. The last thing we need now is a squad overhaul - and O'Neill has already said he sees the current squad as core to his plans for next season. We started the last 2 seasons slowly because we made major changes to personnel and playing style - with a truncated preseason yet another major overhaul would give no time to get the newcomers to gel and would kill all the momentum we've built up since Xmas. The problem we have isn't poor players - we have one of the better squads in this league. The problem is the players we have have under performed and not functioned as a team. For the first time in about 3 years we are starting to play as an effective unit. Afobe is a decent striker at this level and O'Neill has already shown he can get the best out of the players he has available. If O'Neill wants Afobe then the best thing we can do is get behind the lad rather than get on his back.
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Post by sd22 on Jul 29, 2020 11:36:57 GMT
Would love to see this 352 come to fruition with Afobe and Campbell up top, Allen and Clucas in the two in midfield either side of Powell who would get forward. Maybe if Edwards sorts his attitude out, that Rwb spot could be his, and if Tymon replicates his Forest performance, the lwb spot for him.
Develop Collins and have another speedy centre half (left footed) either side of a destroyer of a cb, Davies as keeper and we’re golden.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2020 16:25:20 GMT
Interesting to see what he does with Afobe.
Certainly he's conclusively no lone striker, is he? We know that only too well.
Wonder if he may yet still depart before October? (on big money and out of contract next summer)
He'd obviously be better as part of a two - but would he feature in our best partnership?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 22, 2020 18:43:43 GMT
Bravo Gary Rowett for spunking 13 million om him. Rowett has to go down as the worst manager we've had
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 22, 2020 18:53:52 GMT
He needs games and coming off the back of that injury will take ages. I recall Shearer saying when he did his ACL, although he was fit it took several months to pick up the pace and touch. Now I fully accept Benik is starting from a far lower level than Shearer and will never be the striker he was, but it’s a bit harsh to be so critical this soon.
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 19:03:19 GMT
I still have a feeling he will be loaned to Brizzle....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 19:04:37 GMT
Bravo Gary Rowett for spunking 13 million om him. Rowett has to go down as the worst manager we've had Pound for pound by quite some distance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 19:09:15 GMT
Bravo Gary Rowett for spunking 13 million om him. Rowett has to go down as the worst manager we've had Pound for pound by quite some distance. I don’t think Jones can really be beaten to be honest. Rowett is there because he wasted so much money and delivered so little. But Jones’ record was just amazingly bad!
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Post by dudnostokie on Aug 22, 2020 19:10:32 GMT
I really feel for Benik after all he's been through with his daughter and injury.
The problem is, like Tyrese he needs to be part of a front two, someone like Vokes who can win the aerial battles and nod it on, or just to hold up the ball. Which is all well and good, except we have Tyrese who is younger, quicker, trickier, and from what I've seen is a better finisher.
If we didn't have Tyrese it wouldn't be an issue. It's not a problem if Benik is used as cover, I just can't see him wanting to be utilised that way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 19:21:20 GMT
The “Benik experiment” might simply have been a way of getting him to work harder and run more up front on his own rather than being part of a front two, he’s had less game time as he hardly played back end of the season for Bristol City.
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Post by dudnostokie on Aug 22, 2020 19:24:24 GMT
The “Benik experiment” might simply have been a way of getting him to work harder and run more up front on his own rather than being part of a front two, he’s had less game time as he hardly played back end of the season for Bristol City. Interesting idea mate, not one that I'd considered at all. I guess we have a few more friendlies and a competitive game next weekend to see what happens. For what it's worth I would love for Benik to come through for us (and him).
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