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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 25, 2020 12:04:50 GMT
If he’s on the 30-35k a week he’s supposed to be on then he needs leave. Why should he if nobody else will pay him that much in wages? Im obviously talking from the clubs point of view.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 25, 2020 16:12:51 GMT
In a front 2, like we played the last couple of games in the season, he'd score a few goals for us I'm sure. On his own? not a chance. Again, a lot depends on how we intend to line up next season and the involvement of Tyrese both in terms of minutes and positionally. His best partner in a 2 would probably be Gregory (not that I want either to stay)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 25, 2020 17:17:30 GMT
All of you guys are forgetting a really important and not easy to identify a fix issue. His two year old daughter died of an infection in December, is he in the right mental frame to come back and do damage for us? You could make an argument that Mame Diouf wasn't the same after his mum died in that stampede, these terrible events impact us in ways that we can't even imagine. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-chief-executive-provides-3933207He has proved to be a popular figure around the Failand training ground. Lee Johnson has praised his positive energy around the club, and said before the loss to West Brom in February: "He's been a positive supporter of the boys and of course it'd be great to see him, and even better out on the grass and hopefully on the pitch in the not too distant future." And defender/midfielder Tommy Rowe also praised his impact since his return to training. He said: "My personal opinion is that he just loves to play football, he's infectious and so enthusiastic around the place. If you're talking to him about anything he brings up some sort of football anyway, which is such a great habit. "He's also there for advice and I'm sure he's talking to the other strikers, encouraging them that it [form] will turn and we'll soon be back to winning ways and a good position."
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 25, 2020 18:01:41 GMT
It would be interesting to see how Afobe would perform under MON, he deserves a clean slate and the chance to win the fans over under a proper manager if he remains here.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 26, 2020 8:23:19 GMT
A fit and firing Afobe and Campbell could be lethal and a really joy to watch.
I’m not convinced Afobe has a footballing brain, a lot of the time he simply can’t read the flight of the ball. He waits for it to bounce and the presses.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 26, 2020 9:05:27 GMT
A fit and firing Afobe and Campbell could be lethal and a really joy to watch. I’m not convinced Afobe has a footballing brain, a lot of the time he simply can’t read the flight of the ball. He waits for it to bounce and the presses. Not sure how your first sentence is supported by your second 🤔
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2020 9:16:42 GMT
All of you guys are forgetting a really important and not easy to identify a fix issue. His two year old daughter died of an infection in December, is he in the right mental frame to come back and do damage for us? You could make an argument that Mame Diouf wasn't the same after his mum died in that stampede, these terrible events impact us in ways that we can't even imagine. Hang on, after Diouf’s tragedy didn’t he come back, get hung to dry at right back a position he’d never played in and as far removed as to his natural position and put in performances that could easily form the argument that he was the best right back we had in the PL?
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 26, 2020 10:01:10 GMT
A fit and firing Afobe and Campbell could be lethal and a really joy to watch. I’m not convinced Afobe has a footballing brain, a lot of the time he simply can’t read the flight of the ball. He waits for it to bounce and the presses. Not sure how your first sentence is supported by your second 🤔 I think he’s a really good finisher. Rest of his game leaves some what to be desired.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 26, 2020 10:04:56 GMT
A fit and firing Afobe and Campbell could be lethal and a really joy to watch. I’m not convinced Afobe has a footballing brain, a lot of the time he simply can’t read the flight of the ball. He waits for it to bounce and the presses. Not sure how your first sentence is supported by your second 🤔 Slightly contradictory😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 19:50:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 20:51:23 GMT
All of you guys are forgetting a really important and not easy to identify a fix issue. His two year old daughter died of an infection in December, is he in the right mental frame to come back and do damage for us? You could make an argument that Mame Diouf wasn't the same after his mum died in that stampede, these terrible events impact us in ways that we can't even imagine. Hang on, after Diouf’s tragedy didn’t he come back, get hung to dry at right back a position he’d never played in and as far removed as to his natural position and put in performances that could easily form the argument that he was the best right back we had in the PL? He played up top as well and wasn't good enough .
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 26, 2020 20:56:03 GMT
It's one of those where O'Neill will have to sit down with him and see where his head is. He's got pedigree in this division and he is a dangerous striker when played to his strength which is playing on the shoulder of the last defender and running onto through balls. O'Neill made the right decisions with Badou and Etebo so I'll trust him to make the right decision here.
He won't be going anywhere, his 35k wages will put off any buyers so it'll be another loan to a fellow Championship club if he goes anywhere. If he's motivated and willing to try again at the club, and we find a way of incorporating him better into the team under a better manager he could be like a new signing. For me I think we'd be daft not to give him another go unless he makes it clear behind the scenes that he wants out. Or we desperately need to cut costs and loaning him out again is seen as better than keeping him from a financial perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 20:58:11 GMT
It's one of those where O'Neill will have to sit down with him and see where his head is. He's got pedigree in this division and he is a dangerous striker when played to his strength which is playing on the shoulder of the last defender and running onto through balls. He won't be going anywhere, his 35k wages will put off any buyers so it'll be another loan to a fellow Championship club if he goes anywhere. If he's motivated and willing to try again at the club, and we find a way of incorporating him better into the team under a better manager he could be like a new signing. For me I think we'd be daft not to give him another go unless he makes it clear behind the scenes that he wants out. Or we desperately need to cut costs and loaning him out again is seen as better than keeping him from a financial perspective. Didn't MON comment on him recently , hinting he would be here next season or did I dream that...along with the erotic soapy massage with Vanessa Mae and Roland from Grange Hill
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 20:59:23 GMT
I think MON can get the best out of him. If he’s up for it, I’d fully include him in pre season
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 26, 2020 21:01:24 GMT
Hang on, after Diouf’s tragedy didn’t he come back, get hung to dry at right back a position he’d never played in and as far removed as to his natural position and put in performances that could easily form the argument that he was the best right back we had in the PL? He played up top as well and wasn't good enough . He was always an unreliable footballer but had the heart of a lion.. definitely earned his keep as a striker for a couple of seasons, it must be said. Him over the Hughes wet dream that was Berahino all day long. That said given our established premier league status we really should have managed some sort of replacement. Hindsight is a real bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 21:09:15 GMT
He played up top as well and wasn't good enough . He was always an unreliable footballer but had the heart of a lion.. definitely earned his keep as a striker for a couple of seasons, it must be said. Him over the Hughes wet dream that was Berahino all day long. That said given our established premier league status we really should have managed some sort of replacement. Hindsight is a real bitch. Absolutely, can remember the outcry on here for Hughes to get Bony and the ...don't mess up it Hughes etc comments when was 50/50 he'd come. Diouf was never going to repeat his good season no matter which way you butter it up. Shame as seemed a good guy
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 26, 2020 21:10:56 GMT
Does that mean he won’t be doing any celebrating when he bangs in a hat trick for us against them next season? BM
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2020 21:16:33 GMT
Hang on, after Diouf’s tragedy didn’t he come back, get hung to dry at right back a position he’d never played in and as far removed as to his natural position and put in performances that could easily form the argument that he was the best right back we had in the PL? He played up top as well and wasn't good enough . He was more than good enough.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 26, 2020 21:29:49 GMT
interesting combo of him an Campbell up front
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 21:31:09 GMT
He played up top as well and wasn't good enough . He was more than good enough. Which he wasn't and why he couldn't hold his place when he had the opportunity.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 26, 2020 21:37:05 GMT
Bournemouth might come in for him now. He did well for them before going to Wolves.
BM
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2020 21:42:57 GMT
He was more than good enough. Which he wasn't and why he couldn't hold his place when he had the opportunity. Diouf has been criminally used in his time here. The only reason he couldn't hold his place was down to bad management.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 26, 2020 22:26:24 GMT
No one will want to spend money on him.
I don't think we'll sign a striker, I think o'neill and his team just needs to work with him and improve him as they have with other players here, and get some goals out of him.
I think we'll go with Campbell, Vokes and Afobe vying for the striker role, there's not much wrong with that choice.
It's defensive midfield, left back, centre back,keeper, and out wide we need to address
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 26, 2020 22:30:18 GMT
Bournemouth might come in for him now. He did well for them before going to Wolves. BM Wasn't he a bit of a flop there and was bought for big money from Wolves but never really hit it off? Hence being loaned back to Championship Wolves and then after their promotion and whatever happened with his sale to Wolves and then instant sale to us, he was back in the Championship with us?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 4:07:08 GMT
Bournemouth might come in for him now. He did well for them before going to Wolves. BM Wasn't he a bit of a flop there and was bought for big money from Wolves but never really hit it off? Hence being loaned back to Championship Wolves and then after their promotion and whatever happened with his sale to Wolves and then instant sale to us, he was back in the Championship with us? Eddie Howe is a fan and spoke highly when he signed him before but he did ok, no more there
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Post by jeycov on Jul 27, 2020 8:32:26 GMT
Wasn't he a bit of a flop there and was bought for big money from Wolves but never really hit it off? Hence being loaned back to Championship Wolves and then after their promotion and whatever happened with his sale to Wolves and then instant sale to us, he was back in the Championship with us? Eddie Howe is a fan and spoke highly when he signed him before but he did ok, no more there Will Eddie Howe still be at Bournemouth 🤔
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 27, 2020 8:56:16 GMT
Wasn't he a bit of a flop there and was bought for big money from Wolves but never really hit it off? Hence being loaned back to Championship Wolves and then after their promotion and whatever happened with his sale to Wolves and then instant sale to us, he was back in the Championship with us? Eddie Howe is a fan and spoke highly when he signed him before but he did ok, no more there Nathan Jones spoke highly of Jordan Cousins when he signed for us
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Post by jeycov on Jul 27, 2020 9:26:35 GMT
No rush, let MON give Benik the opportunity to impress, both with his football and his desire to stay here I think he could fit our way of moving forward
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 27, 2020 10:15:45 GMT
No rush, let MON give Benik the opportunity to impress, both with his football and his desire to stay here I think he could fit our way of moving forward Precisely. MON has not even taken him for one minute of a training session yet. MON is intelligent enough to realise that he needs to evaluate how he performs when he returns for preseason in 2 weeks time. He'll need to sit down with the player and make a decision as to Benik's future in early September and not before. It would be great if MON can get Benik to play like the striker we hoped we were getting when we paid Wolves for him. His 3 goals in 5 games for Bristol City suggests there is still a decent player in there.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Jul 27, 2020 12:40:32 GMT
Wasn't he a bit of a flop there and was bought for big money from Wolves but never really hit it off? Hence being loaned back to Championship Wolves and then after their promotion and whatever happened with his sale to Wolves and then instant sale to us, he was back in the Championship with us? Eddie Howe is a fan and spoke highly when he signed him before but he did ok, no more there Howe may be a fan but I spoke with some Cherries fans last year on holiday and they said the fans wondered just what Howe had spent millions on, and were adamant Benik had a first touch woefully short of Premiership class and was a waste of money. I would definitely want to offer him another chance here, if he fancies it.
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