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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
Confidence must have taken a hit before he joined us I would like to see him given another chance Probably no crowds to intimidate him, or indeed anyone else who has a bad game will help Given what has happened to him in his personal life, any supporter who feels the need to barrack him should have a look at themselves. We used to be an excellent dog's home for waywards and strays. Nowadays we're the abusive owner which leads to them being put in the dogshome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 17:06:25 GMT
8 goals in 46 appearances for us not great although I'd give him another shot under MON. I think he would work well pushing for the main role vs Vokes. Campbell and McClean coming off the flanks to support and get on any hoofball, him running on for anything Powell can feed through otherwise. It would definitely give us another element. Much rather Afobe than Gregory.
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Post by neddy on Jul 8, 2020 17:14:43 GMT
Sub tonight....
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jul 9, 2020 14:14:25 GMT
Got the young Dutch lad striker who's banging em in for us in reserves /youth team haven't we? Get him on the bench and professional contract 👍 Can't until he is 16 And then we will be lucky to keep him Isn't he 16 next season?.
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Post by lordb on Jul 9, 2020 14:44:24 GMT
Can't until he is 16 And then we will be lucky to keep him Isn't he 16 next season?. Just checked... he's already 16! If we are very lucky and he stays with Stoke then having him in the pool of first team strikers could work.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 9, 2020 14:59:01 GMT
Isn't he 16 next season?. Just checked... he's already 16! If we are very lucky and he stays with Stoke then having him in the pool of first team strikers could work. With the clubs sniffing around him Chelsea, Spurs, Atletico etc I find it hard imagining him turning out for us...it’s fucking tragic in fact.
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Post by pez75 on Jul 9, 2020 15:02:30 GMT
Confidence must have taken a hit before he joined us I would like to see him given another chance Probably no crowds to intimidate him, or indeed anyone else who has a bad game will help Given what has happened to him in his personal life, any supporter who feels the need to barrack him should have a look at themselves. We used to be an excellent dog's home for waywards and strays. Not sure I have ever heard Afobe 'barracked' by our fans, but any jeers or moans he may have had will be purely based on his poor play and application I am sure.
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Post by Miles Offside on Jul 9, 2020 15:38:55 GMT
Out of all the expensive misfits we've got hanging like a millstone around our necks, Afobe is the only one worth having back for another chance under MON.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 24, 2020 19:08:07 GMT
Any news on Benik?
Got the sense he was wanting to make his move to Bristol permanent, but MON wants him here.
Always felt the fans got on his back a little too easily, particularly in the first game of the season when he miscontrolled from a long ball and got absolute pelters from the Boothen. Appreciate the frustration but it was undeserved.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jul 24, 2020 19:12:52 GMT
Said it all along, play him to his strengths and he'll score us goals.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 24, 2020 19:14:39 GMT
Any news on Benik? Got the sense he was wanting to make his move to Bristol permanent, but MON wants him here. Always felt the fans got on his back a little too easily, particularly in the first game of the season when he miscontrolled from a long ball and got absolute pelters from the Boothen. Appreciate the frustration but it was undeserved. Got to think he'll at least be back for pre-season now Johnson has got the chop at Bristol City. Can't see there being a queue for him at several million, especially post-Corona, coming off a cruciate with not much form behind him - and on big bucks. If he's up for it and looking the part, presumably he'll stay for the season if MON thinks he can get proper minutes here But if not, maybe we'll look to loan him out to save a bit of cash. There's a decent chance he's out of contract next summer too (don't think it was ever confirmed how long a deal he signed) , so maybe that complicates things a bit
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 24, 2020 19:27:48 GMT
If the Messiah wants to give him a chance who am I to argue. A proven championship striker. Hopefully he’s over his serious injury and can impress before we kick off the new season
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Post by lordb on Jul 24, 2020 19:29:19 GMT
I can't stand footballers who have no idea of what's going on.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 24, 2020 19:38:49 GMT
If he’s on the 30-35k a week he’s supposed to be on then he needs leave.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 24, 2020 20:35:58 GMT
Scored 22 goals for Wolves 4 seasons ago. Done nothing much since.
I will never forget him coming on at Hull and he was totally disinterested in playing. I was disgusted. I'm not surprised he was shipped out.
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Post by neddy on Jul 24, 2020 20:38:20 GMT
Given his and others wages that’s why we have to do deals we can to get rid of anybody someone will take like Woods!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 24, 2020 21:39:58 GMT
Any news on Benik? Got the sense he was wanting to make his move to Bristol permanent, but MON wants him here. Always felt the fans got on his back a little too easily, particularly in the first game of the season when he miscontrolled from a long ball and got absolute pelters from the Boothen. Appreciate the frustration but it was undeserved. Got to think he'll at least be back for pre-season now Johnson has got the chop at Bristol City. Can't see there being a queue for him at several million, especially post-Corona, coming off a cruciate with not much form behind him - and on big bucks.If he's up for it and looking the part, presumably he'll stay for the season if MON thinks he can get proper minutes here But if not, maybe we'll look to loan him out to save a bit of cash. There's a decent chance he's out of contract next summer too (don't think it was ever confirmed how long a deal he signed) , so maybe that complicates things a bit That's one hell of a reference. There's only one club who'd be interested in signing that guy and it's us!
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Jul 24, 2020 22:13:46 GMT
If you take a look at his goal scoring return it isn’t that great, the last time he hit double figures In the league was the 2014-2015 season. Maybe Michael O’Neil could get the best out of him. Give him a full pre season and see how sharp he is looking.
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Post by werrington on Jul 25, 2020 6:04:00 GMT
If he’s on the 30-35k a week he’s supposed to be on then he needs leave. Why should he if nobody else will pay him that much in wages?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 25, 2020 6:11:55 GMT
Not wanted on our voyage to the Prem.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 6:20:39 GMT
Scored 22 goals for Wolves 4 seasons ago. Done nothing much since. I will never forget him coming on at Hull and he was totally disinterested in playing. I was disgusted. I'm not surprised he was shipped out. That wasn't just at Hull.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jul 25, 2020 6:51:03 GMT
I agree that Benik looked disinterested in a number of games. What I don’t get is why Vokes doesn’t get the same treatment when his levels of interest are exactly the same. We’ve had many games where Vokes trundles around the pitch losing every header that makes its way to him and his goalscoring record is nearly identical.
If anything I’d say Afobe can score a wider range of goals (anecdotal I admit). I also suspect they’re on similar money, again no real evidence of this but you could see why I’d state this.
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Post by ed5993 on Jul 25, 2020 7:04:44 GMT
I firmly believe, if given the chance, he would score goals in this MoN side.
I think Vokes is also a good example of that, but I think Benik could offer even more.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 25, 2020 8:00:07 GMT
Comparing Afobe and Vokes is a bit "apples and pears".
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 25, 2020 8:08:39 GMT
I think You would see a different Afobe to the one who played under Jones.
In my opinion Jones never used Afobe and others in their correct way, since MoN took over Allen, McClean, Powell, Cousins and Clucas have all looked far superior and to a lesser degree Gregory than previously and that has to be the manager
I’m sure utilized correctly Benik could bang the goals in
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 25, 2020 9:28:45 GMT
I agree that Benik looked disinterested in a number of games. What I don’t get is why Vokes doesn’t get the same treatment when his levels of interest are exactly the same. We’ve had many games where Vokes trundles around the pitch losing every header that makes its way to him and his goalscoring record is nearly identical. If anything I’d say Afobe can score a wider range of goals (anecdotal I admit). I also suspect they’re on similar money, again no real evidence of this but you could see why I’d state this. I think Vokes came out of lock down much fitter than he went in, which cannot be said for all our players. In the games since lock down he has been far more involved, interested and mobile. If Afobe came back with that same attitude and fitness (of Vokes) then he would hopefully show us the player we all thought he might be. Of the two I think Afobe is the better player but Vokes is the one who has shown the appetite and work rate...time will tell
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Post by gerbil on Jul 25, 2020 9:52:08 GMT
I'm surprised Afobe came here at first. His best friend is none other than our little friend Jack Wilshire. In fact he is Godfather to his son. I suppose money does talk
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2020 9:57:25 GMT
In a front 2, like we played the last couple of games in the season, he'd score a few goals for us I'm sure. On his own? not a chance. Again, a lot depends on how we intend to line up next season and the involvement of Tyrese both in terms of minutes and positionally.
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Post by lordb on Jul 25, 2020 10:19:42 GMT
I agree that Benik looked disinterested in a number of games. What I don’t get is why Vokes doesn’t get the same treatment when his levels of interest are exactly the same. We’ve had many games where Vokes trundles around the pitch losing every header that makes its way to him and his goalscoring record is nearly identical. If anything I’d say Afobe can score a wider range of goals (anecdotal I admit). I also suspect they’re on similar money, again no real evidence of this but you could see why I’d state this. I think Vokes came out of lock down much fitter than he went in, which cannot be said for all our players. In the games since lock down he has been far more involved, interested and mobile. If Afobe came back with that same attitude and fitness (of Vokes) then he would hopefully show us the player we all thought he might be. Of the two I think Afobe is the better player but Vokes is the one who has shown the appetite and work rate...time will tell Afobe looked really fit and sharp this time last year Bottom line is he doesn't understand how to play centre forward. Doesn't matter how good his attitude is he just doesn't get it. Maybe he can play wide in 433
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 10:24:43 GMT
All of you guys are forgetting a really important and not easy to identify a fix issue. His two year old daughter died of an infection in December, is he in the right mental frame to come back and do damage for us? You could make an argument that Mame Diouf wasn't the same after his mum died in that stampede, these terrible events impact us in ways that we can't even imagine.
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