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Post by lordb on Jan 4, 2020 0:00:36 GMT
There’s a tailor-made ode to the tune of Jimmy Mack by Martha and the vandellas in tribute of Jimmy but I'm fucked if I can figure out the lyrics. Maybe for the best. Jimmy oh Jimmy Oh Jimmy Mac, you can't play left back! Jimmy Jimmy by the Undertones might be more apt
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 4, 2020 10:20:53 GMT
Jimmy oh Jimmy Oh Jimmy Mac, you can't play left back! Jimmy Jimmy by the Undertones might be more apt Ohhhhhhhhhhh!
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Jan 4, 2020 12:58:56 GMT
Post by marylandstoke on Jan 4, 2020 12:58:56 GMT
I really think some posters believe the players read this board. Some players do. Some managers did as well. I know of at least one players wife who has said she reads it.
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Jan 4, 2020 13:07:27 GMT
Post by marylandstoke on Jan 4, 2020 13:07:27 GMT
Just a quick thought for home games, at least.
When their fans start chanting the IRA stuff could we not out sing them with the same two word opening and their teams name? Recent example...F the Wednesday fans.
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Jan 4, 2020 13:18:39 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 4, 2020 13:18:39 GMT
Some players do. Some managers did as well. I know of at least one players wife who has said she reads it. Who ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2020 13:23:40 GMT
I know of at least one players wife who has said she reads it. Who ? Mrs shawcross.
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Post by neckender78 on Jan 4, 2020 14:06:44 GMT
Where is the support for Tom Ince at every corner when he is subjected to chants of your dads a cunt and so are you every game by certain opposition fans? What actual alleged sectarian abuse was Jimmy subjected to? Fuck the IRA - Can he be offended by that? A fenian so and so - He promotes himself as a proud fenian (the brotherhood that eventually became the IRA). Let's not be virtue signallers we abuse plenty of opposition players. The abuse ince gets is more personal. Jimmy thrives on attention to make it about him and his beliefs. Thousands of people in Britain have the right to disagree with his beliefs Both are wank players who cost us a fortune in fees and wages and we have sat in the relegation zone all season with these a main part of the team contributing fuck all most games. Both should never have been signed. I don't know how many times this has to be said...it was a sectarian war where more Irish Catholics were murdered than any other group. There was loss of life everywhere all of equal value no matter if Irish of what ever denomination, or British services . It was all shameful, including the behaviour of the British State...so if you don't want to take sides can I suggest you chant fuck the IRA, The UVF and the British State at James otherwise admit you are a bigot and support one side of murderers over another Agree with your first point the atrocities were shameful on all sides and horrendous loss of lives on both sides. But wind your neck in from then on where have I made comment on support of another side?? And you are trying to say I am a bigot. James has made comments that Martin McGuinness is his hero. He has quoted a convicted terrorist in a picture of him wearing our clubs shirt. Am sure his social media history would unearth other hardline Republican comments. Can you not understand some people will still have issue with him or are we only allowed one way of thinking? See you didn't respond on where is the support for Tom Ince on the abuse he gets. It's ok though as Jimmy is flavour of the month after a handful of decent performance in amongst 90% wank of the rest of his performances for us. So that's ok then
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Jan 4, 2020 15:20:32 GMT
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Post by franklin66 on Jan 4, 2020 15:20:32 GMT
Didn't she say publically she read the Oatie.
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Post by durbanscircus on Jan 7, 2020 11:31:27 GMT
I don't know how many times this has to be said...it was a sectarian war where more Irish Catholics were murdered than any other group. There was loss of life everywhere all of equal value no matter if Irish of what ever denomination, or British services . It was all shameful, including the behaviour of the British State...so if you don't want to take sides can I suggest you chant fuck the IRA, The UVF and the British State at James otherwise admit you are a bigot and support one side of murderers over another Agree with your first point the atrocities were shameful on all sides and horrendous loss of lives on both sides. But wind your neck in from then on where have I made comment on support of another side?? And you are trying to say I am a bigot. James has made comments that Martin McGuinness is his hero. He has quoted a convicted terrorist in a picture of him wearing our clubs shirt. Am sure his social media history would unearth other hardline Republican comments. Can you not understand some people will still have issue with him or are we only allowed one way of thinking? See you didn't respond on where is the support for Tom Ince on the abuse he gets. It's ok though as Jimmy is flavour of the month after a handful of decent performance in amongst 90% wank of the rest of his performances for us. So that's ok then Of course people can have an issue with his views...but its inappropriate to sing sectarian songs at a football match..thats the point - and I don't buy excuses like "well he can hardly complain can he" when its offensive to a vast number of people for reasons we have both noted
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Jan 7, 2020 12:17:19 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 7, 2020 12:17:19 GMT
Didn't she say publically she read the Oatie. Does she post?
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Post by RAF on Jan 7, 2020 21:32:50 GMT
Agree with your first point the atrocities were shameful on all sides and horrendous loss of lives on both sides. But wind your neck in from then on where have I made comment on support of another side?? And you are trying to say I am a bigot. James has made comments that Martin McGuinness is his hero. He has quoted a convicted terrorist in a picture of him wearing our clubs shirt. Am sure his social media history would unearth other hardline Republican comments. Can you not understand some people will still have issue with him or are we only allowed one way of thinking? See you didn't respond on where is the support for Tom Ince on the abuse he gets. It's ok though as Jimmy is flavour of the month after a handful of decent performance in amongst 90% wank of the rest of his performances for us. So that's ok then Of course people can have an issue with his views...but its inappropriate to sing sectarian songs at a football match..thats the point - and I don't buy excuses like "well he can hardly complain can he" when its offensive to a vast number of people for reasons we have both noted He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 7, 2020 22:19:28 GMT
Of course people can have an issue with his views...but its inappropriate to sing sectarian songs at a football match..thats the point - and I don't buy excuses like "well he can hardly complain can he" when its offensive to a vast number of people for reasons we have both noted He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H I don’t agree with his actions and I take issue with some of his comments. And yes he has brought his politics into football, however, the issue would never have arisen if the wearing of the poppy hadn’t transformed from an understated personal act of remembrance to something that seems to have become almost expected. If we’re going to criticise McLean for bringing his politics into football we should consider why it got to that point. The move to producing shirts with poppies on them was as much an action of bringing politics into football. And that wasn’t his choice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 22:56:16 GMT
Nmanja Matic also doesn’t wear a poppy - but nobody cares. Just like they shouldn’t with McClean.
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Jan 7, 2020 23:04:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2020 23:04:41 GMT
He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H I don’t agree with his actions and I take issue with some of his comments. And yes he has brought his politics into football, however, the issue would never have arisen if the wearing of the poppy hadn’t transformed from an understated personal act of remembrance to something that seems to have become almost expected. If we’re going to criticise McLean for bringing his politics into football we should consider why it got to that point. The move to producing shirts with poppies on them was as much an action of bringing politics into football. And that wasn’t his choice. That has nothing to do with the national anthem thing. Which was just unnecessary. The poppy thing I agree with.
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Jan 8, 2020 0:09:58 GMT
Post by skip on Jan 8, 2020 0:09:58 GMT
Two Stoke fans in the away end at Charlton earlier this season were having a complete meltdown every time he touched the ball. I swear I thought one was going to have a fucking seizure the way he was ranting, calling him a republican cunt and all sorts.
Lovely behaviour.
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Jan 8, 2020 10:09:26 GMT
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Post by franklin66 on Jan 8, 2020 10:09:26 GMT
Didn't she say publically she read the Oatie. Does she post? I suspect she's Bayern 🤷♂️
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Jan 8, 2020 11:26:26 GMT
Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 8, 2020 11:26:26 GMT
How times change. Remember the vile abuse that SCFC fans heaped on their own player after he signed from WBAFC?
And just remember the (sectarian) dog's abuse you lot gave him when he played against you?
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Post by kustokie on Jan 8, 2020 11:50:27 GMT
Didn't she say publically she read the Oatie. Does she post? She’s either Bayern or Benji
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 8, 2020 11:58:52 GMT
Two Stoke fans in the away end at Charlton earlier this season were having a complete meltdown every time he touched the ball. I swear I thought one was going to have a fucking seizure the way he was ranting, calling him a republican cunt and all sorts. Lovely behaviour. It would be nice to see how the gentleman in question would address him face to face.
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Post by skip on Jan 11, 2020 1:01:51 GMT
Two Stoke fans in the away end at Charlton earlier this season were having a complete meltdown every time he touched the ball. I swear I thought one was going to have a fucking seizure the way he was ranting, calling him a republican cunt and all sorts. Lovely behaviour. It would be nice to see how the gentleman in question would address him face to face. I'd've paid for a second ticket to see that.
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Jan 11, 2020 10:09:55 GMT
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Post by 3putts on Jan 11, 2020 10:09:55 GMT
Some players do. Some managers did as well. Which one's PM me. Gawd your naive
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Jan 11, 2020 12:33:53 GMT
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Post by pembo82 on Jan 11, 2020 12:33:53 GMT
I'm expecting a similar tannoy announcement at todays game.
The knuckle dragging millwall contingence are surely not going to be able to refrain.
Expect it to be a lot more than what was at Huddersfield
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Jan 11, 2020 13:01:37 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 11, 2020 13:01:37 GMT
Which one's PM me. Gawd your naive I am
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Post by scfconnor on Jan 11, 2020 13:08:34 GMT
Of course people can have an issue with his views...but its inappropriate to sing sectarian songs at a football match..thats the point - and I don't buy excuses like "well he can hardly complain can he" when its offensive to a vast number of people for reasons we have both noted He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H Not condoning anything or trying to take sides, but couldn't you argue that playing national anthems before kick off is already bringing politics into football?
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Post by pembo82 on Jan 11, 2020 13:34:06 GMT
The fact that innocent mainly teenagers were murdered and covered up and denied for years and he has a genuine reason to feel objected to supporting the British army. This is the same as if anyone knew someone that had been murdered and the killer had got off Scott free is actually not mentioned.
The actions on that day were horrific and actions of mindless individuals that don't deserve to be mentioned as someone that served in the British army
The abuse he is getting is given out by predominantly people that have had no experience of the troubles in Northern Ireland and some probably don't even know who the IRA are, and I would hazard a guess that they would definitely not know that there was a opposing paramilitary army that did the same atrocities.
The only people that I would not be annoyed at are anyone that was affected by either the IRA or the UVF/UVA who have a genuine reason.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 11, 2020 13:34:29 GMT
He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H Not condoning anything or trying to take sides, but couldn't you argue that playing national anthems before kick off is already bringing politics into football? Especially if they’re meaningless friendlies and players weren’t made aware of it beforehand.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:18:50 GMT
Post by Gifton on Jan 13, 2020 22:18:50 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 13, 2020 23:05:12 GMT
Of course people can have an issue with his views...but its inappropriate to sing sectarian songs at a football match..thats the point - and I don't buy excuses like "well he can hardly complain can he" when its offensive to a vast number of people for reasons we have both noted He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H Actually, he didn't. He faced forward in the same direction looking at the main stand as the line of players had done since they entered the playing area. He didn't turn 90 degrees as the others did when the anthems was played, but he didn't turn his back on anyone or anything. This was a friendly club match in the USA. Why on earth was the national anthem being played anyway in such a fixture ? WBA were not England. There was incidentally another (very popular) Stoke player who refused to stand for the national anthem but this went completely under the radar. If you quote someone you are indicating that you agree with that quote, not that you agree with everything else that person has ever said or done. Chanting at McLean about the IRA has nothing to do with football; fails to acknowledge that following the good Friday agreement 20+ years ago the provisional IRA and their counterparts on the unionist side have thankfully not pursued a violent solution or that throughout Irish history there have been different branches of the IRA with very different views on violence.
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Jan 13, 2020 23:07:42 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2020 23:07:42 GMT
I would imagine that every team we play will be charged at this rate and I’d imagine Millwall will be the latest team after last Saturday
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Jan 13, 2020 23:24:58 GMT
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Post by rawli on Jan 13, 2020 23:24:58 GMT
He turned his back on the National Anthem at a football match.He brought his politics into football, you can't have it both ways. H There was incidentally another (very popular) Stoke player who refused to stand for the national anthem but this went completely under the radar. Missed that. Who was it?
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