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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2020 19:41:17 GMT
He's young, has pace, he's a natural finisher and he has good pedigree. Equally importantly he has 5 goals in the last 10 senior matches. Excellent news
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Post by rawli on Jan 24, 2020 19:43:37 GMT
Great effort to get him to sign by all involved. A little word to his fuckwit of a father though... Nobody is interested in anything you have got to say, you were a dreadfully average footballer and you talk a right load of shit, so leave Twitter to the audience it is aimed at who are at least 20 years your junior, because a bloke of your age should know better, and the majority of the people who you are speaking to haven't got the first clue who you are, which perhaps isn't a bad thing otherwise they'd know that you were fucking shit. Wasn't desperately average. Won a league title with Arsenal and did well at Everton. As for his Twitter antics, he looked out for his son when the Welsh imbecile wouldn't play him and helped him get a long term contract. Would you do the same for your kids?
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 24, 2020 19:44:49 GMT
Surprised at the length of the deal . Kevin Campbell is sucking up to MON don't be fooled by that clown. I'm 50/50 as you simply can't argue on current form but I'm not convinced yet Just let's not forget that probably half of the posters on here were saying get rid he's bone idle, will never make it, lazy, etc etc . Hopefully a great signing today, but 2 1/2 years was ample. 2 1/2 years perhaps wasn't ample from his pov. I know mate, I get that. Just me being cautious. Prior to his equaliser against Wednesday he'd been called every name under the sun. You can't argue at his current form and maybe it's purely down to a regular run in the team. I'm firmly sat with splinters in my ass on this one
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2020 19:47:39 GMT
2 1/2 years perhaps wasn't ample from his pov. I know mate, I get that. Just me being cautious. Prior to his equaliser against Wednesday he'd been called every name under the sun. You can't argue at his current form and maybe it's purely down to a regular run in the team. I'm firmly sat with splinters in my ass on this one If it was 2.5 years he probably wouldn’t of signed mate
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Post by Davef on Jan 24, 2020 19:54:46 GMT
Most Academy players who've signed a new contract have done so for at least four years. Why the hell would we offer our most exciting prospect two and a half years?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 24, 2020 20:01:17 GMT
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 24, 2020 20:02:41 GMT
Great effort to get him to sign by all involved. A little word to his fuckwit of a father though... Nobody is interested in anything you have got to say, you were a dreadfully average footballer and you talk a right load of shit, so leave Twitter to the audience it is aimed at who are at least 20 years your junior, because a bloke of your age should know better, and the majority of the people who you are speaking to haven't got the first clue who you are, which perhaps isn't a bad thing otherwise they'd know that you were fucking shit. Have you seen what he's said today before pulling all that out of your backside? He also complimented Tony Scholes though.
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Post by Davef on Jan 24, 2020 20:32:57 GMT
Ouch!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 24, 2020 20:39:12 GMT
I wouldn't have been overly bothered if he did go, but I'm very happy he's signed up. At worst he should make us a nice bit of moolah, and best, who knows...
Loads to work on but huge potential.
It looks like even Kevin Campbell has rediscovered his brain cells.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 24, 2020 20:44:04 GMT
This says bucket loads about MON. Can you imagine him hanging around with Nath? Well done all involved.
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Post by tosh on Jan 24, 2020 21:01:07 GMT
Yes. I think this episode confirms that we may well have an exceptionally talented manager and man manager this time. He seems to have a gift for calmly talking to people, melting problems away, and quickly turning negativity into positivity. The recent turnaround in the players’ attitude and confidence evidences this and has been remarkable when you look back a few months.
Now he seems to have won Tyrese over, and succeeded in convincing Kevin Campbell that we are the best thing since sliced bread, whereas a few weeks ago he seemed to think we were pariahs and a bunch of racists!
Anybody who can do that has my respect anyway!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 24, 2020 21:11:36 GMT
Finally, someone who recognises Tony for what he is, a class act.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 24, 2020 21:19:15 GMT
Good bet for Championship top scorer next season.
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Post by senbonzakura on Jan 24, 2020 21:19:58 GMT
I think this may be an important sign.
From the outside Stoke must look like a bit of a basket case, how many times have we heard the term doing a Sunderland?
No one who isn't a Stoke fan would blame a player for jumping ship if a team in a better place came along (top flight football or genuine trophy challenges).
A neutral would say that all the teams rumoured to be interested in Tyrese are a better prospect than Stoke.
So why has a player who has the best opportunity to get out and go to what a neutral would say is better prospect and I would assume he would get paid well wherever he went stayed at Stoke?
Why would his father who has show open dislike for the club turn around and say "Don't go and play Infront of 60000, win championships and play in the Champions League, play for Stoke instead"?
I think this shows there must be a lot of optimism and confidence in the management and playing staff in the direction we are going.
Early days but we may have a very, very good manager on our hands here folks.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 24, 2020 21:20:23 GMT
Finally, someone who recognises Tony for what he is, a class act. Pizzas all round 😎
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 24, 2020 21:26:11 GMT
I think this may be an important sign. From the outside Stoke must look like a bit of a basket case, how many times have we heard the term doing a Sunderland? No one who isn't a Stoke fan would blame a player for jumping ship if a team in a better place came along (top flight football or genuine trophy challenges). A neutral would say that all the teams rumoured to be interested in Tyrese are a better prospect than Stoke. So why has a player who has the best opportunity to get out and go to what a neutral would say is better prospect and I would assume he would get paid well wherever he went stayed at Stoke? Why would his father who has show open dislike for the club turn around and say "Don't go and play Infront of 60000, win championships and play in the Champions League, play for Stoke instead"? I think this shows there must be a lot of optimism and confidence in the management and playing staff in the direction we are going. Early days but we may have a very, very good manager on our hands here folks. People outside Stoke know this isn't a Sunderland situation, and people who know about celtic and rangers know it isn't a simple and glorious life of winning championships and playing in the champions league.It's Tuesdays in front of 600 home fans at ross county, and getting smashed out of sight usually in your couple of games a season against elite opposition. Stoke will be on the way back under this manager and the signing reflects that.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 24, 2020 21:37:59 GMT
Not at all I try to be balance contrary to public opinion. O’Neil is doing. A much much better job than I gave hi credit for and that’s fair dues . Did make Me laugh that Scholes pinched the signing picture It would've been his fault had he gone to Rangers or Celtic for peanuts though wouldn't it? And of course, he sorts all the contracts out. Forgive me if I don’t recommend a civic parade he had done what he’s paid to do , once , and only because O’Neil changed the boys mind , Scholes was rescued here not the hero but like O’Neil if he does his job I’ve no reason not to amend my view but he’s a mountain of ineptitude and arrogance to climb , he best decision to date may well be O’Neil despite my reservations
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Post by neddy on Jan 24, 2020 21:41:10 GMT
It would've been his fault had he gone to Rangers or Celtic for peanuts though wouldn't it? And of course, he sorts all the contracts out. Forgive me if I don’t recommend a civic parade he had done what he’s paid to do , once , and only because O’Neil changed the boys mind , Scholes was rescued here not the hero but like O’Neil if he does his job I’ve no reason not to amend my view but he’s a mountain of ineptitude and arrogance to climb , he best decision to date may well be O’Neil despite my reservations I think probably Coates senior picked this manager?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2020 22:24:24 GMT
Congratulations to Tony Scholes for doing his job. Here's a £120K pension pot top up.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 24, 2020 22:33:15 GMT
This is a great signing for the club and another green shoots of recovery moment for Martin O'Neil. It really feels like finally we are starting to turn the corner and some better days could be ahead. Agree, but it's Michael!
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 24, 2020 22:33:20 GMT
I fucking love Michael O’Neill.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 24, 2020 22:45:39 GMT
Brilliant news this is and I'd say mainly down to Michael and his man management and the respect the players have for him already. Tyrese isn't the finished article yet but he has shown what he can do Infront of goal when he's had the chance and i think he is going to play a big part for us. The future is looking alot better now, well done Stoke for getting this sorted eventually.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2020 0:16:46 GMT
Great effort to get him to sign by all involved. A little word to his fuckwit of a father though... Nobody is interested in anything you have got to say, you were a dreadfully average footballer and you talk a right load of shit, so leave Twitter to the audience it is aimed at who are at least 20 years your junior, because a bloke of your age should know better, and the majority of the people who you are speaking to haven't got the first clue who you are, which perhaps isn't a bad thing otherwise they'd know that you were fucking shit. Wasn't desperately average. Won a league title with Arsenal and did well at Everton. As for his Twitter antics, he looked out for his son when the Welsh imbecile wouldn't play him and helped him get a long term contract. Would you do the same for your kids? I'm absolutely delighted that we've managed to tie Tyrese down to a new contract, something that I certainly wasn't expecting, credit to everybody involved in making it happen. Having said that, we really don't need a running commentary on twitter from his dad throughout the entirety of Tyrese's career. In the not too recent past he was acting like a right bell end and fine, yes he's happy with how things are going for his lad now but what happens if in (say) 18 months time when O'Neill drops him for a prolonged period of time and he starts up his negative twitter antics again? If we legitimise his use of twitter to commentate on his son now, then we also legitimise his use of twitter when he's not happy with how things are going. Imagine if every father of every player at Stoke City was doing the same, it'd be a complete nightmare for everybody involved. He really needs to keep his opinions to himself (bad and good), any manager at Stoke City (even the poor ones) deserve to be able to get on with doing their jobs, without a running commentary from the fathers of the individual players sticking their ore in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 1:19:10 GMT
Wasn't desperately average. Won a league title with Arsenal and did well at Everton. As for his Twitter antics, he looked out for his son when the Welsh imbecile wouldn't play him and helped him get a long term contract. Would you do the same for your kids? I'm absolutely delighted that we've managed to tie Tyrese down to a new contract, something that I certainly was expecting, credit to everybody involved in making it happen. Having said that, we really don't need a running commentary on twitter from his dad throughout the entirety of Tyrese's career. In the not too recent past he was acting like a right bell end and fine, yes he's happy with how things are going for his lad now but what happens if in (say) 18 months time when O'Neill drops him for a prolonged period of time and he starts up his negative twitter antics again? If we legitimise his use of twitter to commentate on his son now, then we also legitimise his use of twitter when he's not happy with how things are going. Imagine if every father of every player at Stoke City was doing the same, it'd be a complete nightmare for everybody involved. He really needs to keep his opinions to himself (bad and good), any manager at Stoke City (even the poor ones) deserve to be able to get on with doing their jobs, without a running commentary from the fathers of the individual players sticking their ore in. It really isn’t any different from any other father, apart from that he has more followers. He will moan and he will praise, in the end it makes absolutely no difference to anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 1:21:19 GMT
I am so happy that this has happened. If ever there was a statement about players’ positive relationships with O’Neill it was this. It’s been so long since I’ve been very happy with a manager at Stoke, thank you Mr O’Neill for correcting that.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 25, 2020 1:39:16 GMT
Wasn't desperately average. Won a league title with Arsenal and did well at Everton. As for his Twitter antics, he looked out for his son when the Welsh imbecile wouldn't play him and helped him get a long term contract. Would you do the same for your kids? I'm absolutely delighted that we've managed to tie Tyrese down to a new contract, something that I certainly was expecting, credit to everybody involved in making it happen. Having said that, we really don't need a running commentary on twitter from his dad throughout the entirety of Tyrese's career. In the not too recent past he was acting like a right bell end and fine, yes he's happy with how things are going for his lad now but what happens if in (say) 18 months time when O'Neill drops him for a prolonged period of time and he starts up his negative twitter antics again? If we legitimise his use of twitter to commentate on his son now, then we also legitimise his use of twitter when he's not happy with how things are going. Imagine if every father of every player at Stoke City was doing the same, it'd be a complete nightmare for everybody involved. He really needs to keep his opinions to himself (bad and good), any manager at Stoke City (even the poor ones) deserve to be able to get on with doing their jobs, without a running commentary from the fathers of the individual players sticking their ore in. I'm not sure I follow this. Who are you referring to when you say 'legitimise it". You mean re-posting it on here? There is a easy solution to that one really. You are kind of assuming that we are somehow forced to read his Dad's Twitter account. No-one has to read it or re-post it, and if you don't read it in what way is it significant? I don't quite understand why people on here are obsessed with his Twitter account. No-one knows what any footballer's Dad is saying to his son day in, day out, positive or negative and there is no evidence that other player's Dad's are any less active in their son's careers. It's only because its on Twitter and people get involved in reading the stuff which is largely inconsequential in the scheme of things ( as has been proved today) The fact is, he has a right to comment about his son's career on Twitter or wherever else, millions of people comment about their family' activities everyday and its not uncommon for Dad's to be proud and protective when it comes to their sons. It's just an opinion at the end of the day, one of millions on social media that are the equivalent of tomorrow's fish and chip paper. I think the reaction to his Dad's Twitter comments are way over the top and are given far too much credence.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2020 2:14:08 GMT
I'm absolutely delighted that we've managed to tie Tyrese down to a new contract, something that I certainly was expecting, credit to everybody involved in making it happen. Having said that, we really don't need a running commentary on twitter from his dad throughout the entirety of Tyrese's career. In the not too recent past he was acting like a right bell end and fine, yes he's happy with how things are going for his lad now but what happens if in (say) 18 months time when O'Neill drops him for a prolonged period of time and he starts up his negative twitter antics again? If we legitimise his use of twitter to commentate on his son now, then we also legitimise his use of twitter when he's not happy with how things are going. Imagine if every father of every player at Stoke City was doing the same, it'd be a complete nightmare for everybody involved. He really needs to keep his opinions to himself (bad and good), any manager at Stoke City (even the poor ones) deserve to be able to get on with doing their jobs, without a running commentary from the fathers of the individual players sticking their ore in. I'm not sure I follow this. Who are you referring to when you say 'legitimise it". You mean re-posting it on here? There is a easy solution to that one really. You are kind of assuming that we are somehow forced to read his Dad's Twitter account. No-one has to read it or re-post it, and if you don't read it in what way is it significant? I don't quite understand why people on here are obsessed with his Twitter account. No-one knows what any footballer's Dad is saying to his son day in, day out, positive or negative and there is no evidence that other player's Dad's are any less active in their son's careers. It's only because its on Twitter and people get involved in reading the stuff which is largely inconsequential in the scheme of things ( as has been proved today) The fact is, he has a right to comment about his son's career on Twitter or wherever else, millions of people comment about their family' activities everyday and its not uncommon for Dad's to be proud and protective when it comes to their sons. It's just an opinion at the end of the day, one of millions on social media that are the equivalent of tomorrow's fish and chip paper. I think the reaction to his Dad's Twitter comments are way over the top and are given far too much credence. Seriously? It's right here, on this very page, of this very thread. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/post/6716154/threadWe can't have it both ways. And no he doesn't have the right to publicly (and that's the important bit) undermine the club and it's management, when he doesn't feel things are working for him and his son. We're talking about professional people here, earning mega-bucks from their employers, not somebody commenting on how their kid is doing in their under-16's Sunday league side. If twitter opinion doesn't matter, then I'm sure you're all for the players themselves taking to twitter, each time they feel aggrieved about how things are going at their club. These are highly paid individuals being handsomely rewarded by their clubs and in the main, the footballers themselves, their agents, families and friends all afford the clubs' they are employed by, the respect that they deserve.
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Post by tejstokie on Jan 25, 2020 2:48:06 GMT
Campbell signing is like a entirely new player coming in. Extremely excited about MON and his squad as it comes together. Campbell is the future!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 25, 2020 3:06:49 GMT
When's the last time Scholesy felt he could smile in public? When he sails past Westport Lake on his narrow boat waving to his fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 3:16:45 GMT
I'm not sure I follow this. Who are you referring to when you say 'legitimise it". You mean re-posting it on here? There is a easy solution to that one really. You are kind of assuming that we are somehow forced to read his Dad's Twitter account. No-one has to read it or re-post it, and if you don't read it in what way is it significant? I don't quite understand why people on here are obsessed with his Twitter account. No-one knows what any footballer's Dad is saying to his son day in, day out, positive or negative and there is no evidence that other player's Dad's are any less active in their son's careers. It's only because its on Twitter and people get involved in reading the stuff which is largely inconsequential in the scheme of things ( as has been proved today) The fact is, he has a right to comment about his son's career on Twitter or wherever else, millions of people comment about their family' activities everyday and its not uncommon for Dad's to be proud and protective when it comes to their sons. It's just an opinion at the end of the day, one of millions on social media that are the equivalent of tomorrow's fish and chip paper. I think the reaction to his Dad's Twitter comments are way over the top and are given far too much credence. Seriously? It's right here, on this very page, of this very thread. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/post/6716154/threadWe can't have it both ways. And no he doesn't have the right to publicly (and that's the important bit) undermine the club and it's management, when he doesn't feel things are working for him and his son. We're talking about professional people here, earning mega-bucks from their employers, not somebody commenting on how their kid is doing in their under-16's Sunday league side. If twitter opinion doesn't matter, then I'm sure you're all for the players themselves taking to twitter, each time they feel aggrieved about how things are going at their club. These are highly paid individuals being handsomely rewarded by their clubs and in the main, the footballers themselves, their agents, families and friends all afford the clubs' they are employed by, the respect that they deserve. Their families and friends should do what? Why? What an odd contract that would turn out to be. I’m sure that they have written statements in their contract about disclosure. I very much doubt that should include anything other than covering the players themselves or the release of any ‘inside information’. The fact that they are paid so much means nothing really, it’s still just a job.
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