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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 27, 2020 17:11:59 GMT
I think O'Neill has made reference to him being able to play there though, which might suggest it's in his thoughts? Why would he need to do that when BMI is clearly his first choice LB at present and we've got cover from Ward and Tymon.? Because one isn't a left back and the other two are toss?
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Post by StaffordPotter on Jan 27, 2020 17:42:16 GMT
Dave (Fenton) - Hi Martin, will we be buying some players this January? Martin - Hi Dave, there's a possibility that some might be leaving and some joining. Dave (Fenton) - Thanks Martin. I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 17:49:42 GMT
Dave (Fenton) - Hi Martin, will we be buying some players this January? Martin - Hi Dave, there's a possibility that some might be leaving and some joining. Dave (Fenton) - Thanks Martin. I actually laughed out loud when I read that. Try not to encourage me please, that really isn't the deepest depths of my 'humour'. There's a fair few levels to drop yet...
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 27, 2020 18:29:00 GMT
I don't think Thompson has played a game at left-back since he was in Man Utd's youth team, but you never know. Hard to see him selected ahead of Ward or Tymon though. Maybe the idea would be Thompson to move into midfield in place of Clucas and then Clucas to left back? Cant see the manager pulling a player on 7 goals from CM to play LB myself, highly unlikely isn't it?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 27, 2020 18:37:28 GMT
Fancy the chances that we will try to get justin in from leicester on loan in summer when wards contract expires, until then ward can cover us. Don't see the big need for a LB myself this season either, I agree with spinks in that it's the first time in ages we are not conceding goals
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Post by nigerianstokie on Jan 27, 2020 18:43:55 GMT
Maybe the idea would be Thompson to move into midfield in place of Clucas and then Clucas to left back? Cant see the manager pulling a player on 7 goals from CM to play LB myself, highly unlikely isn't it? I agree it is unlikely, but it is well known that Clucas can do it, has done recently enough and we have a ready made replacement in the middle. Stranger things have happened.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 27, 2020 18:46:19 GMT
I don't think Thompson has played a game at left-back since he was in Man Utd's youth team, but you never know. Hard to see him selected ahead of Ward or Tymon though. M’on seems content to pop clucas there in ‘need must’ situations.
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Post by 1948fitch on Jan 27, 2020 20:35:50 GMT
Maybe the idea would be Thompson to move into midfield in place of Clucas and then Clucas to left back? Cant see the manager pulling a player on 7 goals from CM to play LB myself, highly unlikely isn't it? Nath would
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Post by waffles on Jan 27, 2020 20:53:36 GMT
Cant see the manager pulling a player on 7 goals from CM to play LB myself, highly unlikely isn't it? Nath would And Pulis
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 6, 2020 11:52:04 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 6, 2020 12:39:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfers-qa-live-3791596Do we know how far down the line the BMI move was, which country he was heading to - and what, in the end, was the stumbling block? And, as a result, how far down the line the Brunt deal was before it had to be spiked? The left-back situation now appears even more of a mess. (Steve, Stoke)
Hi Steve, probably wisest to let Michael O’Neill answer that one when he stages his weekly press conference tomorrow.
What we can safely assume is that BMI wasn’t the happiest man in Stoke for 24 hours or so and, given the apparent upheaval, probably wasn’t in the right head space to play at Derby.
Hopefully, any fall outs have been resolved because he will be needed in that problem left-back position you mention.
Do you think there's a chance of a Chester debut on Saturday? Seems a bit of a shame Collins will probably see out the season in the stands now, even if Shawcross remains unavailable. He really needs games. The fans would probably go for a Collins-Chester duo, but that's obviously not going to happen any time soon (Mark, Fenton)
Don’t see him playing this Saturday, Mark, unless Batth or Lindsay go down ahead of the game.
Ok, it was 4-0 at Derby, but hopefully that was an aberration and that pair have surely build up enough stock in the previous half-dozen games to warrant at least one more chance together.
Chester’s fitness is surely an issue, too, after just two senior appearances this season.
As for Collins... yes, you can imagine his jaw hitting the floor when he first learned the club was in for Chester, but he has to play the long game at his age and be ready to go at the start of next season in terms of trying to nail down a regular place. He has to look at Batth and Shawcross and believe he can be the dominant centre half Michael O’Neill requires going forward.
Any news on the fitness of Campbell? (Sam, London)
Understand he’s making good progress Sam, but not sure if he will be fit enough to be in the matchday 18 this weekend.
The manager will be nervous about rushing him back as this is the first time he’s had to assess an injury to Campbell. The whispers were always four weeks minimum when he did the injury on January 20.
Is Oakley-Boothe likely to be in that undefined area between the u23s and the first team? And do you think he'll be behind Thompson in the midfield pecking order? Hard to see him getting games for a while - and even making the bench may be a stretch. But an interesting signing all the same. At nearly 20, he'll be looking for involvement very soon though. (Tom, Newcastle)
The exciting thing about that signing is that no-one really knows Tom.
Personally speaking, if we see anything sustained from him this season that has to be seen as a bonus.
More likely, he’s got to start showing himself in pre-season and heading into the next campaign.
Listening to and reading those who know him, there’s bags of potential there and you just hope Stoke City in the Championship is the right place at the right time for him. He’s not afraid of the big occasion in terms of tournaments with England, now it’s a question of adapting to playing in front of big crowds.
Do you think in hindsight it was a bit surprising Gregory wasn't allowed to go out on loan to save a lot of money on wages? His performance levels seem to have declined steeply, management seem to have little faith and he'll probably be off in the summer. Given that, wouldn't Vokes, Campbell, and maybe Diouf be sufficient to see the season out? (Chris, Penkhull)
Letting him go while Campbell is injured and Mame is winding down his Stoke career would have been a huge gamble in Stoke’s position Chris, surely?
The club was open to offers, but it would have been an interesting decision for Stoke had a permanent offer landed on the table in the final week of the window.
As for Gregory himself, he seems to be in that Cresswell/ Walters tradition of busting a gut and not always having the goals to show for it, and in his case it doesn’t look like he’ll get anything like the time those two got, probably because the manager doesn’t seem to fancy him wide.
Do you think there's a real chance he may go Verlinden over Ince? It seems unlikely based on his previous selections. McClean is going through bit of a dip of form too, though, so there's definitely a case for a shake-up out wide. (Tony, Stoke)
Ince has to be vulnerable this week, Tony, because the manager will want to freshen things slightly after Derby and it’s difficult to see where else he can do to do that.
Plus you’ve got Verlinden chomping at the bit in the wings and boosted by a decent performance in front of O’Neill for the under-23s on Monday night.
You have to say that Verlinden’s appearance will certainly add more to the volume of the home crowd than Ince right now. As for McClean, you’re right, ever since we started praising him he seems to have gone off the boil, but the manager does love him so dropping him would be an even bigger call than dropping Ince.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 12:41:28 GMT
So to summarise The Sentinel knows jack shit......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 13:08:54 GMT
So to summarise The Sentinel knows jack shit...... Where does Jack Shit play and when did we sign him ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2020 13:15:48 GMT
"As for Collins... yes, you can imagine his jaw hitting the floor when he first learned the club was in for Chester, but he has to play the long game at his age and be ready to go at the start of next season in terms of trying to nail down a regular place"
What a load of bollocks.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 6, 2020 14:01:47 GMT
"As for Gregory himself, he seems to be in that Cresswell/ Walters tradition of busting a gut and not always having the goals to show for it, and in his case it doesn’t look like he’ll get anything like the time those two got, probably because the manager doesn’t seem to fancy him wide."
The difference being, Cresser & SJW could hit a barn door at least half the time unlike Gregory.
Interesting to see what happens obviously, but all things being equal, I bet he doesn't get a fat lot of pitch time herein.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2020 14:03:25 GMT
"As for Gregory himself, he seems to be in that Cresswell/ Walters tradition of busting a gut and not always having the goals to show for it, and in his case it doesn’t look like he’ll get anything like the time those two got, probably because the manager doesn’t seem to fancy him wide." The difference being, Cresser & SJW could hit a barn door at least half the time unlike Gregory.
Interesting to see what happens obviously, but all things being equal, I bet he doesn't get a fat lot of pitch time herein.
SJW is our all time leading prem goalscorer, he was a good player
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 6, 2020 14:10:11 GMT
"As for Gregory himself, he seems to be in that Cresswell/ Walters tradition of busting a gut and not always having the goals to show for it, and in his case it doesn’t look like he’ll get anything like the time those two got, probably because the manager doesn’t seem to fancy him wide." The difference being, Cresser & SJW could hit a barn door at least half the time unlike Gregory.
Interesting to see what happens obviously, but all things being equal, I bet he doesn't get a fat lot of pitch time herein.
SJW is our all time leading prem goalscorer, he was a good player He was indeed. Please attach the prefix "very" for me fella.
But my point was more that the comparison is fine as far as running around a lot goes, but as a goal threat, forget it.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 6, 2020 14:23:08 GMT
SJW is our all time leading prem goalscorer, he was a good player He was indeed. Please attach the prefix "very" for me fella.
But my point was more that the comparison is fine as far as running around a lot goes, but as a goal threat, forget it.Agree, would love a prime Walters now in this league as our CF
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2020 15:28:45 GMT
43 goals in 226 games isn't good.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2020 15:33:58 GMT
It's fairly obvious why we couldn't let Gregory go. Campbell is injured and Vokes is shit.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 6, 2020 15:47:20 GMT
It's fairly obvious why we couldn't let Gregory go. Campbell is injured and Vokes is shit. So we'd replace either sith the shitter Gregory?
Cue bayernoatcake to say MBD is better than all of them
(That's the other thing Spinksy said which is nonsense about it being OK not to expect much from Diouf as he was winding his career down at Stoke? What? So it's OK to pay him a wedge to be demob happy & sit on his arris? )
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2020 15:48:16 GMT
It's fairly obvious why we couldn't let Gregory go. Campbell is injured and Vokes is shit. So we'd replace either sith the shitter Gregory?
Cue bayernoatcake to say MBD is better than all of them
(That's the other thing Spinksy said which is nonsense about it being OK not to expect much from Diouf as he was winding his career down at Stoke? What? So it's OK to pay him a wedge to be demob happy & sit on his arris? ) I'm not sure Gregory is shitter than Vokes. I don't think anyone is shitter than Vokes.
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Post by mattythestokie on Feb 6, 2020 15:51:28 GMT
43 goals in 226 games isn't good. What’s Dioufs goal to game ratio?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2020 16:09:28 GMT
43 goals in 226 games isn't good. What’s Dioufs goal to game ratio? 23 in 122 in the Premier League for us. A quarter of them at right back? So 1 in 5.3 plays Walters' 1 in 5.25.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2020 16:14:10 GMT
Fat Sam 1 in 5.66!
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 6, 2020 16:58:03 GMT
Walters did a hell of a lot more than score. He'd be great right now for Tyrese to play with.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2020 17:09:29 GMT
Walters did a hell of a lot more than score. He'd be great right now for Tyrese to play with. Walters was ok. But he was massively overused much to his detriment.
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2020 17:30:07 GMT
What’s Dioufs goal to game ratio? 23 in 122 in the Premier League for us. A quarter of them at right back? So 1 in 5.3 plays Walters' 1 in 5.25. Both played wide right a lot of course
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 6, 2020 18:33:40 GMT
This is a complete pointless pile of crap, nothing of note whatsoever, more info on here 🤣
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Post by rawli on Feb 7, 2020 0:22:41 GMT
So to summarise The Sentinel knows jack shit...... Where does Jack Shit play and when did we sign him ? In goals. Got him from Birmingham years ago.
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