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Post by thisisouryear on Jan 4, 2020 9:51:15 GMT
No, i don't trust international managers running football clubs. What about the fact he was a club manager before he was an 'international manager'? Oh wait I guess that doesn't fit your agenda. Sorry. I don't have an agenda, Southgate, Coleman have been very successful at international level but i wouldn't want either of them near our club. My choice would have been Nigel Pearson who would have been a safer option. Credit to MON he is getting results at the minute but we can't be expected to keep conceding 2 goals and winning games. If we start getting clean sheets i will be much more confident but for now we are still in big trouble. Given the position we are in it's a massive gamble giving the job to MON, it may well work out but 9 times out of 10 this type of move go's horribly wrong.
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 4, 2020 11:36:47 GMT
What about the fact he was a club manager before he was an 'international manager'? Oh wait I guess that doesn't fit your agenda. Sorry. I don't have an agenda, Southgate, Coleman have been very successful at international level but i wouldn't want either of them near our club. My choice would have been Nigel Pearson who would have been a safer option. Credit to MON he is getting results at the minute but we can't be expected to keep conceding 2 goals and winning games. If we start getting clean sheets i will be much more confident but for now we are still in big trouble. Given the position we are in it's a massive gamble giving the job to MON, it may well work out but 9 times out of 10 this type of move go's horribly wrong. That isn't really answering the question is it? MON was a club manager long before an international manager so what makes him an "international manager"?
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 4, 2020 11:42:27 GMT
Short of any major cock up I am 100% certain that we will stay up
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 4, 2020 11:49:01 GMT
50/50 for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 11:50:34 GMT
I'm about the same. I felt more confident until I saw the 7 point gap between us and Huddersfield before kick off on NYD. Need a real run of results just to pull clear from the bottom 3.
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Post by mickey2693 on Jan 4, 2020 12:20:06 GMT
What about the fact he was a club manager before he was an 'international manager'? Oh wait I guess that doesn't fit your agenda. Sorry. I don't have an agenda, Southgate, Coleman have been very successful at international level but i wouldn't want either of them near our club. My choice would have been Nigel Pearson who would have been a safer option. Credit to MON he is getting results at the minute but we can't be expected to keep conceding 2 goals and winning games. If we start getting clean sheets i will be much more confident but for now we are still in big trouble. Given the position we are in it's a massive gamble giving the job to MON, it may well work out but 9 times out of 10 this type of move go's horribly wrong. So you wouldn't have Marco Bielsa or Alex Ferguson then?
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Post by Billy the kid on Jan 4, 2020 12:42:06 GMT
I'm about the same. I felt more confident until I saw the 7 point gap between us and Huddersfield before kick off on NYD. Need a real run of results just to pull clear from the bottom 3. Just after they scored their second, I thought here we go, we just aint getting out of this, 10 points away is just not going to happen, and with Wigan and Barnsley both starting to pick up points its going to be a hard slog to keep our heads above water. Then we dug in and suddleny we are 4 points adrift and charlton and Brum are picking up far less points than us, and I can see we will be above those 2 before season end. Charlton, Brum and Luton for the drop for me with Barnsley staying up on the last day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 12:43:34 GMT
What about the fact he was a club manager before he was an 'international manager'? Oh wait I guess that doesn't fit your agenda. Sorry. I don't have an agenda, Southgate, Coleman have been very successful at international level but i wouldn't want either of them near our club. My choice would have been Nigel Pearson who would have been a safer option. Credit to MON he is getting results at the minute but we can't be expected to keep conceding 2 goals and winning games. If we start getting clean sheets i will be much more confident but for now we are still in big trouble. Given the position we are in it's a massive gamble giving the job to MON, it may well work out but 9 times out of 10 this type of move go's horribly wrong. Not really his fault re the clean sheets. The defence is looking much more tight since his arrival, but it still offers no communication unless Ryan is present. We’ve even kept two clean sheets since his arrival, which was then used to beat him around the head as the football required to do so with this confidence shot team was not the most exciting.
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Post by duckling on Jan 5, 2020 5:00:37 GMT
Yes. They've shown fighting spirit, and that is often the difference in a relegation battle. I just hope there are no injuries to our more productive players.
Birmingham are dropping like a stone. I think they'll be pulled into the relegation battle very soon and may well lose.
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Post by musik on Jan 5, 2020 9:53:13 GMT
I stick to my pre-season prediction: 12th.
The January window is important. What comes out of that and our Jan-Feb results in the League will reveal a lot.
In my dreams we can still chase the 17 points gap.
😁
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Post by lordb on Jan 5, 2020 10:17:38 GMT
I'm about the same. I felt more confident until I saw the 7 point gap between us and Huddersfield before kick off on NYD. Need a real run of results just to pull clear from the bottom 3. Fourth bottom is the aim, anything else is a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 10:23:16 GMT
Yes, erm, no, possibly, I’ve no idea,
Huddersfield performance, definitely stay up Brentford performance, we’ve gone.
I do know we looked far better with Verlinden, Campbell and N’Goy in the team though.
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Post by richardparker on Jan 5, 2020 10:26:25 GMT
Yes!
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Post by f1rew0rks on Jan 5, 2020 10:31:22 GMT
Im fairly sure we will be fine. But then I was also sure we would have stayed in the premier league the year we dropped. (shows what I know)!!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 5, 2020 10:48:50 GMT
Yes, get verlinden, n'goy, mclean & campbell playing the wide positions and we will be fine, more so I think we can start to look threatening. Everybody goes on about verlinden but I've been on about n'goy for a long time now. I think he could be the one to make an impact that people just were not expecting. He is fast, pacy a bit tricky and direct, wtf do we play ince for? Get rid.
Sack loaning other wide players from other clubs, use our own for the rest of the season and bed them into the team it will stand us in good stead for next season and cost less, spend what we do have on Defence & CM & maybe a striker.
It's the time for campbell, n'goy & verlinden to make their mark but they need games. They could be good long term options at the right age aswell. They need time to grow and find consistency. Sack developing players for others right off when have our own potential to grow
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 19:08:52 GMT
If we can sign a mark crossley , we can stay up
I think most would agree , butland has thrown away around 10 to 12 points in the first half of the season
If we let him do the same , on the back half of the season , then we are begging to be relegated
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 5, 2020 22:17:58 GMT
YES
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 5, 2020 22:24:13 GMT
10th to 12th with a positive GD by the end of the season
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 5, 2020 22:25:29 GMT
If we can sign a mark crossley , we can stay up I think most would agree , butland has thrown away around 10 to 12 points in the first half of the season If we let him do the same , on the back half of the season , then we are begging to be relegated Good (retro) shout, what wouldn't I give for a Crossley now? Lovely temperament as well as a top keeper.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 5, 2020 22:54:27 GMT
We’ve been ticking along at 1.5 points per game since the manager got here, so if he maintains that record over the next 20 games it’s another 30 points and mid table.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jan 5, 2020 23:12:28 GMT
Yes, by about 10 points.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Jan 6, 2020 0:50:44 GMT
Yes, no doubt in my mind.
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Post by Sfance on Jan 6, 2020 1:00:45 GMT
Barring unforeseen disaster, like injuries to keep players, yes, I think we will stay up comfortably, in 14th or 15th position.
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Post by jebbstuart on Jan 6, 2020 10:52:17 GMT
yes. should have more than enough if confidence and a minor tweak here and there can see us improve our position. hopefully can see the start of a building process for the team a long way to go but there has to be a first step.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 6, 2020 11:12:28 GMT
10th to 12th with a positive GD by the end of the season Good lord Sal... I’m fairly confident we can stay up but to get 10th/12th we’d need to land on around 65pts, which means averaging 2pts per game from now... I’m not sure we can put that kind of run together!
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Post by leicspotter on Jan 6, 2020 11:17:45 GMT
No...unless we sign some pace and athleticism
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 6, 2020 11:20:21 GMT
We’ve been ticking along at 1.5 points per game since the manager got here, so if he maintains that record over the next 20 games it’s another 30 points and mid table. Hopefully the emergence of fresh wide options supports this more
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 6, 2020 11:33:10 GMT
Yes, over the last 2 months we have stabilised and are beginning to fight and show more guts than the period between august and oneill coming in.
We are getting better and now have tasted the winning feeling.
Stoke are staying up Stoke are staying up
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Post by nickpowellgoals on Jan 7, 2020 16:28:19 GMT
Yes
If this 4-2-3-1 formation works then we can reach mid table (injuries dependant)
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Post by Northy on Jan 7, 2020 17:22:57 GMT
Yes, it's looking more positive.
Charlton are one to watch, dropping down the league quickly
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