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Post by swampmongrel on Jan 24, 2020 18:46:38 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 24, 2020 19:43:46 GMT
You can’t get away with much in South Africa, the broadcasters over there are ruthless. The live cameras didn’t pick up the altercation but they decided to show replays of it, uncensored.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 19:54:27 GMT
Still think 300 will end up being a match winning score if we can get to it or beyond.
South Africa’s batting is fragile to say the least.....
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 25, 2020 12:46:10 GMT
Well that was good fun! Nortje takes a 5-for for a poor SA. 400 All Out with Wood and Broad putting on an excellent 10th wicket stand. Have a really just seen Broad slap 43 from 28? Two 4s and four 6s!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 13:06:26 GMT
Broad and Wood smash a terrific 82-runs for 10th wkt in just 51 balls !
I've been out this morning and heard the BBC news at midday say we were 312-9, so I thought we'd get around 315-320ish, what a surprise when I saw we'd reached 400 !
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 25, 2020 15:36:35 GMT
South Africa are in utter disarray. 4 down already and have absolutely no chance of winning this test and it's not even the end of day 2 yet.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 25, 2020 15:50:48 GMT
Is it me or is Du Plessis nicking a living?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 25, 2020 16:33:46 GMT
Wood gets Nortje last ball of the day - SA 88/6. Absolute disarray.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 8:03:20 GMT
Day 3 under way - it's spot the crowd in the ground- there's hardly anybody there apart from the Barmy Army.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 8:04:25 GMT
Philander out already 93-7 - skied one to Broad
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 8:14:29 GMT
Philander out already 93-7 - skied one to Broad Nice to see Woakes doing well. If he stays fit he should be a mainstay in our test side over the next few years. He is an excellent batsman as well as a top class seam bowler.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 9:50:02 GMT
The fizz seems to have gone out of our pace attack. Never mind, that’s why we select a spinner. Oh.... Edit... perfect timing. Our seamers immediately picked up the final 3 wickets tout suite!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 26, 2020 10:29:16 GMT
Just watching this Cooky thing in the lunch break. His numbers are insane. You don't actually know you're watching a genuine great until they pack in do you.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 10:44:47 GMT
Just watching this Cooky thing in the lunch break. His numbers are insane. You don't actually know you're watching a genuine great until they pack in do you. I’m also watching that. One great thing about Sky cricket is they do ask difficult questions. In this case about Cook losing the ODI captaincy. Cook’s answer was (eventually!) wonderful. After a lengthy excuse-laden response he concluded “I thought I’d got over that, but my two minute rant clearly shows I haven’t”. Fair play to the man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 10:53:49 GMT
Just watching this Cooky thing in the lunch break. His numbers are insane. You don't actually know you're watching a genuine great until they pack in do you. I’m also watching that. One great thing about Sky cricket is they do ask difficult questions. In this case about Cook losing the ODI captaincy. Cook’s answer was (eventually!) wonderful. After a lengthy excuse-laden response he concluded “I thought I’d got over that, but my two minute rant clearly shows I haven’t”. Fair play to the man. I've just watched that too and Sky's coverage of the cricket is second to none. Give me a days test cricket involving England over a game of football any old day of the week these days.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 13:47:00 GMT
Thanks again for keeping us/ me informed and therefore enthused about the cricket. Credit to the posters on here....arguably the most sensible thread currently on the EE board( who am I to say?) One question....what is the latest rule on the follow on? Is it 200 still, used to be 150 hadn't it? Should SA have been asked to follow on or would have that been the wrong tactic? I think that I can see it from both ways?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 13:51:18 GMT
Thanks again for keeping us/ me informed and therefore enthused about the cricket. Credit to the posters on here....arguably the most sensible thread currently on the EE board( who am I to say?) One question....what is the latest rule on the follow on? Is it 200 still, used to be 150 hadn't it? Should SA have been asked to follow on or would have that been the wrong tactic? I think that I can see it from both ways? If you have a first innings lead of 200 or more you can enforce the follow on mate. The reason why we haven't this time is to give the bowlers a rest I should imagine, and then bat until we get a lead of at least 450 to take the game out of South Africas reach, then we should still have the best part of 5 sessions to bowl them out.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 14:06:53 GMT
Thanks again for keeping us/ me informed and therefore enthused about the cricket. Credit to the posters on here....arguably the most sensible thread currently on the EE board( who am I to say?) One question....what is the latest rule on the follow on? Is it 200 still, used to be 150 hadn't it? Should SA have been asked to follow on or would have that been the wrong tactic? I think that I can see it from both ways? If you have a first innings lead of 200 or more you can enforce the follow on mate. The reason why we haven't this time is to give the bowlers a rest I should imagine, and then bat until we get a lead of at least 450 to take the game out of South Africas reach, then we should still have the best part of 5 sessions to bowl them out. Thanks Vincent
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 17:24:28 GMT
If you have a first innings lead of 200 or more you can enforce the follow on mate. The reason why we haven't this time is to give the bowlers a rest I should imagine, and then bat until we get a lead of at least 450 to take the game out of South Africas reach, then we should still have the best part of 5 sessions to bowl them out. Thanks Vincent No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 17:30:18 GMT
No doubt that we are in an excellent position to win this test and the series.
But...
A part of me is disappointed that we will almost certainly (and quite correctly) not see Jos Buttler in whites for England again. Such a shame he couldn’t find a way to bring his white ball skills to test cricket. Foakes has to replace him for the next test series in Sri Lanka.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 17:32:03 GMT
No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine. You got the lead near enough spot on!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 17:42:46 GMT
No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine. I did think that was the case myself to a degree. I used to go to Great Chell cricket club a few times when I was younger and did actually get into the school team a couple of times.....not too bad a bowler but no 11 batsman and can recall getting out first ball on my debut. Not a clue at batting. On bowling I've never really got the " swinging in the air", the part played by the seam. , the effect of old ball / new ball in low level cricket...and I don't fully get how the pitch changes over the period of the game. Any enlightenment would be appreciated. ( At the first Derbyshire school thay I taught at I was very friendly with the PE teacher...kept on about the County side and leg breaks...is that a spin where the ball spins legside?)
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 17:43:17 GMT
No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine. You got the lead near enough spot on! What does that mean Partick?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 17:51:32 GMT
No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine. You got the lead near enough spot on! I did but I don't think we banked on getting there like we did. I should imagine a declaration was on their minds
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 18:04:59 GMT
You got the lead near enough spot on! What does that mean Partick? VV said we’d want a lead of 450. The actual lead was 460+. As he says though, we didn’t get there how we thought we would - we got bowled out rather than declaring, but we got there. Which is what matters.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 18:13:11 GMT
No problem mate, I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination but that's my take on it. The pitch is drying out as well so that would have had a bearing on the decision too I'd imagine. I did think that was the case myself to a degree. I used to go to Great Chell cricket club a few times when I was younger and did actually get into the school team a couple of times.....not too bad a bowler but no 11 batsman and can recall getting out first ball on my debut. Not a clue at batting. On bowling I've never really got the " swinging in the air", the part played by the seam. , the effect of old ball / new ball in low level cricket...and I don't fully get how the pitch changes over the period of the game. Any enlightenment would be appreciated. ( At the first Derbyshire school thay I taught at I was very friendly with the PE teacher...kept on about the County side and leg breaks...is that a spin where the ball spins legside?) An off spinner turns the ball from off to leg for a right hand batsman. A leg spinner stock ball goes in the opposite direction from leg to off. But, and this is a big but, he has another ball in his armoury called the googly which goes the opposite way from off to leg. That makes it very hard for a batsman who can’t tell the stock leg spin delivery from the googly. To make matters even harder for batsmen, the very best leggier have a 3rd type of delivery, the top spinner which goes straight but much quicker after it pitches. This is why good leggies cause so many problems. But it is very hard to bowl leg spin.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 18:22:08 GMT
I did think that was the case myself to a degree. I used to go to Great Chell cricket club a few times when I was younger and did actually get into the school team a couple of times.....not too bad a bowler but no 11 batsman and can recall getting out first ball on my debut. Not a clue at batting. On bowling I've never really got the " swinging in the air", the part played by the seam. , the effect of old ball / new ball in low level cricket...and I don't fully get how the pitch changes over the period of the game. Any enlightenment would be appreciated. ( At the first Derbyshire school thay I taught at I was very friendly with the PE teacher...kept on about the County side and leg breaks...is that a spin where the ball spins legside?) An off spinner turns the ball from off to leg for a right hand batsman. A leg spinner stock ball goes in the opposite direction from leg to off. But, and this is a big but, he has another ball in his armoury called the googly which goes the opposite way from off to leg. That makes it very hard for a batsman who can’t tell the stock leg spin delivery from the googly. To make matters even harder for batsmen, the very best leggier have a 3rd type of delivery, the top spinner which goes straight but much quicker after it pitches. This is why good leggies cause so many problems. But it is very hard to bowl leg spin. Any good diagrams Partick ? Is it right/ does the batsman try to predict what is going to happen by the bowler's approach and the grip of the ball?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 26, 2020 18:25:10 GMT
I did think that was the case myself to a degree. I used to go to Great Chell cricket club a few times when I was younger and did actually get into the school team a couple of times.....not too bad a bowler but no 11 batsman and can recall getting out first ball on my debut. Not a clue at batting. On bowling I've never really got the " swinging in the air", the part played by the seam. , the effect of old ball / new ball in low level cricket...and I don't fully get how the pitch changes over the period of the game. Any enlightenment would be appreciated. ( At the first Derbyshire school thay I taught at I was very friendly with the PE teacher...kept on about the County side and leg breaks...is that a spin where the ball spins legside?) An off spinner turns the ball from off to leg for a right hand batsman. A leg spinner stock ball goes in the opposite direction from leg to off. But, and this is a big but, he has another ball in his armoury called the googly which goes the opposite way from off to leg. That makes it very hard for a batsman who can’t tell the stock leg spin delivery from the googly. To make matters even harder for batsmen, the very best leggier have a 3rd type of delivery, the top spinner which goes straight but much quicker after it pitches. This is why good leggies cause so many problems. But it is very hard to bowl leg spin. I still find it a bit difficult to follow...I'm just trying to picture where the bowler would try to pitch the ball for each of your scenarios
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 26, 2020 19:08:40 GMT
An off spinner turns the ball from off to leg for a right hand batsman. A leg spinner stock ball goes in the opposite direction from leg to off. But, and this is a big but, he has another ball in his armoury called the googly which goes the opposite way from off to leg. That makes it very hard for a batsman who can’t tell the stock leg spin delivery from the googly. To make matters even harder for batsmen, the very best leggier have a 3rd type of delivery, the top spinner which goes straight but much quicker after it pitches. This is why good leggies cause so many problems. But it is very hard to bowl leg spin. I still find it a bit difficult to follow...I'm just trying to picture where the bowler would try to pitch the ball for each of your scenarios Try this...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 9:54:39 GMT
Sloppy start from England, why the hell is Root bowling himself? Currently gone for 22 runs off 2 overs.......
EDIT Elgar gone C&b Stokes. Now get Joe off and a proper bowler on.....
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