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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 9:41:23 GMT
Looks like normal service has resumed.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 29, 2019 11:09:49 GMT
Ticking along nicely but new ball to come.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2019 12:18:13 GMT
Ticking along nicely but new ball to come. The clock ticking down now... 6 wickets down. More bad shots from our batsmen - the latest being Root playing an unnecessary shot at a wide ball. We are in “needing a miracle” territory now.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 29, 2019 12:22:30 GMT
We’ve at least made a fight of it but the same recurring themes letting us down time and time again.
Burns, Denly, Root and Stokes all getting in but not going on to make a big score.
The less said about Bairstow the better.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2019 12:31:54 GMT
We’ve at least made a fight of it but the same recurring themes letting us down time and time again. Burns, Denly, Root and Stokes all getting in but not going on to make a big score. The less said about Bairstow the better. Bairstow should not have been selected. Crawley was the next man in line once Pope was left out, but the old pals act that dominates England selection determined Bairstow came in. Anyway, hit and hope Curran is now out. The end is nigh. Still, we might get to see Buttler have a go which will be entertaining.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 29, 2019 12:36:00 GMT
We’ve at least made a fight of it but the same recurring themes letting us down time and time again. Burns, Denly, Root and Stokes all getting in but not going on to make a big score. The less said about Bairstow the better. Bairstow should not have been selected. Crawley was the next man in line once Pope was left out, but the old pals act that dominates England selection determined Bairstow came in. Anyway, hit and hope Curran is now out. The end is nigh. Still, we might get to see Buttler have a go which will be entertaining. Bairstow is there as the back up keeper. The only player he should have replaced is Buttler if he was ill/injured. His selection sums up a lot of what is wrong with this England side off the field. I’d still have a glimmer of hope if we had Leach to come and bat but unfortunately we’ve got three number elevens to bat with Buttler.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 29, 2019 12:44:35 GMT
That's all she wrote.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 12:50:39 GMT
Thank you Mr. Root for putting S. Africa in to bat after winning the toss.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 29, 2019 12:52:21 GMT
Well, our woes oversees continue. This is the probably the poorest South African side I can remember and they’ve beaten us comfortably despite being pretty ordinary themselves.
Once again it was our batting in the first innings that has cost us the match, although I though we bowled poorly on the whole.
Pope obviously comes in for Bairstow for the next test and there could be a couple of changes to the bowling too. If Wood is fit I’d be very tempted to play him. You’d think we’ll almost certainly play a spinner so it will be interesting to see who misses out.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 29, 2019 13:10:15 GMT
From start to finish England fucked that test up big time.
Poor selection
Poor captaincy
Poor bowling
Poor batting
Big shout out to South Africa though - got their selection right, their captain was excellent, their bowling superb, their batting... well, it was ok but nothing special.
Where do England go from here?
Well, start with selection....
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 29, 2019 14:01:55 GMT
Think it's about time Root was fooked off as captain. No idea who you bring in, maybe Stokes?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 18:29:02 GMT
Think it's about time Root was fooked off as captain. No idea who you bring in, maybe Stokes? I think Stokes has too much on his plate with been the all rounder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 18:32:17 GMT
Same old, same old yet again !
A new captain is needed as I don't think Root is up to the job.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 30, 2019 16:30:39 GMT
Think it's about time Root was fooked off as captain. No idea who you bring in, maybe Stokes? I think Stokes has too much on his plate with been the all rounder. Yeah, but you just know that's who they'd pick. I can't for the life of me think who'd replace root, someone has to though, he's a poor captain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 19:06:12 GMT
Selection for the next test should be interesting, Sibley gone down ill now and Pope, Woakes and Leach are still laid low.
For me we need to play a spinner so it will have to be Bess who can bat as well:
Sibley (Crawley if not fit) Burns Denly Root Stokes Pope (Bairstow if not fit) Buttler Bess Archer Broad Anderson
Still don't like the overall balance of that bowling attack but we have no other real options.....
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Post by AlliG on Dec 30, 2019 20:41:55 GMT
I think Stokes has too much on his plate with been the all rounder. Yeah, but you just know that's who they'd pick. I can't for the life of me think who'd replace root, someone has to though, he's a poor captain. If Stokes is going to play as a batsman who occasionally bowls as seems to be the case for this tour, then it would be less of a problem. The main problem is that none of the senior players have played any significant county cricket for years and therefore none of them have any real experience of captaincy or the opportunity to either play under a great captain or to find out their own captaincy style by trial and error. Unless someone shows an immediate flair for the role then we are going to be stuck with someone who does captaincy by numbers or by committee, both of which are fine if the team are significantly better than the opposition but which fall short if the teams are fairly equally matched or something "extra" is required against a better team. Assuming that as expected we go for the status quo it would be a start if someone reminded Root that overseas if you win the toss you bat first and if you aren't sure, you keep thinking until you are sure and then bat first (unless the surface is so green or the cloud cover so complete that you can almost guarantee bowling the opposition out for under 150 and even then he should think long and hard before making a decision.) I hope they have all been dosing up on the Immodium since Sunday.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 31, 2019 6:29:17 GMT
Selection for the next test should be interesting, Sibley gone down ill now and Pope, Woakes and Leach are still laid low. For me we need to play a spinner so it will have to be Bess who can bat as well: Sibley (Crawley if not fit) Burns Denly Root Stokes Pope (Bairstow if not fit) Buttler Bess Archer Broad Anderson Still don't like the overall balance of that bowling attack but we have no other real options..... I think that looks right. We have to play a spinner. It’s a shame for Curran, but he ain’t one of our top 3 quicks and he ain’t the best all rounder. I’m not actually sure he is an all rounder because his batting isn’t good enough to bat higher than 8.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 14:22:51 GMT
Advice to any England fan going to the test tomorrow, bring your bat and pads you might get a game.....
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 2, 2020 19:36:31 GMT
Burns now ruled out for the rest of the series due to ligament damage. It seems this tour is cursed.
A chance for Crawley to make a name for himself.
With Archer already a doubt and Wood unavailable, South Africa won’t have a better chance of going 2-0 up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 22:08:03 GMT
It's turning into a bit of a fiasco isn't it !
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2020 9:03:32 GMT
2nd test underway.
3 changes for England, Crawley for Burns, Pope for Bairstow and Bess for Archer.
Root win the toss and decided to bat.
Well, two of the errors from the last test have been addressed - a balanced bowling attack and the right decision on the toss.
Whether our three other issues are similarly sorted, namely our batting, our bowling and Root’s captaincy, remains to be seen.
One thing though - Curran now has the opportunity to show he has what it takes to be a front line pace bowler instead of being a 4th seamer. Let’s hope he takes it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 9:17:26 GMT
Crawley gone for 4 - New Year, same old problems !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 9:19:43 GMT
England have confirmed football will not be played in practice or warm-ups for "the foreseeable future" after the injury to Burns.
Why not just stop it altogether ?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2020 10:06:21 GMT
How many players have we lost over the years through playing nogger before a game of Cricket?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 10:52:33 GMT
67-2 at lunch. Honours even I guess.
Need a big partnership from these two now whilst batting conditions are good.....
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Post by thequietman on Jan 3, 2020 12:47:00 GMT
Hmm. Our first innings so far has all been rather same-old-same-old. Once again we need an anchor innings from Stokes to get us out of a pickle. I do like Pope, hope he can stick around for a good while.
As for the last test (which I've not commented on) - unlike most, I don't disagree with Root's decision to field first. The wicket was green in places and the ball moved almost throughout the first innings. However, Broad & Anderson failed to bowl the right line/length in their first spell. A persistent, nagging 4th stump length/full delivery could have seen the Saffers in real trouble before lunch on day 1. Hey ho, all too late now.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 3, 2020 13:08:24 GMT
When this Test cricket table comes out, England will be near the Botton of it.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 3, 2020 14:22:03 GMT
Looks like a lovely day for batting.
Shame we are so fucking useless with the bat.
185-5
The top 5 all out - 4 had starts. None, sadly, were able to convert a start into anything of substance.
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Post by AlliG on Jan 3, 2020 15:14:17 GMT
England really are doing their best to screw up my retirement.
Watching a tour of South Africa should be the perfect way to spend a few winter weeks in my armchair in front of the TV enjoying the cricket.
I was just about to type that I hope Bess can surprise us all with his batting but unfortunately he didn't last long enough for me to complete the sentence.
Geoffrey's mother-in-law would have more success with her stick of rhubarb than this England team.
Oh well at this rate I guess I am going to have to find something else to watch on Days 4 & 5
We win the toss, bat first and Stuart Broad is facing the second new ball. I bet he is chuffed with the batsmen!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 15:14:54 GMT
Looks like a lovely day for batting. Shame we are so fucking useless with the bat. 185-5 The top 5 all out - 4 had starts. None, sadly, were able to convert a start into anything of substance. We’re just not a very good test team are we? 231-8 after winning the toss on a flat wicket. Poor Pope has played beautifully and is about to run out of partners. Pathetic effort from the rest.....
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